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DBT85 · Nov 11, 2016

3 seperate teardowns now. The Sony one is nice as you get a bit of info about the various bits and what they've done to the design like moving from 3 to 6 power phases etc, the fan impeller is also 10mm larger than Base PS4. The bluray drive is apparently the same as the base PS4.

Absolutely loads of screws to get it all apart!

Gamerman1 said:
Here is a Ps4Pro teardown video that was just uploaded. http://youtu.be/-IYMekLaWws

Deeke[VRZ];224079822 said:
ifixit has a teardown up, too.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/PlayStation+4+Pro+Teardown/72946

Hanmik said:
Sony Playstation just put op a video..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euBlNq5kda0

Teardown screenshots

0racle · Nov 11, 2016

Those guys are pros.

SebastianM · Nov 11, 2016

So the extra layer of sandwich is basically for ventilation purposes only?

platina · Nov 11, 2016

great news

gundamkyoukai · Nov 11, 2016

Nice was looking forward to seeing a teardown .

III-V · Nov 11, 2016

that butterfly

TheVampire · Nov 11, 2016

Why dont they use a bigger quieter fan

onQ123 · Nov 11, 2016

The new APU make the old one look like no one cared about it lol

Ploid 3.0 · Nov 11, 2016

That thermal past all over the surrounding bits looked like it would be a pain to clean off. Those are no problem for paste to seep onto?

DBT85 · Nov 11, 2016

Ploid 3.0 said:
That thermal past all over the surrounding bits looked like it would be a pain to clean off. Those are no problem for paste to seep onto?

No, happens all the time on mass produced stuff like this.

Not difficult to clean out tho.

This one looked like it had far too much paste to me. Someone at the automation plant was told "large grain of rice" or "small pea" and heard "meatball".

EDIT: Hadn't seen that particular vid inner-G. That's me told!

inner-G · Nov 11, 2016

Ploid 3.0 said:
That thermal past all over the surrounding bits looked like it would be a pain to clean off. Those are no problem for paste to seep onto?

https://youtu.be/rAid5G30-WM

Nope

AmyS · Nov 11, 2016

I'd like to see a die photograph of that FinFET APU, especially to know the ROP count of the GPU, even though it's probably 32 like the original PS4 GPU, and Polaris 10.

DooMAGE · Nov 11, 2016

really looks like a premium product, congrats Sony

Dash_Riprock · Nov 11, 2016

So the extra layer of ventilation is why its so quiet?

Skux · Nov 11, 2016

Yeap, that's a PlayStation teardown alright. Tightly packed, fan on the side, all the CPU at the bottom.

Elios83 · Nov 11, 2016

That APU! It's huge notwithstanding a 14/16nm process.

Deku Tree · Nov 11, 2016

Nice! Love these tear downs.

family_guy · Nov 11, 2016

DooMAGE said:
really looks like a premium product, congrats Sony

Just hope any potential revisions don't get downgraded.

DBT85 · Nov 11, 2016

Dash_Riprock said:
So the extra layer of ventilation is why its so quiet?

I doubt it. They always add that shit I think. I assume they think gamers play in actual warzones so it needs to be indestructible.

Aztechnology · Nov 11, 2016

Ahhh copper finally.

LostDonkey · Nov 11, 2016

I hate that green mobo it looks so tacky in the consoles

DBT85 · Nov 11, 2016

LostDonkey said:
I hate that green mobo it looks so tacky in the consoles

wat?

KOHIPEET · Nov 11, 2016

It's forbidden to post porn on gaf.

Gamerman1 · Nov 11, 2016

Dash_Riprock said:
So the extra layer of ventilation is why its so quiet?

And a true copper heatsink junction. Normal PS4 heat sink is just a chunk of aluminum with thick fins. Pro uses fins found on good PC CPU heat sinks.

Gamerman1 · Nov 11, 2016

Elios83 said:
That APU! It's huge notwithstanding a 14/16nm process.

I think they said there is two gpu's. the original one and the new one next to it. They can turn the old one off and use new one. Think that is how it works.

sdornan · Nov 11, 2016

It seems so "substantial." They didn't skimp on it.

Shpeshal Nick · Nov 11, 2016

Dash_Riprock said:
So the extra layer of ventilation is why its so quiet?

So quiet? Didn't DF already confirm it's about the same level as a launch PS4?

In other words, not quiet?

Chronos24 · Nov 11, 2016

Collingwood said:
So quiet? Didn't DF already confirm it's about the same level as a launch PS4?

In other words, not quiet?

Wrong. Not even close. The general consensus is its very quiet and gets around 1200 model noise at worst. It is nothing like launch console.

Easy_D · Nov 11, 2016

Chronos24 said:
Wrong. Not even close. The general consensus is its very quiet and gets around 1200 model noise at worst. It is nothing like launch console.

If the thermal paste shown above is the average amount I'm betting it can be even less noisy, having that much only hinders heat dissipation

DBT85 · Nov 11, 2016

Easy_D said:
If the thermal paste shown above is the average amount I'm betting it can be even less noisy, having that much only hinders heat dissipation

Watch the video inner-G posted.

Jay puts a motherlode on a gpu and it made it fractionally better, not worse.

Kyoufu · Nov 11, 2016

Collingwood said:
So quiet? Didn't DF already confirm it's about the same level as a launch PS4?

In other words, not quiet?

DF said C-chassis, so no, not launch model.

And after using it for the whole day, it doesn't sound anything like my older PS4s did.

Shpeshal Nick · Nov 11, 2016

Kyoufu said:
DF said C-chassis, so no, not launch model.

And after using it for the whole day, it doesn't sound anything like my older PS4s did.

Ah, so the matte finish console?

I have that one, that's not that bad.

Bjoern the Smexy · Nov 11, 2016

LostDonkey said:
I hate that green mobo it looks so tacky in the consoles

Are you tearing off the casing of your consoles when you play games or what?

DBT85 · Nov 11, 2016

Bjoern the Smexy said:
Are you tearing off the casing of your consoles when you play games or what?

Not sure what the problem is, probably 99% of boards in things are green.

Dredd97 · Nov 11, 2016

onQ123 said:
The new APU make the old one look like no one cared about it lol

I'll be disappointed that, when they do a teardown of the scorpio next year, the chip doesn't have 4K in big letters on it /s

Coulomb_Barrier · Nov 11, 2016

Look at that last shot, the worlds most powerful APU by some distance.

Serious Sam · Nov 11, 2016

It seems like you can just pop open the top layer without undoing any screws at the bottom to get quick access to the fan for cleaning out dust?

Raylan · Nov 11, 2016

Xbox inside the PS4 Pro confirmed.

Rodin · Nov 11, 2016

That fan is laughable, now i see why it's noisy.

DieH@rd · Nov 11, 2016

Another well made piece of hardware from Sony.

TheVampire said:
Why dont they use a bigger quieter fan

Do you see a space for a BIGGER fan?

Raylan · Nov 11, 2016

Rodin said:
That fan is laughable, now i see why it's noisy.

Played Uncharted 4 and TLOU in 4K. The PS4 Pro isn't "noisy" at all.

Serious Sam · Nov 11, 2016

Rodin said:
That fan is laughable, now i see why it's noisy.

Is this your personal experience with the Pro or are you going by some internet comments? Haven't seen a single GAFer who said it's noisy, everyone is very impressed by how quiet it is.

Luigiv · Nov 11, 2016

Gamerman1 said:
I think they said there is two gpu's. the original one and the new one next to it. They can turn the old one off and use new one. Think that is how it works.

That can't be true. That would be a totally dumb/wasteful way to design the system. I'm 99.9% sure that there is only one GPU (that's comprised of twice the shader cores as the original) and when the Pro switches into legacy mode, it just disables half the cores and downclocks to match the original rather than switching to a different GPU entirely.

big_z · Nov 11, 2016

TheVampire said:
Why dont they use a bigger quieter fan

the small heat sink and tight spacing of the fins likely require more air pressure to be effective. a small fast fan works best.

if sony extended the heat sink back a bit further so that the fins were more spaced out they could have gotten away with a larger and quieter fan. probably would have cost a few cents more to make though.

Sesuadra · Nov 11, 2016

Well, explains why my PS4 Pro is way more silent than my PS4.

I love teardowns.

PLASTICA-MAN · Nov 11, 2016

I thought they would add multiple fans since everything is bigger now.

goonergaz · Nov 11, 2016

DBT85 said:
No, happens all the time on mass produced stuff like this.

Not difficult to clean out tho.

This one looked like it had far too much paste to me. Someone at the automation plant was told "large grain of rice" or "small pea" and heard "meatball".

EDIT: Hadn't seen that particular vid inner-G. That's me told!

in this scenario I would imagine too much rather than too little is better

Sesuadra · Nov 11, 2016

PLASTICA-MAN said:
I thought they would add multiple fans since everything is bigger now.

multiple small fans would be louder than one big fan

michaelius · Nov 11, 2016

Serious Sam said:
Is this your personal experience with the Pro or are you going by some internet comments? Haven't seen a single GAFer who said it's noisy, everyone is very impressed by how quiet it is.

That's unfortunately not true - I got one yesterday and it's about as noisy as my launch PS4 unit.

PLASTICA-MAN · Nov 11, 2016

Sesuadra said:
multiple small fans would be louder than one big fan

I understand that. but is just one big fan enough to cool down everything?

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