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IHS: Nintendo portable NX console to launch this year
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No it's not, the author commented that the analyst had sources in companies.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I'm more bothered by the fact that gamers have redefined gimmick to be a negative term.
Hey guys, sometimes "gimmicks" turn out to be something worthwhile, and dual screens were one of them.
I hope that it has 3D, but I don't really see much market interest in the feature. It's a shame because the N3DS nailed the implementation with the head tracking.
I'm sure that the NX handheld will have dual screen and the NX home controller will also have a screen. Without one Mario Maker would not be possible (and they would never make you buy the handheld NX just to use as a controller).
In theory they could use one big screen like they are already doing it on the 2DS. (The 2DS just overlays a plastic frame to give the illusion of two screens.) The result would look like this:
But I do not think that this is likely at all.
That would be fine but you would lose the clamshell which is a crucial feature IMO.
sixteen-bit
Member
excited to see what NX is all about
wild wild rice
Member
People will call any new idea a gimmick. Completely misused word.
Mario Maker is possible on a single touch screen unit, no real issues. I don't see the NX handheld having two screens, no way (edit: ok I slightly misread your post thinking you meant the handheld needed two screens for MM)
The Real Napsta
Member
That would be amazing.
They could combine that design with the soft cover posted on the last page. However, that would require them to embed the controls deeper into the frame. It might work, though. The resulting device would look more like a tablet and be a bit less portable as a result.
I hope one day they will show us some of the prototypes like they did with the Wii remote. I bet they've been through every configuration imaginable.
Glass Rebel
Member
Really hoping they drop backwards compatibility and the second screen to ensure seamless compatibility between the handheld and the home console versions of the NX. 3D I could see surviving but I'd rather drop that as well to keep costs down or invest into more powerful hardware or, even more importantly, a better battery.
It's not that complicated to understand. Screen manufacturers who told analyst that they expect an increase in production due to Nintendo launching a new hardware with screens this year. The only speculation is that the hardware is a handheld. The rest is a reliable information.
Also, analysts are mostly a serious thing, despite clowns like Pachter.
After nearly 12 years of searching for a vital purpose for a second screen it's time the supporters let go of that white whale.
yeah I hope they don't ditch the 3D. could be really awesome with a higher powered system and a better resolution screen. it's already a great feature on the 3DS and they seemed to have perfected it with the New 3DS.
you'd have to have had your head in the sand for over a decade to claim there isn't a vital purpose for the second screen
On the 3DS with its lower res screens the 2nd screen actually feels pretty vital. Certainly for games like MonHun with lots of UI elements and menus. In general "just" putting a map or UI on the 2nd screen is not "just", it's a pretty solid addition. I'll let that go with a hi res, larger screen, but I wanted to point out its nice use.
One GAF insider mentioned that Nintendo's next handheld would have a resolution that's "higher than you'd expect, lower than you'd hope". This has led us to believe that the NX Handheld will have a native resolution of 540p (makes sense, since it scales up to 1080p easier).
User 479360
Banned
Not sure of what to think about the handheld factor, but I'll reserve judgement for when I see it. I didn't like the Wii and the Wii U didn't do a lot for me. It had some good, beautiful games, but I don't want to control games with a tablet or motion.
Feel bad for the people who just bought a N3DS or XL. Nintendo likes to do this with its hardware, though.
Feel bad for the people who just bought a N3DS or XL. Nintendo likes to do this with its hardware, though.
TDLink
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Honestly even if all a game does with that second screen is move menus and UI down there, I consider that a big benefit and improvement to having it clutter the main gameplay screen. And some games go much further than that and do in fact do some interesting things with it.
making pause menus irrelevant is such an understated benefit
Toadthemushroom
Member
You don't necessarily a second screen for that anymore though -- I'd say the worthiness of the second screen fell by quite a bit ever since 3DS stopped receiving "touch-first" games, and made the top screen the primary gameplay screen.
That said, I do like the second screen, but it just isn't as important as it once was, especially as Nintendo's handhelds aren't market leaders in the grand scheme of things, leading to less games built around the dual screen setup.
Bigger screens also reduces the worthiness of the dual-screen set-up, since elements and touch gestures/buttons designed for twin 3" screens have been blown up in size.
The free form display would incorporate the best benefits of a second screen from 3DS and do them better, particularly hot buttons and shortcuts, which may have haptic feedback and be literally at your fingertips.
Glass Rebel
Member
I've owned multiple DS and 3DS systems over the years and I can't think of a single thing I'd consider "vital". Convenient and nice, absolutely but every other platform manages with just one screen.
Silent Chief
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They make money on sales.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Even though the Wii U OS is pretty fast now, people still wish it was instantaneous like other devices.
I see this as a similar thing.
Pausing for menus isn't time consuming but every second counts as far as overall convenience and enjoyment.
I'll be fine if it's one screen but I have a feeling it's a "don't know what you got til it's gone" thing that will make people appreciate the second screen even if it was underwhelming a lot of the time.
Toadthemushroom
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Yup. In particular I appreciate it for bringing HUDs that actually feel designed for handheld. Vita HUDs are often shrunken down 1:1 from console games and look comically tiny or unreadable.
Silent Chief
Member
Don't you mean a Vita purpose?
Graphics Horse
Member
yup.
Curious if AMD has its fingers in the handheld pie as they seem certain they have a new system to provide for this year also.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Ugh, none of this speculation or rumour stuff does anything for me, I just want the official info from Nintendo already!
In theory they could use one big screen like they are already doing it on the 2DS. (The 2DS just overlays a plastic frame to give the illusion of two screens.) The result would look like this:
But I do not think that this is likely at all.
By the way, one benefit of this hypothetical design would be the ability to run ported Wii U games.
Graphics Horse
Member
The gamepad mainly does fine on its own.
outunderthestars
Banned
Would love to see one high resolution screen, no 3D, no stylus, and ship it this year. Thanks!
Nintendo at E3
"NX is a Nintendo branded Vita"
*Nintendos stock crashes and burns*
Curious to see if Nintendo fucks up their naming scheme and marketing and people think such machines are just a Wii U redesign. Which by itself is just a wii acessory for soccer moms.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
If getting this enabled BC for the console then I'm closer to being in and than out you little bastards.
Finally got a vita last night and after 20 seconds with the thing I realized that the NX handheld should just have ALL touchscreen(s). Being able to use either touch screen OR buttons to input my wifi info and do all the setup/menu selection was fantastic. I know the 3DS does most of the input on the bottom screen, but it's tiny and imprecise with fingers. I want a touch screen like on the vita or smartphones where the whole ui is designed around being able to touch it.
That said, I don't like the vita joystick positions. I think below buttons works better on a controller than a handheld for some reason - so if we can get nintendo buttons/circle pads and a vita touch screen, then i'm good.
That said, I don't like the vita joystick positions. I think below buttons works better on a controller than a handheld for some reason - so if we can get nintendo buttons/circle pads and a vita touch screen, then i'm good.
Resident evil revelations and wind waker hd are the second screen experiences that impressed me the most. Recently I was convinced by splatoon and xenoblade and the latter could have done even more.
Overall, I'm more interested to seamless menu gestion than making the core gameplay centered around two screens.
It's so good to have elaborate menu management works fluidly with controlling your character.
I would miss it.
Overall, I'm more interested to seamless menu gestion than making the core gameplay centered around two screens.
It's so good to have elaborate menu management works fluidly with controlling your character.
I would miss it.
Fourth Storm
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I'm fairly certain at this point that they are going to use Sharp's Free Form displays from the recent patent which was uncovered. As the patent also mentions a controller version which lacks a screen, but uses a touch pad for similar input capabilities, this is what I'm going w/ for the NX console as well.
Stairouais
Member
I can't imagine how shitty it must have been before the big update that sped the Os up.
Because I still find it excruciatingly slow right now.
Cymbal Head
Banned
All I want is a handheld that plays all of Nintendo's mainline franchise releases. No matter what else NX is, please let me have that.
Makes sense, but I don't recall there being mention of a touch-pad for the console's controller in the patent. Maybe I missed it in my last read-through.
You may get your wish, since the guys who make the 3DS cartridges are involved with the NX Platform. This may indicate that the popular theory of a shared software library could happen.
everything except going to the system settings has been sped up considerably. november 2012 was a rough time for the Wii U's OS lol