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[RUMOR] Suicide Squad List of Deleted Scenes, or "How Warner B-butchered the movie".

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So this rumor comes from Reddit (or tumblr), but before you all butcher me for it instead, let's just view the list with a grain of salt that was collected from the tears of "The 26%". Here it goes, squint your eyes:

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  1. In early cuts, the movie's opening detailed June Moon's posession by Enchantress in real tome. Reshoots reshuffled the scene to be later in the movie in flashback form in favour of a new opening centered on Deadshot.
  2. Deadshot in the prison cell, watching the rain fall and thinking about his daughter.
  3. El Diablo observing the flame of a lit match, before putting it out due to his vow to no longer use his powers.
  4. El Diablo being escorted to a training center by being placed in a tube that fills with water to quel his flames, and then unceremoniously dropped onto the ground.
  5. Early interviews showed Captain Boomerang's racism and sexism, but the movie is light on examples of such behaviour, which have apparently been deleted. Most of them were reportedly directed at Katana, to whom Boomerang is attracted to.
  6. Early reports indicated more backstory for Killer Croc, revealing that he entire life as a social outcast due to his physical appearancr and has convinced himself that he is beautiful in his own way. Croc crossed paths with Batman while working as muscle-for-hire for numerous Gotham's crime bosses, while secretly planning to take over one day. There were also scenes displaying his affinity for making sculptures out of discarded materials. Aside from jokes about Croc viewing himself as 'beautiful,' one of these were retained in the final cut.
  7. Also deleted was a scene where he becomes sick at the helicopter escort to Midway City, throws up half-digested pieces of goat, and then eats them again, disgusting the nearby Navy Seals.
  8. Early cuts reportedly included a passing reference to Slipknot being serial rapist, likely to further paint him as unsympathetic to the audience ahead of his own death.
  9. More scenes of Rick Flag and June Moon's romantic relationship, including him reading the files of the Suicide Squad recruits after Waller delivers them to him.
  10. Another scene where Flag and Moon are out on a date.
  11. "Extended scene of Joker interrogating Captain Griggs, including the line, "I can't wait to show you my toys," which was in every trailer, but was removed from the movie."
  12. Joker and his men escaping after shooting up a restaurant. Harley, who is already affiliated with the Joker, follows them on a motorcycle and intercepts their car. Joker bangs his head against the glass in frustration.
  13. Joker and Harley then get into a fight, which ends with Harley pointing a gun at Joker's head. Joker sweet-talks Harley into lowering the gun, charming her, then backhands her across the face. Afterwards he sweet-talks her again and they kiss.
  14. Extended Ace Chemicals scene where Harley jumps into the chemicals. More bits of dialogue from Joker.
  15. Extended Batmobile chase scene with more interaction between Joker and Harley. One of the examples, presented in all the trailers, is the Joker punching the roof of his car.
  16. Harley using her baseball bat as a mock gun to play shoot at invisible foes.
  17. Extended scene of Joker breaking into the nanobomb manufacture facility to arrange for Harley's neck-bomb to be disabled.
  18. More interactions between Harley and Boomerang. Early cuts apparently included her really disliking him despite growing affectionate to all the other members of the squad.
  19. Extended bar scene with Harley taking everyone's orders. Deadshot calls for a shot, Katana wants whiskey, Croc and Boomerang settle for beer, Harley asks Diablo wants and he prefers water which she jokes, "is a good idea." The scene was featured in the trailers, but in the movie it cuts directly to Deadshot's speech about them all almost pulling the mission off.
  20. Removed several scenes with the Joker to repaint his relationship with Harley as more loving rather than abusive.
  21. Joker and Harley get into an argument after he rescues her in the hijacked helicopter. In early cuts he reportedly pushes her out to kill her, then the helicopter gets shot down. This was apparently reworked into the helicopter getting shot down first and Joker pushing her out to save her.
  22. Joker returns during the final battle in the subway station, face half-burnt from the helicopter crash, which apparently leads to a brief altercation with the Squad. He calls for Harley to escape with him but she refuses for once in order to help her friends, and the Joker escapes after throwing a live grenade at the group to cover his own escape.

Margot talking deleted scenes, a lot of Joker & Harley flashbacks cut (of course) & Harley movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4-9k-zs9VI&t=7m55s

Compilation of Jared talking deleted scenes - http://la-leto.tumblr.com/post/148598754586/321wecametofuck-la-leto-letosupercut
quick compilation of the deleted scenes and it looks like most of the rumors listed above are true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbZq0hneDjs
 

Blablurn

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In 10 years we look back and see that the studio hold back at the best Joker of all time. It's unbelievable how much they cut from him. There are no words, GAF. I can only pray for a Directors Cut. I wanna see Jared Letos full personification of The Joker.
 

Fury451

Banned
Still wouldn't have saved this movie.

I have to agree, and I didn't even hate it. The cuts would've improved the inconsistent tone, but it still would suffer from a thin and rather poor plot and claustrophobic characterizations.

The script itself was just not ambitious and rather dull
 
I was wondering about some of the scenes which were showed in the trailer but not in the movie.

Those details sounds AWESOME PLEASE PUT IT IN THE EXTENDED CUT.
 
I have to agree, and I didn't even hate it. The cuts would've improved the inconsistent tone, but it still would suffer from a thin and rather poor plot and claustrophobic characterizations.

The script itself was just not ambitious and rather dull

It would've made a shitty movie watchable. I got a headache from watching this movie.

Ctrl+F "Superman". 0 items found. 0 fucks given.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
The script butchered this movie.

These cuts sound like they're for the best, honestly. These movies aren't deft enough to be going anywhere near rape or abuse angles, even when trying to highlight that someone is a bad guy...or more of a bad guy than the other "bad guys."
 

Zackat

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Man Joker was cut big time. Say what you want about how you like the portrayal, but he wasn't even given a chance.
 

Caffeine

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the joker subway scene wouldnt have made any sense with how the movie ended. thats actually a good cut.
 

scitek

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In 10 years we look back and see that the studio hold back at the best Joker of all time. It's unbelievable how much they cut from him. There are no words, GAF. I can only pray for a Directors Cut. I wanna see Jared Letos full personification of The Joker.

He would have to be the main villain for the entirety of the film to have a fair chance to do that.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
What would Slipknot being a serial rapist have added to the film?

It would've at least gave him a bit of backstory, right now he has nothing besides punching one and then dying.
Can I just say that Boomerang's (light-hearted? mean?) racist and sexist jab towards Katana maybe the reason it didn't get released in China.

I imagine China would've seen the final cut that doesn't have that but I'm not sure how China does things.
 
All the rumored stuff that got cut sounds like an entirely different and, imo, improved version than what we got.

I agree. I gave the characters more depth, you have a more emotional stake in them. Plus Leto's joker felt flat to me but that could be due to the reduction in film time he got.
 
Regardless of whether these scenes exist or not, just watching the mess/movie you can tell that there is a decent movie in there somewhere. I wonder if we will get a director's cut that changes the movie dramatically..
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
All the rumored stuff that got cut sounds like an entirely different and, imo, improved version than what we got.

You could literally do this for any movie though. Of course what you're piecing together in your head will be better. What people aren't considering is pacing. Like Joker
showing up to fuck with the squad again. Then exiting stage left and showing up yet again for Harley is stupid.

Most of these big movies have cut scenes and reshoots. I don't know why people are suddenly hoping there is some magic cut that makes these clunkers better. We didn't do this for Green Lantern, Thor 2, or that super shitty second Ghost Rider movie. Yeah, I invoked Thor 2.
 
What would Slipknot being a serial rapist have added to the film?
"Wow these bad guys really aren't even bad"
"Holy shit these people are fucked up"
You could literally do this for any movie though. Of course what you're piecing together in your head will be better. What people aren't considering is pacing. Like Joker
showing up to fuck with the squad again. Then exiting stage left and showing up yet again for Harley is stupid.

Most of these big movies have cut scenes and reshoots. I don't know why people are suddenly hoping there is some magic cut that makes these clunkers better. We didn't do this for Green Lantern, Thor 2, or that super shitty second Ghost Rider movie. Yeah, I invoked Thor 2.
Because if you completely ignore the fact that WB cut up the movie like 2 months before it released then poorly put it back together then yes your argument makes sense. Unfortunately that's not the case.
 

ezekial45

Banned
It's disappointing, but a number of scenes actually sound like they deserve to be cut.

After seeing where the Joker's grenade was supposed to be placed, I can see why they cut it. It probably would've been weird and out of place to have something like that before the enchantress fight.
 

scitek

Member
It probably would've actually. You guys are being a little ridiculous. Especially when a huge issue was the shitty editing and missing parts which surprise, ruins a movie. Wouldn't have been perfect but it would be a whole lot better.
I highly doubt there was a good film there before these cuts were made. Studios don't usually feel the need to make these kind of changes if that's the case.
 
A lot of these scenes are what made me excited to see the film.

I'm debating even bothering watching this in theaters tbh. I'll wait for an extended cut, if there is going to be one... Not getting my hopes up though.
 
I don't follow dceu news - is Leto supposed to play joker in an upcoming batman movie? Seems like a huge waste of casting and hype for a few minutes of a side movie if not.
 

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well not really...yet
http://batman-news.com/2016/08/07/jared-leto-suicide-squad-footage-joker-movie/

“I think that I brought so much to the table in every scene that it was probably more about filtering all of the insanity, because I wanted to give a lot of options, and I think there’s probably enough footage in this film for a Joker movie,” Leto explained. “If I were to die tomorrow maybe the studio would roll something out.”

“I always wished this film was rated R, and I had actually said that when we were starting. It felt like if a film was ever going to be rated R it should be the one about the villains,”
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
I don't follow dceu news - is Leto supposed to play joker in an upcoming batman movie? Seems like a huge waste of casting and hype for a few minutes of a side movie if not.

We don't know if he'll be the main villain of the next movie but the idea of having a cinematic universe is that they can all intermingle, so he'll show up in other movies when they want him to.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
"Wow these bad guys really aren't even bad"
"Holy shit these people are fucked up"

Because if you completely ignore the fact that WB cut up the movie like 2 months before it released then poorly put it back together then yes your argument makes sense. Unfortunately that's not the case.

What proof do you have that the cut made the movie worse? Sometimes they have to cut a movie together because the first pass is a disaster. A mediocre movie that is 2 hours and 30 minutes is probably going to get even more savaged than a mediocre movie that is just 2 hours. But even then, these cuts sound extremely short.

You're imagining a movie in your head based off small little glimpses and claiming that it is better than the final product, when it in fact could have easily been much worse. Maybe the studio went into panic mode because the first cut was that bad.

EDIT: I mean, this isn't some huge mystery. The movie was written in like 6 weeks and they went with the first draft.
 
It seems like they really had no idea how to portray Boomerang. Racist? Sexist? He could have been trading jokes with Deadshot and Harley but instead they really wanted to double down on him being a quiet asshole.
 
I highly doubt there was a good film there before these cuts were made. Studios don't usually feel the need to make these kind of changes if that's the case.
The movie was too dark tonally and after the backlash from BvS they changed it to make it more bright and focus tested it, people liked it, then AFTER that they tried to mix the two versions of the film and got the people to edit the trailers to edit the entire movie which is why the movie is a mess.
What proof do you have that the cut made the movie worse? Sometimes they have to cut a movie together because the first pass is a disaster. A mediocre movie that is 2 hours and 30 minutes is probably going to get even more savaged than a mediocre movie that is just 2 hours. But even then, these cuts sound extremely short.

You're imagining a movie in your head based off small little glimpses and claiming that it is better than the final product, when it in fact could have easily been much worse. Maybe the studio went into panic mode because the first cut was that bad.
The fact that one makes sense and one doesn't should be proof enough along with the fact that it's incoherent and poorly edited along with all the rumors about production In the last few months and even another gaffer briefly talking about production troubles since they were seemingly close to the film's production. I'm not imagining the film would be better based off those clips, I'm looking at the reality of the film's situation and its pretty widely accepted that it was butchered in post which is where a lot of the film's issues come from. The film's you listed don't have that issue.
 
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