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konrad77 · Mar 7, 2009

I really love westwoods Blade Runner and Revolutions "Beneath a steel sky", they really delivered on the atomphere. Bioshock was good, but not really cyberpunk. Except from Deus Ex 3 which one should you look forward to?

Are there any good games for Consoles (this generation or last generation)?

Lakitu · Mar 7, 2009

I know you're only looking for this gen or last gen, but there's only one.

SNATCHER

But apparently, Starbreeze are rumoured to be doing Syndicate and like you say, Deus Ex 3. I assume you've played the original, right? That's another classic.

konrad77 · Mar 7, 2009

I havent played the Deus Ex 1,2 nor System Shock I,II (which I really should).

Hows Deus Ex on Playstation?

I think Starbreeze new project is called "Red lime" and as you I also heard its Syndicate.

Durandal · Mar 7, 2009

"but there's only one."

I beg your pardon:

Dreamweb

Shadowrun [Genesis]

Neuromancer

Omikron

Ninja Kn1ght · Mar 7, 2009

konrad77 said:
I havent played the Deus Ex 1,2 nor System Shock I,II (which I really should).

Hows Deus Ex on Playstation?

I think Starbreeze new project is called "Red lime" and as you I also heard its Syndicate.

I've played Deus Ex on PS2 and while it's simplifed from the PC version in some ways (no limb specific damage, for example), and there's quite a lot of loading, it's still an awesome game.

StuBurns · Mar 7, 2009

I'm surprised System Shock 2 wasn't the first response.
Not console, but a definitive work in the cyperpunk genre.

Durandal · Mar 7, 2009

stuburns said:
I'm surprised System Shock 2 wasn't the first response.
Not console, but a definitive work in the cyperpunk genre.

Although it has Cyberware, its more of a sci-fi than cyberpunk game.

CiSTM · Mar 7, 2009

Didn't we just had this excat same thread not too long time ago ?

EDIT: Yes, we did. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346231

EDIT: Well that thread was a dud. Let's make this one better.

M°°nblade · Mar 7, 2009

Steampunk:

Bioshock
Fallout
Final Fantasy VI
Skies of Arcadia
Wild arms
Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura (PC)

Cyberpunk:

From wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cyberpunk_works#List_of_computer_and_video_games

Neuromancer (1988)
Snatcher (1988-1996)
Flashback (1992)
Syndicate (1993)
Syndicate Wars (1996)
Beneath a Steel Sky (1994)
Burn:Cycle (1994)
Hell: A Cyberpunk Thriller (1994)
System Shock (1994)
System Shock 2 (1999)
CyberMage: Darklight Awakening (1995)
Johnny Mnemonic: The Interactive Action Movie
Blade Runner (1997)
A.I. Wars: The Awakening (2000)
Deus Ex (2000)
Deus Ex: Invisible War (2003)
Uplink (2001)
Enter the Matrix (2003)
Dystopia (2005)
The Matrix Online (2005)
The Matrix: Path of Neo (2005)
System Rush (2005)
Shadowrun (2007)
Cyberpunk 2020

Others I can think of
Final Fantasy VII
Anachronox
Omikron
Ghost in the shell games
Shin megami tensei?

godofcookery · Mar 7, 2009

A really great one you would probably enjoy given the adventure slant of the first post is Bloodnet.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/bloodnet

its an old microprose adventure game, and I realize you asked for some modern console games, but they are really few and far between. This basically counts as a part of the Beneath a Steel Sky era of games. Other than the travesty that was Shadowrun, are there anything besides small elements of the genre in games nowadays? I guess you could kind of count Mirror's Edge as one. Given the CORP/ Runner theme... big stretch though. I cant really think of many from the last gen or this one worth mentioning, besides the ones mentioned already.

edit: weird. that wiki doesn't mention it at all...

edit edit: wow, this game got panned on some of those reviews, i recall liking it when i was younger, but i had high tolerance. yikes.

turk128 · Mar 7, 2009

http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/circuits-edge

konrad77 · Mar 7, 2009

Awesome cover.

leroy hacker · Mar 7, 2009

M°°nblade said:
Steampunk:

Bioshock
Fallout

What.

wikipedia said:
The term[steampunk] denotes works set in an era or world where steam power is still widely usedusually the 19th century, and often set in Victorian era Englandbut with prominent elements of either science fiction or fantasy

PepsimanVsJoe · Mar 7, 2009

Cyber Doll for the Import Saturn

http://www.segagagadomain.com/saturn7/cyberdoll.htm

Basically in the year 20XX a great flesh-eating virus, plague, or what-have-you threatens the earth. To counteract it man develops cybernetic reconstruction so everyone can trade in their old organs for brand-name ones. The rest of the story follows some dude with a troubled past as he fights freaks and solves crimes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82rj5dqFp2M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZiWJc70eJ4

The battle system is similar to Front Mission in that you have a variety of weapons at your disposal that work at different ranges. For most of these weapons you can target specific enemy bodyparts(and in doing so destroy their ability to move/use weapons/etc). Like Front Mission it's quite satisfying completely taking apart an enemy until their rendered helpless. As you can tell from the video the enemy designs are rather twisted. After each battle you get a couple of random parts of whoever you kill. Swapping these out improves your HP, DEF, STR, etc and you also get cash for buying weapons and healing items.

Oddly enough the intro is fully-voiced in English but otherwise it's a rather JP-friendly affair. Coupled with the complete lack of FAQs and it's rather difficult to make any progress. It's neat though I think.

So uh..there it is.

M°°nblade · Mar 7, 2009

leroy hacker said:
What.

I know.
There's no 'steam' driven technology but they do share the retro art design with lot's of bronze, tooth wheels, 19th century diving suites (dig daddies) and stuff like that.

Angelus Errare · Mar 7, 2009

FFVII is not something I would consider cyberpunk at all.

Masklinn · Mar 7, 2009

M°°nblade said:
I know.
There's no 'steam' driven technology but they do share the retro art design with lot's of bronze, tooth wheels, 19th century diving suites (dig daddies) and stuff like that.

Bioshock is debatable (and it's the 50s retros, which usually isn't considered "steampunk". It's not "cyberpunk" either of course), Fallout definitely not.

Joseph Merrick · Mar 7, 2009

http://www.mobygames.com/browse/games/cyberpunk-dark-sci-fi/

Anticitizen One · Mar 7, 2009

Last gen there were several good cyberpunk games including Deus Ex 1-2, Matrix:The Path of Neo, Metroid Prime 2, Jak 2, and for this gen Too Human.

Slightly off topic but would Fallout 3 be considered steampunk? It has a similar design to Bioshock and I noticed most are calling that Steampunk.

Neo C. · Mar 7, 2009

Sin and Punishment should be in this genre too.

Edit: I mean Cyberpunk.

Prime crotch · Mar 7, 2009

Masklinn said:
Bioshock is debatable (and it's the 50s retros, which usually isn't considered "steampunk". It's not "cyberpunk" either of course), Fallout definitely not.

The original Fallout titles could be considered steampunk, since technology evolved in a different way by transistors not having been created. But that's a broader meaning of steampunk.

Router · Mar 7, 2009

Need a new Ghost in the Shell. Something more like the PS1 games and less like the PS2 one.

bistromathics · Mar 7, 2009

It's PC, but Dystopia

TheChillyAcademic · Mar 7, 2009

It's PC....but System Shock

rollingstart · Mar 7, 2009

I've always wondered why no dev has tried to make an open world cyberpunk game, espcially after the boom of them. I'm sure most expected Shadowrun 360 to be that before we knew it was shooter, but no one else attempted it? really?

Sapiens · Mar 7, 2009

Oh, what I wouldn't give for a Snatcher remake on PSN/XB

Maximilian E. · Mar 7, 2009

Anticitizen One said:
Last gen there were several good cyberpunk games including Deus Ex 1-2, Matrix:The Path of Neo, Metroid Prime 2, Jak 2, and for this gen Too Human.

wat??

Gattsu25 · Mar 7, 2009

If you're looking for a good cyberpunk game and are limited to consoles...hmm...I dunno...Deus Ex (PS2) and Deus Ex 2 (Xbox) are probably your best bets.

OP, you see all the PC game mentions? That should tell you something.

OokieSpookie · Mar 7, 2009

Sapiens said:
Oh, what I wouldn't give for a Snatcher remake on PSN/XB

I could agree, also I would kill for a real Shadowrun game this gen in rpg style instead of the series murdering that we ended up with.

Also since Dues Ex, Snatcher, Omikron and System Shock were mentioned I will throw in a personal favorite BloodNet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BloodNet

http://www.mobygames.com/game/bloodnet

Camwi · Mar 7, 2009

Anticitizen One said:
Last gen there were several good cyberpunk games including Deus Ex 1-2, Matrix:The Path of Neo, Metroid Prime 2, Jak 2, and for this gen Too Human.

Slightly off topic but would Fallout 3 be considered steampunk? It has a similar design to Bioshock and I noticed most are calling that Steampunk.

No offense or anything, but do you know what "cyberpunk" is?

Haeleos · Mar 7, 2009

CyberMage: Darklight Awakening! You could even do a LTTP on it, and as apposed to the 100s of God of War and Shadow of the Colossus ones no one clicks on, it might be interesting to read.

konrad77 · Mar 8, 2009

I dont know if you guys remember the small swedish studio, tarsier games. They are developing a cool steram punk game called, City of metronome (or atleast they did).

Now they are working on a Ragdoll kung-fu:Fists of plastic for Playstation Netowork.

If they deliver hopefully Sony will let them continue on City of Metronome.

Jonsoncao · Mar 8, 2009

well Bioshock is more steampunk than cyber-ish sth sth

ZombieSupaStar · Mar 8, 2009

CiSTM said:
Didn't we just had this excat same thread not too long time ago ?

EDIT: Yes, we did. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346231

EDIT: Well that thread was a dud. Let's make this one better.

mine was better, good list in it

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=182168

ZombieSupaStar said:
Im trying to get a list of cyberpunk games (setting) here is what I have so far

A Mind Forever Voyaging
AI Wars
Anachronox
Anarchy Online
Beneath a Steel Sky
Bioforge
Blade Runner
BloodNet
Burn:Cycle
Chaos Overlords
Cybermage : Dark Awakening
Deus Ex
Deus Ex: IW
Devastation
Dreamweb
Dystopia
Enter the Matrix
Final Fantasy 7 (cyberpunk early, then steampunk)
Flashback
Hacker
Hell
I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream
Megami Tensei
Messiah
Neocron
Neuromancer
Omikron
Oni
Rez
Rise of the Dragon
Restricted Area
Shadowrun (SNES,GEN, SEGA CD)
Snatcher
Syndicate
System Shock
The Matrix: Path of Neo
Uplink

anything else anyone can think of (I guess im just looking for games to play and im sick of slaying the dragon...)

edit: updated list

Grimmy · Mar 8, 2009

turk128 said:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/circuits-edge

Holy crap! It's been years since I played this!

AgentOtaku · Mar 8, 2009

I <3 this thread!

Metal Gear?! · Mar 8, 2009

Bioshock is basically the cyberpunk System Shock 2 transposed to a steampunk setting, complete with "hacking" security systems and turrets, so it sorta counts.

AppleBlade · Mar 8, 2009

The city Midgar in Final Fantasy VII had a very cyberpunk feel to it. I wish Square would do an game set entirely in that city, it's my all time favorite video game city. Here are some screenshots of midgar.

crisis-core-final-fantasy-vii-20080229104429033_640w.jpg

MightyKAC · Mar 8, 2009

Ummm.... guys hate to break it to ya but Bioshock falls pretty squarely under the BIOPUNK genre.....

Gattsu25 · Mar 8, 2009

MightyKAC said:
Ummm.... guys hate to break it to ya but Bioshock falls pretty squarely under the BIOPUNK genre.....

Cyberpunk was cool, steampunk is and was restupid...it was only a matter of time that someone made up a bullshit biopunk or marinepunk genre

You Own Link said:
Biopunk science fiction is a sub-genre of cyberpunk fiction

So your link states that Bioshock is still Cyberpunk...curiouser and curiouser

MightyKAC · Mar 8, 2009

Gattsu25 said:
Cyberpunk was cool, steampunk is and was restupid...it was only a matter of time that someone made up a bullshit biopunk or marinepunk genreSo your link states that Bioshock is still Cyberpunk...curiouser and curiouser

It's bullshit why? Because its new? And that makes it less legitimate as a sci-fi Genre HOW?

And also, FYI SUB Genre =/= SAME genre although. I'll grant you that its an offshoot, too many differing elements exist.

AppleBlade · Mar 8, 2009

MightyKAC said:
Ummm.... guys hate to break it to ya but Bioshock falls pretty squarely under the BIOPUNK genre.....

Did you read the wiki article you linked? Because if you did you would've caught this little remark . . . "Biopunk science fiction is a sub-genre of cyberpunk fiction." Regardless, Cyberpunk, Steampunk, and Biopunk are all very closely related. Many of them deal with Dystopia's and many are set in gritty worlds.

Angelus Errare · Mar 8, 2009

MrVargas said:
The city Midgar in Final Fantasy VII had a very cyberpunk feel to it. I wish Square would do an game set entirely in that city, it's my all time favorite video game city. Here are some screenshots of midgar.

Man they barely used electricity in FFVII, hell mostly everything was steam powered....or materia powered.

FFVII is much cyberpunk as Yakuza is steampunk.

neight · Mar 8, 2009

M°°nblade said:
I know.
There's no 'steam' driven technology but they do share the retro art design with lot's of bronze, tooth wheels, 19th century diving suites (dig daddies) and stuff like that.

Art Deco =! Steampunk.

Twig · Mar 8, 2009

Gattsu25 said:
Cyberpunk was cool, steampunk is and was restupid...it was only a matter of time that someone made up a bullshit biopunk or marinepunk genre

So your link states that Bioshock is still Cyberpunk...curiouser and curiouser

Steampunk is a legitimate genre. As is biopunk, as long as there are books, movies, or games that actually fit the definition.

You're stupid!!!

Also, punk is punk. Cyber is not steam is not... bio. Technically steampunk is an "offshoot" of cyberpunk as well. The similarities pretty much begin and end with the word "punk" which really isn't that hard to figure out if you actually read into it. Or just think a little.

You basically sound like a little kid who's pissed he has to learn new things. "Languages evolving?! NOT ON MY WATCH!"

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Scrow · Mar 8, 2009

i consider bioshock steampunk

M°°nblade · Mar 8, 2009

neight said:
Art Deco =! Steampunk.

Fine, whatever, bioshock= Artdecopunk and biopunk.

Reilly · Mar 8, 2009

Too bad the game isn't very good.

neight · Mar 8, 2009

M°°nblade said:
Fine, whatever, bioshock= Artdecopunk and biopunk.

Art Deco is a architecture style not a genre. Some people are associating Bioshock's art deco with steampunk for some reason.

Speevy · Mar 8, 2009

What category does Phantom Dust fit into?

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