-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Assassins Creed Syndicate Patch 1.51 fixes Pro Support
- Thread starter black070
- Start date
Garrett Hawke
Member
syndicate was rendering at 1440x1620 and then upscaling that lmao
so less than 1920 horizontal and more than 1080 vertical so it just looked terrible
it went from this:
to this:
Edit: this was patch 1.5. Idk what it's like with this patch, 1.51
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Ouch, lets hope they fixed it. Was the framerate any better? When I played it at launch, it was more stable than Unity but still felt uneven.
it went from this:
to this:
No sun and no people anymore? D:
To be fair, no sun is more authentically English.
Plumpbiscuit
Member
Holy fuck, not even anisotropic filtering above x4?
Polygonal_Sprite
Member
The downgrade is real ! Someone make a thread ! ;-)
giancarlo123x
Banned
I should probably re-download the game and test it
Thanks! Those look really clean and crisp.Updated OP with screenshots
Might have to redownload this thing. Never got around to completing the Jack the Ripper DLC.
Corleth the Fey
Member
I posted in the old patch thread, but yeah I've played a bit and it looks much better on Pro. More like the Watchdogs 2 Pro implementation.
vonStirlitz
Unconfirmed Member
[Redacted as the member no longer wishes to be associated with this website, and the reputational damage and distress caused by association with this website. In addition, the user considers that the action of the management, and the nature of the site and members of its community, renders the original terms and conditions of this site void, and it unconscionable for either side to be bound to them. The user reasserts their IP rights in all content and does not give any authority for its continued usage on this website. Despite requesting that the user's account be deleted, in accordance with data protection rules which apply to this website over multiple jurisdictions, the admin team have failed to delete this account, requiring the user to take its own steps to ensure the valid deletion of data.]
Perrrrrrfect. I just started this game on Sunday after ignoring the series for years (dropped AC3 about 5 hours into it and never looked back) since a friend insisted this was the best one in the series and it was like $12 on PSN. Having fun so far, though I hope the next game in the series does something new because Syndicate still feels like a tweaked version of the first AC.
It's said to run at a stable 30fps.
Corleth the Fey
Member
Yep, I'm on 1080p. Looks like Watchdogs 2 style super sampling, but you know untrained eye and all that. I noticed the issues on the old patch instantly, and I can't see it now - so untrained they maybe, the eyes normally notice this sort of thing. Looking forward to DF/NX videos.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
Finally! I made the thread for the last patch and I was really disappointed after my initial excitement. Can't wait to check this out and (hopefully) finish this game.
Dust-by-Monday
Member
NICE! I'll have to boot this up tonight and see if it uses Supersampling or not.
There's definitely an improvement but there's still some very strange things going on with the handrails in the first couple of images.
EDIT:
I mean the ones in the mid ground in the first image and, well, all of them in the second.
EDIT:
I mean the ones in the mid ground in the first image and, well, all of them in the second.
breakfuss
Member
Not sure if you're in the US (and don't mind physical) but it's currently on sale at Best Buy.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
1080p comparisons (different time of day in all, only compare IQ):
Original PS4:
Patch 1.5:
Patch 1.51:
It's not perfect, I'm noticing pixel crawl, shimmering and shadow oddities (the latter hopefully isn't introduced by the patch) but as you can clearly see it's definitely running at a much higher resolution now and is a clear upgrade over the base version and much better then the horrendous 1.5. If this is how the game is left I'm happy.
Looking forward to seeing a detailed analysis.
Edit: Spent the last few minutes running around the city and it does look pretty fantastic now.
Original PS4:
Patch 1.5:
Patch 1.51:
It's not perfect, I'm noticing pixel crawl, shimmering and shadow oddities (the latter hopefully isn't introduced by the patch) but as you can clearly see it's definitely running at a much higher resolution now and is a clear upgrade over the base version and much better then the horrendous 1.5. If this is how the game is left I'm happy.
Looking forward to seeing a detailed analysis.
Edit: Spent the last few minutes running around the city and it does look pretty fantastic now.
NXGamer
Member
I covered the first patch with its 1440x1620 output and from your grab here it does look better, that said I am only viewing on a zoomed phone. Will check it out soon but should be now 2880x1620 as it's intended aim. I was convinced the game was using a reconstructed render method when I covered last year so the issues may be from the implemented checkerboard solution here fitting into that pipe.There's definitely an improvement but there's still some very strange things going on with the handrails in the first couple of images.
EDIT:
I mean the ones in the mid ground in the first image and, well, all of them in the second.
First of all, keep up the good work, I do watch all the videos.
Not my screens, I quoted somebody else's so I've not actually seen it in person. Hopefully you'll offer more feedback when you you can do a proper comparison.
I'm assuming that reconstruction plays a part in it as there's some strange banding in some areas. With aliasing you'll get horizontal and vertical steps because, in it's most basic form, you're just seeing the edges of each pixel.
In these images, to me at least, it looks like this is actually happening at an angle between the horizontal and vertical and that it's not actually the edges of the pixels that are the issue but what's being done between those pixels. Almost as if there's an error in their estimation of what would be happening there.
I don't know a great deal about the technical aspects so I'm not sure if I've even explained that well but it sort of makes sense in my head. Sort of.
Actually I felt Unity did a lot to help re-vitalize the AC game design. Missions that gave far more freedom in approach beyond literally following the waypoint, you can tackle assassinations especially in a variety of ways unlike the rigid cinematic flair kills of earlier titles. The control scheme was adjusted to make parkour feel more dynamic and in control(Syndicate borrows those developments). Co-op was also a thrilling inclusion when working in tandem with others, but never forced either.
It's just that the story was pointless and forgettable, and of course the launch bugs helped create a perception among gamers that the game was ultimately a failure worth demonizing. A real shame as the game was fixed and many of its advancements will ultimately be seen in AC games going forward, but credit will not be given its due.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Time to finally buy this on PS4 I guess.
Kilau
Member
Dang, shows not available within 250 miles lol
Nachtfalke
Member
Huge improvement but the game still looks rough. Atleast they should add some proper AF. It's baffling that this feature is still missing or dialed back in many recent games.
Just tested out and it definitely is a major improvement over the last patch. Everything looks much cleaner in comparison on a 4K set, but still a bit lacking in overall IQ in comparison to other Pro-enhanced titles.
Plan to find time to actually play the game now.
Plan to find time to actually play the game now.
Jakartalado
Member
It's still looks horrible on my 4K Screen.
Coming from Watch Dogs 2, Shadow of Mordor and Uncharted 4 (my last 3 games played), this looks a mess.
Lots of aliasing (4K games have pretty much surpassed my expectations in this department). Shadows looks terrible. Lots of pop in. Textures look bland everywhere. Shimmering also very present.
Perhaps they should focus on Unity their strength, not this one.
Coming from Watch Dogs 2, Shadow of Mordor and Uncharted 4 (my last 3 games played), this looks a mess.
Lots of aliasing (4K games have pretty much surpassed my expectations in this department). Shadows looks terrible. Lots of pop in. Textures look bland everywhere. Shimmering also very present.
Perhaps they should focus on Unity their strength, not this one.
thelastword
Banned
Yeah, well first thing I noticed whilst going through that section yesterday....It doesn't look like straight aliasing though, it looks like some form of artifacting+AA issues.....There's definitely an improvement but there's still some very strange things going on with the handrails in the first couple of images.
EDIT:
I mean the ones in the mid ground in the first image and, well, all of them in the second.
I must say though, the game looks much better and crisper than before and IQ is pretty great with some solid AF from my vantagepoint. The only issue which my eye immediately noticed was the rails and some slight shimmer on distant chains etc..So maybe their TAA solution is not properly implemented. It's not a jaggy game at all beyond that, so hopefully they sort it out.
The worse I saw of it, was when you go way to the left in the corner of that opening section and you shift the camera, the rails above you can look pretty bad, straight bonkers....I think we should get it to their attention though.....I have a million pics and would probably take pics that highlights the rails issue, but my USB drive has gone bonkers.......
Eh,..that's the reason I could not post those driveclub shots I promised in that racing comparison thread btw Gestault.....
Played for a bit last night and coming for just about any other Pro game this one looks jaggy. It is cleaner then it was before then it was on ps4. But going from clean images to this and the simmering really stands out.
On the bright side I can finally free up 50 gigs on my harddrive!
On the bright side I can finally free up 50 gigs on my harddrive!
Liabe Brave
Member
Yes, the game does supersample at 1080p.
Yes, I noticed this while pixel counting last night. I believe the apparent "aliasing" is not edges, but actually a lighting effect that's resolved at a lower resolution. (The same sort of thing happens with reflections in Mafia III.) Note that a lot of rails aren't actually straight, they're slightly bent, which I think is contributing to the odd appearance.
Yes, the game is now full 1620p. But I don't think it's using CBR or another reconstructive method; there are no visible artifacts of that kind. The stippling/dithering in the last patch seems to have been due to an error of a different kind.
I'd like to invite anyone who has a Pro and some spare time to help out with [URL="http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1324251]my Pro enhancement thread[/URL]. I'm trying to keep that list current, but for that I need screenshots and impressions. Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated!
thelastword
Banned
Damn, I don't think it's that bad at all...I have some shots from appropriate angles and I would like to post them, but I can't atm....
NXGamer
Member
Good job on the check, yes I have counted last night and agree, it is now a complete solution. The reason I leant toward the last patch being CB targeted is due to the 1440 width being a odd sacrifice unless an "interlace" algorithm was it's intention. I see no crazy artifacts this time but a good method should not really have them bar edge cases (quite literally) and alpha transparencies that may fail/miss reproduction but it could indeed be native.
Commendable task on the thread, always happy to help so can post native 4K grabs for future work as I take them for my counting and host many on my Web articles also, happy to help.
Liabe Brave
Member
Thank you very much! Your work is always impressive, especially how incisively observant you are of fine detail. What you do is very much appreciated.