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Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands PC performance thread
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Is that the The Crew engine?
Thanks to everyone in the thread that helped me figure this out.
My issue was that I'd get stutters every time the game would save (the little Ghost Recon icon in the corner). This is because I have my OS and thus My Documents on my smaller SDD and the actual game saved on my much larger (and maybe dying HDD). I moved the game files from the HDD to the SSD and everything has been silky smooth since, no stutter. Sometimes I think I get that network related freezing, but I don't think that has to do with hardware.
It's rare that I get an issue like this and am able to fix it, so thanks guys!
My issue was that I'd get stutters every time the game would save (the little Ghost Recon icon in the corner). This is because I have my OS and thus My Documents on my smaller SDD and the actual game saved on my much larger (and maybe dying HDD). I moved the game files from the HDD to the SSD and everything has been silky smooth since, no stutter. Sometimes I think I get that network related freezing, but I don't think that has to do with hardware.
It's rare that I get an issue like this and am able to fix it, so thanks guys!
Dictator93
Member
Anyone have any screenshots of the per-object motion blur in action?
Kurt Russell
Member
When I played the open beta, locking the game to 30 fps fixed that issue for me. I know it's not ideal, but after doing that, I had a far better experience.
Pretty tough for me to get it to 60fps. Running on my GTX960 2GB with an overclocked Intel i7 860 (so you can already guess it'll struggle with this game), I only managed to get a solid 60fps by using the High Preset, setting Texture Quality to low and reducing the rendering resolution to 0.70.
I will spare you the screenshots since the game isn't a looker on my system at all, but at least I got a mostly solid 60 now with only some stuttering dropping it in the high 50s.
My bigger issues are with sound. In certain intervals the game sound will completely cut off. Just the game too, since I can still hear my friends on Discord but for a few seconds every now and then my game goes completely mute.
Overall however, compared to the beta I wouldn't say much improved. The game does feel a bit better now in terms of performance but not by a huge margin.
I will spare you the screenshots since the game isn't a looker on my system at all, but at least I got a mostly solid 60 now with only some stuttering dropping it in the high 50s.
My bigger issues are with sound. In certain intervals the game sound will completely cut off. Just the game too, since I can still hear my friends on Discord but for a few seconds every now and then my game goes completely mute.
Overall however, compared to the beta I wouldn't say much improved. The game does feel a bit better now in terms of performance but not by a huge margin.
AssCreed. The Crew runs on Ivory Tower's own engine.
Ubisoft does not program any of its games to run at 60 fps. There will always be bottlenecks in their own engines that will cause stuttering if you want to play at 60 fps. They do not give a shit, basically.
And that's why I no longer buy Ubi games.
Ubi games with stuttering at 60 fps
Farcry 3
Farcry 4
Farcry Primal
Assassin's Creed 3
Assassin's Creed Black Flag
Assassin's Creed Unity
Assassin's Creed Syndicate
Watch Dogs
Watch Dogs 2
The Crew
Ghost Recon Wild Lands
Snowdrop engine by Massive is another different story. It's a work of gods.
And that's why I no longer buy Ubi games.
Ubi games with stuttering at 60 fps
Farcry 3
Farcry 4
Farcry Primal
Assassin's Creed 3
Assassin's Creed Black Flag
Assassin's Creed Unity
Assassin's Creed Syndicate
Watch Dogs
Watch Dogs 2
The Crew
Ghost Recon Wild Lands
Snowdrop engine by Massive is another different story. It's a work of gods.
alexanderftw
Banned
My thoughts exactly. Not only the Division engine runs great but it looks insane, way above the games you mentioned.
Lockjaw333
Member
Definitely true from my experience. This anvil engine is definitely built around 30fps. It will probably take significant patching to fix, just like every other game on your list.
In this case, maybe.
icecold1983
Member
geometry bottlenecks. as you increase resolution furys always pull ahead since shading and or bandwidth eventually become bigger bottlenecks
TechPowerUp
GameGPU
Turf Effects are mostly some additional polys and NV h/w is basically idle in your typical console level workload when it comes to polygon pushing so I'd guess that it wouldn't affect the performance much on any modern NV (or AMD starting with GCN3) card.
Jesus, why is Fiji so poor? Hope to God they corrected that for Vega.
Lockjaw333
Member
I was toggling settings and found that the screen tearing I was getting is tied to the god rays setting. When it's set to "enhanced" I get massive tearing, but when it's set to "on" the tearing goes away mostly. Still a few tears here and there.
I'm running at settings that are only taxing my 1070 at like 75% usage, and my CPU cores are all below like 70%. Still get stuttering, hitches and screen tearing with perfect frame times reported by RTSS. Really weird.
I'm running at settings that are only taxing my 1070 at like 75% usage, and my CPU cores are all below like 70%. Still get stuttering, hitches and screen tearing with perfect frame times reported by RTSS. Really weird.
How do you lock it to 30?
You haven't read the OP, have you?
You can do it externally or via the game's own framerate limiter.Tips and tricks:
Cap the framerate/potentially improve frametimes: Download RivaTuner Statistics Server, input your desired framerate limit in the "Framerate limit" box, and hit enter (the program comes bundled with MSI Afterburner and earlier versions of EVGA PrecisionX). Those with an Nvidia GPU and a desire to run the game at a value equal to half their refresh rate (e.g. 30fps on a 60Hz monitor) may also want to try forcing half-refresh rate vsync via Nvidia Inspector as per this visual guide (click the small tool icon to open the driver profile section).
Note: Useful if you your system can't maintain, say, 60fps and you're sensitive to the wild fluctuations, or you're experiencing uneven frametimes. The greater window the engine has to render a given frame, if you're imposing a lower framerate than the game can otherwise provide, may also help in alleviating stuttering related to data streaming.
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Graphics settings:
Display: Self-explanatory
Window mode: Windows; Borderless; Fullscreen
Resolution: Self-explanatory
Resolution scaling: 0.5 -> 2.0 in increments of 0.10
V-sync: Off; On; Adaptive
Refresh rate: Self-explanatory
Framerate limit: Off; 30; 40; 50; 60; 75; 90; 100; 120; 144
Extended FoV: 0% -> 100% in increments of 100%
Nyteshade517
Member
new NVIDIA Driver out with Wildlands optimizations apparently...378.78
no idea how much they improve performance (if at all)
no idea how much they improve performance (if at all)
You haven't read the OP, have you?
I read it but stopped when I saw you had to download external applications (no way I'm doing that). I also missed the framerate limit option in-game because it was grayed out as I had vsync on. Which begs the question: why can't I have vsync on and a 30 fps limit? That's pretty standard on consoles.
Anyway, the game is MUCH smoother with the 30 limit, and I even run it on ultra (with very high texture quality) while I previously had everything on high with a choppy average of ~40 fps. So thanks!
Kadin
Member
They've at least added an SLI profile for this game and others which I think will make some happy.[/url]
Slackbladder
Member
I'm wondering if I need more RAM. I have 16GB of 2133DDR3 but I got a System Ram Low error which gave me a blue screen.
Now I play 4K but .60 resolution scaling and most settings at Ultra except shadows, vegetation quality and long range shadows to on/very high. I have a 1080 and a 4790k@4.2ghz.
I checked using MSI Afterburner and I could see my RAM reaching 10GB and vram hitting 8GB. My page file has not been altered.
Apart from this crash on this game I noticed it on another when running at 4k (though never with FH3). So I'm not sure what's up.
Apart from that it runs pretty well. It's installed on my SSD and there's only a little jerkiness when loading areas/streaming. Hardly noticeable. I play at 50fps and my frametime can hit 25ms but is usually sub 20. It's generally smooth. And it can look quite good.
Now I play 4K but .60 resolution scaling and most settings at Ultra except shadows, vegetation quality and long range shadows to on/very high. I have a 1080 and a 4790k@4.2ghz.
I checked using MSI Afterburner and I could see my RAM reaching 10GB and vram hitting 8GB. My page file has not been altered.
Apart from this crash on this game I noticed it on another when running at 4k (though never with FH3). So I'm not sure what's up.
Apart from that it runs pretty well. It's installed on my SSD and there's only a little jerkiness when loading areas/streaming. Hardly noticeable. I play at 50fps and my frametime can hit 25ms but is usually sub 20. It's generally smooth. And it can look quite good.
Ah, fair enough!
Anyway, the game is MUCH smoother with the 30 limit, and I even run it on ultra (with very high texture quality) while I previously had everything on high with a choppy average of ~40 fps. So thanks!
Well, it seems I didn't actually help, but, sure, I'll take the compliment.
No difference, getting between 55-70 on medium-high settings. I wouldn't mind the fps if there wasn't a ton of hitching and frame skipping happening.
1080p res. 980ti, i76700k@4.4, 8gb ram, ssd.
same cpu as well. the hitching is annoying as fuck
I am an inch close to locking this shit to 30 fps, cracking every setting to Ultra and play with a controller.
cripterion
Member
They don't lol.
Only thing I noticed is in the benchmark my CPU was used @ 30% under previous drivers and they're now a little under 50%.
Lockjaw333
Member
Honestly that is how the engine is built so probably the best experience right now.
That said let's wait for the first patch. I might put it down for a bit and wait for that, because at the times it does hold a steady 60fps it plays so much better.
They probably should have delayed the PC version a few weeks.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
I can't get this game to start from uPlay (or anywhere). 980ti SLI with the latest drivers. Any suggestions?
edit: just to be clear it acts like it's starting up and then just seems to quit without any error, message, or anything...
edit 2: guess this is a known issue. Fantastic. Out $99 and can't play this POS game.
edit 3: fixed it. It wasn't running because I have hard drives striped with "Storage Spaces" and apparently this game doesn't like that. Had to copy the folder to another hard drive that wasn't part of the collection. Ugh.
edit: just to be clear it acts like it's starting up and then just seems to quit without any error, message, or anything...
edit 2: guess this is a known issue. Fantastic. Out $99 and can't play this POS game.
edit 3: fixed it. It wasn't running because I have hard drives striped with "Storage Spaces" and apparently this game doesn't like that. Had to copy the folder to another hard drive that wasn't part of the collection. Ugh.
Slackbladder
Member
Just installed the patch and started the game and I am immediately using 13GB of RAM. What the hell? I haven't even started yet.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
For Honor is the other exception.
icecold1983
Member
He means open world games i think
My 1080 Ti does not manage a constant 60 fps at 1440p on Ultra.
Ultra shadows take a giant hit on the framerate. If I play with Very High preset I get a constant 80-90 FPS.
I was expecting much more from this card on the game. Do we know for certain which cards are making the frames tank? About framepacing, it's fine so far despite everything.
Running on:
i7 6700K @ 4.4 Ghz
16 GB RAM 3200 Mhz
1080 Ti FE (Boosted to 1800 Mhz)
Ultra shadows take a giant hit on the framerate. If I play with Very High preset I get a constant 80-90 FPS.
I was expecting much more from this card on the game. Do we know for certain which cards are making the frames tank? About framepacing, it's fine so far despite everything.
Running on:
i7 6700K @ 4.4 Ghz
16 GB RAM 3200 Mhz
1080 Ti FE (Boosted to 1800 Mhz)
Lockjaw333
Member
The patch eliminated the freezing on auto save, but I still get terrible stuttering or what feels like uneven frame times, even though RTSS is reporting perfect 16.6ms at locked 60.
I think this game just needs to be played at a 30fps lock. It would be the first game where I just give up and do that.
Anyone have thoughts on the new AA options? I hate adding sharpening with temporal aa, but if you don't it looks way too soft. SMAA with no sharpening looks better to me, but some foliage like swaying grass looks terrible. SMAA + fxaa is a tad better maybe.
I think this game just needs to be played at a 30fps lock. It would be the first game where I just give up and do that.
Anyone have thoughts on the new AA options? I hate adding sharpening with temporal aa, but if you don't it looks way too soft. SMAA with no sharpening looks better to me, but some foliage like swaying grass looks terrible. SMAA + fxaa is a tad better maybe.
Just bought the game,i have;
4690K @4.4GHz
GTX 1070 OCd
16GB DDR3 2400MHz
Dell U2515H 1440p
At Ultra settings why GPU utilization is so poor?If it hits %95+ usage i can understand the low FPS but it's not fully using the GPU and it performs bad.
What is sweet spot settings for GTX 1070/1440p in terms of looks and performance?
4690K @4.4GHz
GTX 1070 OCd
16GB DDR3 2400MHz
Dell U2515H 1440p
At Ultra settings why GPU utilization is so poor?If it hits %95+ usage i can understand the low FPS but it's not fully using the GPU and it performs bad.
What is sweet spot settings for GTX 1070/1440p in terms of looks and performance?
Yes it isn't the current most powerful CPU out there but at 4.4GHz 4690K is pretty strong for gaming i think my issue is about game itself.
I don't know what happened but after some alt-tabbing GPU usage back to normal and i manage the get %99 GPU usage in benchmark and the result i got is on par with online result like TPU's.
My result. (GPU OCd)
dr_rus
Member
Tinúviel;233537794 said:
Something is interfering with the game then. Try exclusive / windowed fullscreen fisrt, then look for what may be running on the GPU as well (there's an option in NV's CPL Desktop menu) and try killing it off. Make sure that your driver settings are reset on defaults as well.
ISee
Member
The newest update ruined performance for me and a friend, we wanted to play co op today and the game has terrible stutter and performance is ~20% lower in general.
Just redid the Benchmark and my average fps went from 70 average / 63 min / 80 max to 55 average / 50 min / 64 max.
Well done Ubisoft, awesome patch!
Just redid the Benchmark and my average fps went from 70 average / 63 min / 80 max to 55 average / 50 min / 64 max.
Well done Ubisoft, awesome patch!
mine is the same. doesnt matter if I use gsync or cap at 30 i get hitches. with 1080ti and 6700k
I've pretty much conceded that the game performance is absolute garbage because nothing i do seems to fix the problem. What's even worse is that it has existed since the game launched.
I just discovered that RTSS 7.0.0 beta 25 has a frametime graph option so I turned that on and it showed the times where the game hitched and there was an associated spike in the frametime so I wonder what's the deal going with the frametimes and what can be done to fix it.
Sounds like hardware instability (the game loves both CPU and GPU resources). When I had my 6800K running at 4.3GHz, my PC would periodically crash when playing The Witcher 3 or Just Cause 3 but nothing else. Even stress tests would pass with flying colours. Eventually, I dropped down to 4.2GHz and haven't had any issues since... but not before thinking I'd isolated the PSU as the culprit and buying a new one.