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Root Double - Before Crime * After Days KS ($135k goal/Steam&Vita/Zero Escape-like)
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Libra vampire has just been funded with similar funding goal... if it's not much popular than root double(don't know) and has achieved it, it's clear where the problem is.
One third of the campaign has passed and it's been one third towards the goal. If the first ten days barely raised one third of the base goal, they'll have to raise a lot of money towards the last ten days, since the ten days during the middle of the campaign will keep doing worse and worse.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/931349-ever17-out-of-infinity/73023062?page=8 GameFAQs thread is just as worried.
There's actually a number of Lemnisca members who post there.I also think that if it doesn't make it,I'd like that the kickstarter is relaunched but with some things changed in order to make people back for the project, what I don't get either is that the people who post here or in gamefaqs seem to be more interested in the game being funded. Another update showing the new tiers(that were already announced)
No, please, no more Kickstarters. It'd be the second failed Kickstarter from Sekai Project.
grim-tales
Member
I dont get why they cant just put it on Steam but charge x amount for it, and pay the translators that way, since everything's already done.
meltingparappa
Member
I'm all but guaranteed not to play it on PC, but I'm backing it out of the fear that if it doesn't get a translation now, it'll never get one.
grim-tales
Member
I agree with you here.
Vanethyr
Member
New items added to existing tiers and a new tier created!
As nice as some of those rewards look, part of me is doubtful over how much it'll actually help :/
As nice as some of those rewards look, part of me is doubtful over how much it'll actually help :/
Funyarinpa
Member
They won't, FFS. All the 300-500$ range potential backers want rewards that go for $1K+ in this campaign. Unless they fill up $300-$750 with some real good tiers, this campaign is dead.
Better kick my Japanese studies into high gear. ;(
Vanethyr
Member
Uh-huh :\ this and a couple of other things lately have made me go back to it after several years.
I don't want to see a world where I can't have the english physical version of this game, when I decided to back it few hours since it started I wanted it to be a huge success(achieving stretch goals and so) but it's almost impossible right now and wished that they added vita version later on the campaign. However the lack of news(the only important update was the tiers one but didn't solve high tiers) and other things are making it very difficult and I don't want to miss the oportunity of having the game,so if things go wrong I hope they try to do everything they can as with Narcissu's kickstarter.
Funyarinpa
Member
Something just doesn't add up.
Say the KS fails. Sekai still has to pay Lemnisca, right?
If Sekai can do that, why the KS?
If they did the KS despite being able to play, can we still get RD even if the KS fails?
If they can't pay without the KS, why did Lemnisca agree to release with them?
Say the KS fails. Sekai still has to pay Lemnisca, right?
If Sekai can do that, why the KS?
If they did the KS despite being able to play, can we still get RD even if the KS fails?
If they can't pay without the KS, why did Lemnisca agree to release with them?
We can think about that, but all that are just assumptions or speculations,the easy way is that it gets funded so we don't care if it would have been released or whatever, but reviewing the libra vampire tiers.... there are so many differences that it makes a difference. Alothough I believe that you should back the game that interests you more it's clear that the rewards have become more and more important in the funding process.
grim-tales
Member
I really want to play the game in English too
That's something I've always asked on the VN topic, that Sekai Project would have to move forward regardless of the Kickstarter failing with these projects that are already moving forward. Same happened with Narcissu, the project was already well on its way before the Kickstarter started.
Basileus777
Member
You're making assumptions here. We don't know that Lemnisca would still get paid, or that Sekai could still afford to pay for the licensing and porting.
Funyarinpa
Member
I mean, Lemnisca has to be working under some kind of contract, right? They have to have done TL work by this point, so doesn't it only follow that Sekai needs to pay Lemnisca money for the TL work done so far?
Same goes for Regista, will they have done the porting and licensing work so far in vain and for no pay when (if) the KS campaign fails?
Then again, there's probably some sort of clause in their contract that covers the case of the KS campaign failing- it's just that no such clause makes sense to me under these circumstances?
Please specify what illogical assumptions I'm making because I'm having a hard time finding unfounded assumptions in my reasoning.
Uh, the assumption that the game production/localization is already underway?
The KS money is for the budget to pay Regista/Lemnisca... if it fails they don't get paid and no work is done.
Basileus777
Member
The work is underway because it's supposed to release in March and Lemnisca started translating this a long time ago when it was still a fan project.
Yeah, funding has remained stable so there's still some hope that if they can get something to cause a spike this may have a chance of getting funded.
Neither of which are requirements that the project has to continue if the KS fails.
Projected release in March if the KS meets its goals. Lemnisca working on it as a fan project means nothing for their time and work as a paid professional project if it's not approved.
Basileus777
Member
Well I agree there and basically said as much earlier in the thread.
Funyarinpa
Member
IIRC, it was at Anime Expo that this was announced so it is certain that they have done work under Sekai. I really doubt they'd go unpaid, and I am sure that they haven't received any payment beyond the sum asked for by the campaign (which is for paying off the translators, and I don't think any money would be given beforehand at all).
Basileus777
Member
I think they'll just relaunch with another Kickstarter with a goal they know they will hit.
grim-tales
Member
I dont know if its me but I don't feel as if the music used in the opening trailer for the game fits the tone at all. Can you imagine if say, 999 had launched with a fast bouncy J-pop kind of song in its trailer?
Chairmanchuck
Member
To me the rewards are not satisfying enough. With Clannad I backed 60$ for the physical and get the Arrange Album and the fanbook.
For Muvluv I first backed 150$ and get the Muvluv Trilogy in a signed box, an artbook, the Sumika Figurine, the OST, the game in physical and digital form, a Vita copy and Photon.
Here I get the game digital/physical, the OST and a poster for 150$. I dont know. This KS doesnt offer exciting rewards for "low end" backers.
For Muvluv I first backed 150$ and get the Muvluv Trilogy in a signed box, an artbook, the Sumika Figurine, the OST, the game in physical and digital form, a Vita copy and Photon.
Here I get the game digital/physical, the OST and a poster for 150$. I dont know. This KS doesnt offer exciting rewards for "low end" backers.
TonkatsuAddict
Member
Is it just me, or do the tiers feel very...boring? And I'm not talking about the content, I'm talking about the actual descriptive text. I appreciate the clarity, that's certainly been a problem with other kickstarters, but having the tier text just be "Digital Game + Digital OST" or whatever feels very...low effort? Generic? Maybe it's not that big a deal, but I feel like it loses some personality or appeal or something like that. Without the personal touch of custom written descriptions of every tier, it almost feels like they don't actually care about this particular Kickstarter that much.Does anyone else get that same feeling?
To be fair, the figurine was a pretty high-end stretch goal, but even taking that out of the equation, you're right, it still isn't as good a bang for your buck. But SP's kickstarters have always kind of felt that way to me. This is actually the first SP kickstarter that I recall where physical copies include a digital copy by default, which was always an annoyance of mine.
To be fair, the figurine was a pretty high-end stretch goal, but even taking that out of the equation, you're right, it still isn't as good a bang for your buck. But SP's kickstarters have always kind of felt that way to me. This is actually the first SP kickstarter that I recall where physical copies include a digital copy by default, which was always an annoyance of mine.
150 gets you Digital/Physical game and Digital/Physical OST, Poster, Stainless Steel Mug with Root Double artwork and a Tshirt.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Yeah, it feels like they wrote in what each tier would contain, and then just forgot to actually put any writing for them. It feels lazy, and winds up looking really odd.
I think it's just the opening song (and possibly another one for the ending), pretty similar to the other games Takumi Nakazawa directed before. Just check out those opening songs from the Infinity trilogy on PSP: remember11 never7 ever17
grim-tales
Member
I see what you mean.
I really like the Remember 11 tune actually. That was the first time I'd seen/played the game
I really like the Remember 11 tune actually. That was the first time I'd seen/played the game
Chairmanchuck
Member
Oh. Havent seen the update. Sorry for that.
Root Double KS Update #10: Root Double- Before Crime * After Days- Xtend Edition √After Trailer
New trailer, and some more important info:
New trailer, and some more important info:
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Mockingbird
Member
15 days left... BACK THIS DAMMIT!
Vanethyr
Member
Update #11: Root Double- Before Crime * After Days- Xtend Edition √Before Trailer
I really hope we get some news about Vita support, it might be the bump this project needs.
I really hope we get some news about Vita support, it might be the bump this project needs.
Vanethyr
Member
Yeah, it is a little late :\ rather that than never, I guess. God knows why I'm remaining hopeful, it's likely to just end in disappointment at this rate.
It's not much, but if there was a Vita tier I'd probably put the money I've been setting aside for a new phone towards a higher pledge.
It's not much, but if there was a Vita tier I'd probably put the money I've been setting aside for a new phone towards a higher pledge.
grim-tales
Member
The Senses System sounds an interesting idea.
It would be a damn shame if the base goal is not met. Even Uchikoshi has tweeted about it:
https://twitter.com/Uchikoshi_Eng
Kotaro Uchikoshi Eng ‏@Uchikoshi_Eng 1h1 hour ago
Hi, everyone! Do you know the visual novel game titled "Root Double"?
It's so really awesome game that my best friend @nakazawatakumi and his team created. Now Takumi's team require your support to localize it.
57 retweets 37 likes
It would be a damn shame if the base goal is not met. Even Uchikoshi has tweeted about it:
https://twitter.com/Uchikoshi_Eng
Kotaro Uchikoshi Eng ‏@Uchikoshi_Eng 1h1 hour ago
Hi, everyone! Do you know the visual novel game titled "Root Double"?
It's so really awesome game that my best friend @nakazawatakumi and his team created. Now Takumi's team require your support to localize it.
57 retweets 37 likes
Really? I thought they didn't get along well.
grim-tales
Member
I never knew that