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CrunchinJelly · Jun 14, 2013

Just heard about this from the Bombcast and it's a super bummer that this game still has the same 8 way movement from 3D Land.

Why would Nintendo do this? Why not allow full analogue control?

Ninjimbo · Jun 14, 2013

Because the game plays great.

SuperAndroid17 · Jun 14, 2013

Is that why people were complaining about "non-fluid" controls like galaxy?

wow that sucks ass

magnetic · Jun 14, 2013

I guess it's for those more 2D-ish sections, so you can easier run in straight lines.

DaBoss · Jun 14, 2013

Because it worked fine in 3D Land and is pretty much more precise IMO.

You would barely notice it in 3D Land.

ffdgh · Jun 14, 2013

No problem for me but I won't say it's right.

Randdalf · Jun 14, 2013

CrunchinJelly said:
Just heard about this from the Bombcast and it's a super bummer that this game still has the same 8 way movement from 3D Land.

Why would Nintendo do this? Why not allow full analogue control?

I guess it's because of the level design.

thetrin · Jun 14, 2013

Good. It makes walking straight lines easier. 100% okay with this.

chickdigger802 · Jun 14, 2013

For lines. And the game also supports wiimote I think.

EloquentM · Jun 14, 2013

To this very day I still don't understand the complaints about this.

Visualante2 · Jun 14, 2013

More ammunition for the argument that this is a 3DS up port

thetrin said:
Good. It makes walking straight lines easier. 100% okay with this.

I've not felt this way about a 3D platformer since I played Croc on the PlayStation.

Mileena · Jun 14, 2013

Randdalf said:
I guess it's because of the level design.

to make it easier? probably

CLEEK · Jun 14, 2013

CrunchinJelly said:
Just heard about this from the Bombcast and it's a super bummer that this game still has the same 8 way movement from 3D Land.

Why would Nintendo do this? Why not allow full analogue control?

Surely that was obvious? How else could the players 2-4 control it with a Wiimote if it required analogue controls?

kittens · Jun 14, 2013

This is not at all what I wanted out of a new console 3D Mario. :-(

Baller. PhD · Jun 14, 2013

I played 3D Land to completion and I didn't even know this was a thing.

Non-issue.

DeleteMyAccountThankyou · Jun 14, 2013

Walking in straight lines with analog is doable but annoying, I'll take this happily.

soulx · Jun 14, 2013

kittens said:
This is not at all what I wanted out of a new console 3D Mario. :-(

Hell I would have even took Galaxy 3 over this.

Sapiens · Jun 14, 2013

CrunchinJelly said:
Just heard about this from the Bombcast and it's a super bummer that this game still has the same 8 way movement from 3D Land.

Why would Nintendo do this? Why not allow full analogue control?

Does it use the run button as well?

Oh well.

Anteo · Jun 14, 2013

Im ok with this. 3d land pkayed great becausr of this. Plus the number of ppsible angles varied from stage to stage

Neiteio · Jun 14, 2013

It worked extremely well in 3D Land. Something about it was super-tight and precise, and the levels seemed perfectly suited to it. I have no worries about it here. If there's one thing Nintendo gets right, it's controls.

jetjevons · Jun 14, 2013

CrunchinJelly said:
Why would Nintendo do this? Why not allow full analogue control?

Its dinky little 3DS originated diorama levels don't need it.

outunderthestars · Jun 14, 2013

As unhappy as I am with 3D world, I don't see the control as being an issue.

ElementalMage · Jun 14, 2013

This is just what I wanted.

I am done with the galaxy look for awhile. People complain when nintendo rehashes?

a third game like galaxy is a rehash right now

Jaruru · Jun 14, 2013

Baller said:
I played 3D Land to completion and I didn't even know this was a thing.

Non-issue.

Right

Tailer · Jun 14, 2013

magnetic said:
I guess it's for those more 2D-ish sections, so you can easier run in straight lines.

Yeah its not like the Wii U has a D-pad or anything.

Madness · Jun 14, 2013

This is what I meant with my comparison post when I showed Sunshine, Galaxy and then 3D World. Someone said it looks so better, but I said it's limited.

There isn't open world, free movement.

I love Nintendo but anyone can see how they're limiting themselves with their games. I think it's just because they are pretty far behind in terms of the scope/scale required of massive AAA games.

How is playing in small segmented areas a step up from the massive world's of Sunshine and Galaxy?

Jamix012 · Jun 14, 2013

Visualante2 said:
More ammunition for the argument that this is a 3DS up port

How? Doesn't the 3DS have potential for full analogue control?

finalboss2 · Jun 14, 2013

because all of the rumors of it being 3d land 2 bumped to wii u are true

PumpkinPie · Jun 14, 2013

thetrin said:
Good. It makes walking straight lines easier. 100% okay with this.

Yeah, but the Wii U gamepad already has the octagonal analog stick surround to aid with straight lines.

I've never really noticed it in 3D Land tbh though.

SirPenguin · Jun 14, 2013

Baller said:
I played 3D Land to completion and I didn't even know this was a thing.

Non-issue.

hah, same. If anything, I was impressed with how seamless the frequent 3D to 2D transitions were, and I guess this is why!

Meelow · Jun 14, 2013

It supports Pro Controller as well.

GAF A60-Rim A · Jun 14, 2013

Do people just want 360 degree movement out of principle or what?

Foffy · Jun 14, 2013

I hope you don't have to hold Y to run. ):

Carpe Libertatem · Jun 14, 2013

Madness said:
This is what I meant with my comparison post when I showed Sunshine, Galaxy and then 3D World. Someone said it looks so better, but I said it's limited.

There isn't open world, free movement.

I love Nintendo but anyone can see how they're limiting themselves with their games. I think it's just because they are pretty far behind in terms of the scope/scale required of massive AAA games.

How is playing in small segmented areas a step up from the massive world's of Sunshine and Galaxy?

3D World will probably have as much "open world, free movement" as the Galaxy games did (especially 2)

DaBoss · Jun 14, 2013

GAF A60-Rim A said:
Do people just want 360 degree movement out of principle or what?

Not sure, I don't really understand it either since it worked perfectly fine in 3D Land and makes more sense for platformers.

Foffy said:
I hope you don't have to hold Y to run. ):

Yes you do.

walking fiend · Jun 14, 2013

CrunchinJelly said:
Just heard about this from the Bombcast and it's a super bummer that this game still has the same 8 way movement from 3D Land.

Why would Nintendo do this? Why not allow full analogue control?

Because wiimote only has directional buttons.

Ushojax · Jun 14, 2013

The game is designed around it so it's not a problem for me. Nor is a run button.

Branduil · Jun 14, 2013

ElementalMage said:
This is just what I wanted.

I am done with the galaxy look for awhile. People complain when nintendo rehashes?

a third game like galaxy is a rehash right now

I don't think people wanted MG 3 as much as they wanted something "new."

Visualante2 · Jun 14, 2013

SirPenguin said:
hah, same. If anything, I was impressed with how seamless the frequent 3D to 2D transitions were, and I guess this is why!

You know what game also did seamless transitions? Mario Galaxy.

Tangeroo · Jun 14, 2013

soulx said:
Hell I would have even took Galaxy 3 over this.

Your sense of sacrifice is tremendous.

Schnozberry · Jun 14, 2013

GAF A60-Rim A said:
Do people just want 360 degree movement out of principle or what?

Another non issue for people to get apoplectic about. It's just what we do here.

Foffy · Jun 14, 2013

DaBoss said:
Yes you do.

Oh what the fuck.

StreetsAhead · Jun 14, 2013

Visualante2 said:
More ammunition for the argument that this is a 3DS up port

finalboss2 said:
because all of the rumors of it being 3d land 2 bumped to wii u are true

This is reaching.

dimb · Jun 14, 2013

Gotta support that Wii remote.

Solid SOAP · Jun 14, 2013

Why is this a problem? The previous Nintendo controllers all had the analogue input where the pad is, so now they're accommodating for it in the controls. The games are all clearly made with it in mind, why is it an issue now?

Papercuts · Jun 14, 2013

Sapiens said:
Does it use the run button as well?

Oh well.

It does.

Nerokis · Jun 14, 2013

GAF A60-Rim A said:
Do people just want 360 degree movement out of principle or what?

I think it's more that this implies certain things about the overall design, and it's jarring against usual expectations of what a 3D Mario constitutes.

This news isn't surprising, though, given what we knew about 3D World already.

jetjevons · Jun 14, 2013

Carpe Libertatem said:
3D World will probably have as much "open world, free movement" as the Galaxy games did (especially 2)

Horseshit. You're thinking of the small meteor to meteor Galaxy levels. Not the big open fully explorable Mario 64 style levels.

Sir Ilpalazzo · Jun 14, 2013

I don't see the problem. If this kind of control scheme is what the game is designed around, what's the big deal?

walking fiend · Jun 14, 2013

Ushojax said:
The game is designed around it so it's not a problem for me. Nor is a run button.

My left wrist is broken, but I managed to outrun two other guys playing at a BB demo station, just cause I knew how to run

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