Not to mention the obvious aliasing on the board in the third row, even on these tiny pictures.
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Okay, TeamCG. Come own up to your foolishness. #trolljima
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Saint Gregory
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The craziest thing about all this is that I'm almost sure that the great granddaddy of all carnival of stupid threads was started by another Kojima viral marketing campaign (wasn't it Metal Gear Solid Soda or something?) yet we keep falling for this stuff again and again.
But the lighting is pretty damn good.
bigboss370
Member
people have to understand, that "advanced tech" in the Ground Zeroes trailer is not something out of place. The Metal Gear universe always has had technology and timeline that is more advanced than the real world, but that also reflects the future of what the real world may eventually have.
the soliton radar was invented by Mei Ling, but the tech existed even before that. in Peace Walker, Big Boss's group developed something similar, and that was before the events of ground zeroes.
also, by your theory it makes no sense whatsoever that Chico would be in the Ground Zeroes trailer.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
PW has a Soliton Radar, for example. And the picture of it looks like the one showed in GZ trailer. So I wouldn't use it as proof of tech that souldn't be there.
bigboss370
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DecoyOctopus
Member
"If you take this at face value, it seems probable that Big Boss is in a coma, undergoing VR 'therapy'. It might explain a lot of questions about MGS: Ground Zeroes, like why we saw images of Old and Young Snake, the presence of the high-tech iDroid map device in the game's mooted 1970s setting and those mysterious flashing lights - best explained in 'The Swoosh Code Conspiracy', where we previously made the link to a form of VR training, or some device that allows you to skip between time periods."
"If all the clues are correct, The Phantom Pain goes one step further. Big Boss is in a coma, unable to escape his own subconscious and subjected to VR training. What is real? What is fake? Big Boss (or Snake) can't discern, and neither can we. In fact, there's an entire marketing campaign built around blurring those boundaries. Moby Dick Studio and Joakim Mogren might be 'fake', but under Kojima's control."
Joakim is the Patriots AI. Raiden was sent with a game decoy in rising to infiltrate the Playstation Network. What Raiden found is given below.
Example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLiX5d3rC6o
Red Pill all the way!!!
Example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLiX5d3rC6o
Red Pill all the way!!!
iDotDotDot
Member
I was wondering why no one mentioned that video.
Can't wait till wednesday for Based Kojima to unveil the truth
-Pyromaniac-
Member
the video was mentioned a ton of times in this comically large thread
Okay, nevermind, I'm not alrigt. I wasn't even first.
bigboss370
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Portugeezer
Member
Yeah it is, but there's a reason the pictures are tiny.
Did they ever release a bigger version of this pic?
Always-honest
Banned
Posted bout a billion times. And great that you think this is about Joakim levels of realism.
I know right. Maybe someone will post the Audrey Hepburn one to further prove how CG Joakim is.
Zomba13
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DecoyOctopus
Member
You're all right
- if -> TeamCG 
If this is true then why don't the burned man and Big Boss have the same voice actor?
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Adding this to the insane/probable theory: - Big Boss hallucinating about Dr Kio Marv whom he kidnapped and used for his own purposes.
You're all right- if -> TeamCG
If this is true then why don't the burned man and Big Boss have the same voice actor?
Damaged vocal cords? ;p
PLASTICA-MAN
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Do you know what I think about the whole Ground Zeroes , The Phantom Pain, Fromx FOX two phantoms were born and the FOX Engine?
I think Ground Zeroes was built with current-gen version of the FOX Engine, but The Phantom Pain was developed with the next-gen version of the Fox Engine in mind but was shown at the VGAs with the current-gen version of the engine just to check people's impression about the concept first and then fool them and wow them with the new graphics, hence we will be having a trailer for Ground Zeroes and a trailer for The Phantom Pain both made by Kojima. It is totally typical of him. (When developing MGS2, they staretd by rebuilding MGS1 areas and models with MGS2's engine so they can train themselves with the new engine. Someday it led to MGS The Twin Snakes and Shadow Moses redone in MGS4). It would be funny to see the bandaged man aka Joakim Mogren (or maybe injured Grey Fox after MG2) mocking the old game engine by showing some pics of it while the next version of him started a war of dementia here).
I think Ground Zeroes was built with current-gen version of the FOX Engine, but The Phantom Pain was developed with the next-gen version of the Fox Engine in mind but was shown at the VGAs with the current-gen version of the engine just to check people's impression about the concept first and then fool them and wow them with the new graphics, hence we will be having a trailer for Ground Zeroes and a trailer for The Phantom Pain both made by Kojima. It is totally typical of him. (When developing MGS2, they staretd by rebuilding MGS1 areas and models with MGS2's engine so they can train themselves with the new engine. Someday it led to MGS The Twin Snakes and Shadow Moses redone in MGS4). It would be funny to see the bandaged man aka Joakim Mogren (or maybe injured Grey Fox after MG2) mocking the old game engine by showing some pics of it while the next version of him started a war of dementia here).
You're all right- if -> TeamCG
If this is true then why don't the burned man and Big Boss have the same voice actor?
If you inhale smoke it can damage your vocal cords. I can only imagine what it does to someone who was burnt alive.
Also, to those saying the theory doesn't make sense since Chico is in the GZ trailer - it's VR. Big Boss is being put through an exercise in which he is being tested on how well he'd still react to a situation like that.
Maybe the taboo of Ground Zeroes/Phantom Pain isn't just child soldiers, but a very serious overlook of experimentation on soldiers with PTSD.
I facebook search Joakim Mogren and in the group, this picture was showing..
Looks CG.
Gouda Jouji
Member
Adding this to the insane/probable theory: - Big Boss hallucinating about Dr Kio Marv whom he kidnapped and used for his own purposes.
That guy being Kio Marv would be a huge retcon, but it is Kojima I guess.
Indeed, his hair shouldn't be grey either.
DecoyOctopus
Member
Adding this to the insane/probable theory: - Big Boss hallucinating about Dr Kio Marv whom he kidnapped and used for his own purposes.
Has to be a dream because Marv don't speak no English
Makes...sense!! Another possibility: a microchip on his larynx!
LOL I love Face Off.
Graphics Horse
Member
It's already been done in Darkness II anyway!
bigboss370
Member
Oh shit, Team Marv must be right then!
I don't care if this is debunked, what you just described is awesome and it sounds entirely plausible. It sounds like I would be an awesome game.
Bravo, sir.
Relaxed Muscle
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But the japanese voice is still Snake voice instead of the Big Boss voice in MGS4 (which is the real father of Akio Ōtsuka).
Also what's the deal of the plot, after reviving all his memories on VR he wakes up to send a message to Snake and die 15 min later?
DouglasteR
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BEWARE, a 9 men squad of tatical ninjas has just left Tokyo, i would run if i were you !
I always knew you was the Kojima betrayer !!!
Is that Commander Shepard?
HAHAHAHAHAHA Now it all makes sense!
Rickenslacker
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After 2 wasn't there a VR theory for every MGS game that came out since? I remember the idea of 3 being a VR mission, then the Old Snake/Young Snake footage seen in 4 being VR. Considering the VR representation in the games always being very simple visually, I don't think it'll be the case.
POWERSPHERE
Banned
Joke Em. Keighley is CG.
Haven't played MGS4?
bigboss370
Member
I have. What was retconned? don't mention
Big Boss
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
Å
Åesop
Unconfirmed Member
It can't be debunked until the game is out. There are no holes in my theory. Nanomachines, son.