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Has Activision shot themselves in the foot with the MW Remastered paywall?
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Hidden One
Member
Honestly I don't really care about IW. I just want that CoD 4 remastered. I'll wait to see if they'll release it separately before making my decision but as of now its BF1 all the way.
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Member
I'm interested in the remaster and have no desire for the other game that comes packed in with it... (or was it the other way around?).
I'll buy it when it is below 30 bucks, I can wait years!
I'll buy it when it is below 30 bucks, I can wait years!
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Yeah but these situations aren't really comparable. COD as a whole is pretty stale by now and doesn't have the same appeal it did back then to a lot of people. MW2 was the sequel everybody was going nuts for at the time. They've released tons of shitty uninspired sequels since then.
RedAssedApe
Banned
eh...i dunno about that. if people prefer the cod style tdm gameplay to battlefield objective gameplay...i don't see people ditching cod for battlefield beyond playing through the campaign. i mean if none of the previous battlefield games convinced you to switch why would this one (assuming the bf gameplay isn't going to be drastically different)?
Sword Of Doom
Member
They obviously want to sell the newest COD. If they release MW4 as a standalone game then they will be hurting their own annual franchise.
kingwingin
Member
One $80 price
GlenChivas
Member
If it turns out that the MW Remaster is just a code in a box, similar to what they did with MW2 and CoD Classic, then eBay is going to be flooded with copies of Infinite Warfare. Hopefully it'll be just as flooded with codes for the Remaster.
Callibretto
Member
so I saw the infinite warfare trailer and the amount of dislike is huge and I'm not sure why, it's not like the sci-fi call of duty is new, suddenly this going to space element is what make people dislike CoD? the trailer is just okay with me, it looks really bad now in comparison to Battlefield 1 visual, but I didn't find the visual ugly or anything.
or, is the dislike more because what OP mention that they put Modern Warfare behind the legacy edition with no stand alone release?
or, is the dislike more because what OP mention that they put Modern Warfare behind the legacy edition with no stand alone release?
And that's the reason for a large amount of the negative feedback.
hemo memo
Gold Member
No. The point of this is to get people to play the new CoD so for the long run this is a better idea and more options is worse.
Callibretto
Member
I don't think giving more of the same is going to lead to that massive amount of dislike.
No, they made a very smart financial move by pairing MW Remastered with this game. Just look at the dislikes on the youtube video - most COD fans don't want the franchise to continue in the direction that Infinite Warfare is going. Most don't want jet packs, they don't want space battles. They want something that resembles actual modern combat. I think this game would be the first COD flop. It would still sell, but I think it would be quite a bit less than any other title since MW1.
But you pair it with this remaster and tons of people will buy it just for that. Most long time COD fans love MW1 and won't have the willpower to wait until the game is sold by itself in order to play. And plenty of people who never experienced will get sucked into the hype of everyone talking about it and they'll buy it to give it a shot. The pairing guarantees the game will sell great regardless of how people feel about Infinite Warfare.
Oh, and Activision will just rake in even more cash when they do sell the remaster separately.
I also think there's a very high chance Activision will lock a MW1 map in each of Infinite Warfare's map packs in order to get people to buy those DLCs. That's probably why we're only getting ten maps. They know exactly what they're doing.
And I don't know if anyone has mentioned it already but another reason why this move makes sense for Activision is because there's really no other time they can release MW Remastered. They'd have to not create a new game in the series and just release a MW Collection instead one year... that was never likely. They can't release it early in the next year because it would kill the new game's MP player count and people wouldn't buy the map packs. If they release it later in the summer, people might be enjoying it too much and could pass on the next COD game. So their only options were create a remaster collection instead of a new game or bundle it together like this. I can't ever see them not making new games in the series. So yeah. We got this.
But you pair it with this remaster and tons of people will buy it just for that. Most long time COD fans love MW1 and won't have the willpower to wait until the game is sold by itself in order to play. And plenty of people who never experienced will get sucked into the hype of everyone talking about it and they'll buy it to give it a shot. The pairing guarantees the game will sell great regardless of how people feel about Infinite Warfare.
Oh, and Activision will just rake in even more cash when they do sell the remaster separately.
I also think there's a very high chance Activision will lock a MW1 map in each of Infinite Warfare's map packs in order to get people to buy those DLCs. That's probably why we're only getting ten maps. They know exactly what they're doing.
And I don't know if anyone has mentioned it already but another reason why this move makes sense for Activision is because there's really no other time they can release MW Remastered. They'd have to not create a new game in the series and just release a MW Collection instead one year... that was never likely. They can't release it early in the next year because it would kill the new game's MP player count and people wouldn't buy the map packs. If they release it later in the summer, people might be enjoying it too much and could pass on the next COD game. So their only options were create a remaster collection instead of a new game or bundle it together like this. I can't ever see them not making new games in the series. So yeah. We got this.
Gnome Scat
Member
BF1 will keep me busy until the standalone is released as well as many other people, so it was probably a bad move due to it screwing over fans of the old game.
brokenbeans
Banned
Well the way I see it is Sledgehammer is next and for me that's not good.
Yes the people that made Ghosts is now and that's even worse but I see MWR as the ultimate sweetener.
Just give us next years money now and you don't have to worry about buying a cod next year!
I don't need another cod till w@wR.
So I'm good, take my money.
Yes the people that made Ghosts is now and that's even worse but I see MWR as the ultimate sweetener.
Just give us next years money now and you don't have to worry about buying a cod next year!
I don't need another cod till w@wR.
So I'm good, take my money.
Hidden One
Member
Advanced Warfare looked the best graphics wise for CoD this gen and had a really good story. MP was good just all that hippy hoppy boost jumping shit turned me off and alot of others off. The way the story of Advanced Warfare ended means SHG doesn't necessarily have to make a sequel and i'd love to see them make a grounded Call Of Duty.
But overall PC gamers did protest CoD, CoD is all but dead on PC.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
I think the potential sales for remasters are vastly overrated. And since they can't sell the game for less than $40 because if they did they would probably take away sales from IW they are doing what's best. Activision will do great, you're basically paying $20 for the remaster and $60 for the new game. All these complaints are ridiculous.
Nah, it'll probably be the only thing that keeps it from being outsold by Battlefield.
No way it hurts them at all.
There are two options: A. everyone loves infinite warfare and the remaster is just a nice extra that adds to the value or B. Everyone hates infinite warfare but a large amount of people still buy it just for the remaster.
Either way, it'll get its own release eventually I'm sure so I'm not sure how it would hurt them.
It's like a safety net. Pretty smart if you ask me.
No way it hurts them at all.
There are two options: A. everyone loves infinite warfare and the remaster is just a nice extra that adds to the value or B. Everyone hates infinite warfare but a large amount of people still buy it just for the remaster.
Either way, it'll get its own release eventually I'm sure so I'm not sure how it would hurt them.
It's like a safety net. Pretty smart if you ask me.
If they plan to release it individually later, I don't think they can force it as an add-on to IW for the time being. Wouldn't there be some major backlash from people who'd buy the Legacy and want to sell IW, and just everyone in general? Could turn into a PR disaster.
i don't see it being released individually until over a year later, possibly digital only. it'll be an afterthought by then
Omnii-chan
Member
I'm getting it, I want to re-rank in MW that badly. I had such fun with it back in the day.
I'd play the old version but there are only a few servers left in Australia last time I played 2 years ago. Some have restrictions, so it's not very fun.
I don't care if it re-releases later in the year, more people will buy making a better online community, I just want to jump back in as soon as possible, which
is why I'm getting the Infinite Warfare special edition.
I consider it two games in one package and at $120 AUD, that's $60 each or $80/40 split. Seems fair to me.
I'd play the old version but there are only a few servers left in Australia last time I played 2 years ago. Some have restrictions, so it's not very fun.
I don't care if it re-releases later in the year, more people will buy making a better online community, I just want to jump back in as soon as possible, which
is why I'm getting the Infinite Warfare special edition.
I consider it two games in one package and at $120 AUD, that's $60 each or $80/40 split. Seems fair to me.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
I apologise if I don't personally know all 50 million CoD players.
Of my circle of gamer relatives/friends, all of us used to buy CoD religiously. There's about 10 of us or so. There's only 3 or 4 left that still buy and of those only 2 actually want IW.
Again, I never said CoD is dying. I said they will feel a hit with this move. Even if it's only a small one.
RedAssedApe
Banned
lol...riiight you do realize how much more cod sells than bf right? its not even close.
Or for $80 on NX?
I don't get why people are so down on Infinite Warfare. I haven't bought a CoD game since I picked up Black Ops 2 from the bargain bin. However I'm actually interested in IW. I'm a sucker for space games and games with fighter planes though. MW remastered is just a cool freebie
terencecah
Member
I buy cod every year
I buy battlefield every year
I buy battlefield every year
boybrushdRED
Member
They did not really shoot themselves in the foot with this decision. It will still sell. It seems that they just would not want for MW Remastered to compete with their flagship title this year. Maybe next year they will release MW Remastered as a standalone.
thekiddfran
Member
It doesn't, matter millions of people will still buy the latest COD regardless
Live Free or Die
Banned
Nope it was a brilliant business move. I'm buying it.
old manatee
Banned
I'm going to buy Battlefield 1 and then I'll buy the MW remaster down the line when they sell it by itself.
brokenbeans
Banned
Beer Monkey
Member
If the Modern Warfare multiplayer is locked down with no cheats, this.
Chobel
Member
They don't care about selling MW Remastered.
Its purpose is to bolster Infinite Warfare sales, and in doing so inject vitality into the Call of Duty franchise.
Allowing MWR to sell more than Infinite Warfare, as it quite possibly could, would do more harm than good to the franchise in the long-term. They don't have a great deal more nostalgia cards to play, and when they run out it would be game over. And even ignoring that competing with themselves wouldn't be the smart thing to do.
Its purpose is to bolster Infinite Warfare sales, and in doing so inject vitality into the Call of Duty franchise.
Allowing MWR to sell more than Infinite Warfare, as it quite possibly could, would do more harm than good to the franchise in the long-term. They don't have a great deal more nostalgia cards to play, and when they run out it would be game over. And even ignoring that competing with themselves wouldn't be the smart thing to do.
The sales will be fine no doubt about that. What worrisome will be the overall player count of infinite warfare. If the remastered is really good, we may see the most traded in game in recent history. They will get my money for sure but I know damn well I'll get some of it back by trading infinite warfare in and putting that money on battlefield 1
LostDonkey
Member
Battlefield being WW1 has had the opposite effect for me. I will probably be getting the new COD now instead, not that they are comparable but I'm just not interested in WW1.
Braag
Member
Hard to say, I'm sure CoD fans are gonna pay for it. Personally I stopped buying CoD games long time ago. Last few CoD games I own (BLOPS2, MW3, Ghosts) I got as gifts from friends who had extra keys. I played couple of missions of BLOPS2 campaign and forgot about it, haven't even bothered to install Ghosts or MW3.
CoD4 remaster was the first time I felt little excitement for CoD since MW2 but after I saw the price my interest disappeared quickly.
CoD4 remaster was the first time I felt little excitement for CoD since MW2 but after I saw the price my interest disappeared quickly.