And people laughed at me when I said the kinect would use natural language proccessing online. Thanks for the clarification. Out of curiosity, will "the cloud" parts require Xbox live Gold?
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Only 5 countries will have full Xbone voice commands at launch [Update in OP]
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And people laughed at me when I said the kinect would use natural language proccessing online. Thanks for the clarification. Out of curiosity, will "the cloud" parts require Xbox live Gold?
freefornow
Gold Member
I lol'd hard at "Collar Doody"
Caayn
Member
Thanks for the clarification.
(thanks Garrett 2U)
First, people should understand I dont always know every detail happening with the program. Even though I run Product Planning (I'm not in PR!), that means we set the stage early for the features and HW, but a lot happens going through the development process. I stay very close as we approach launch, but I dont always know the specifics when things change, so sometimes (frequently) I have to ask someone on the team. I also dont run PR or Marketing, so I dont see every piece of material that makes it to the public. In this case, there was an inconsistency between some small print on Xbox.com, and what I understood was happening so I went to get more details.
Turns out the answer to this question is complicated. Its been an education for me as Ive been looking into it.
There is no way that I could do justice to it in a post, so the marketing team is working on a chart that gives clarity on what locales, languages, and voice features are available in each country. Trying to write it down would be confusing. Stay tuned for a more detailed explanation, but just to give clarity:
In November
- We will launch in 13 geos
- 10 of those geos will support some voice features
- We support 8 languages
The 8 Languages at Launch are:
1) English US
2) English GB (WW)
3) French
4) Spanish MX
5) Spanish ES
6) Italian
7) German
8) Portuguese
NOW the nuance to this is that some voice *features* wont be available in all countries right away. Xbox On, for instance, is only available in 5 (hence the confusion on Xbox.com in the small print).
BigDug13 the FAQ is correct, for launch. When you choose a language for your console, you will be offered the list of countries it is supported in. Using your example, if you choose Italy as your language, you only get Italian. We will continue to add more supported combinations over time. For example in Canada we will support English and French. The opportunity to mix-and-match languages and countries is something were looking to do post-launch.
Again, sorry for all the confusion on this. Look for a more detailed explanation coming. Will most likely come through Xbox Wire, or Xbox.com.
Does this mean that the dashboard/system language can be set to a different language from the locale. Like we currently can on the Xbox 360?
dragonbane
Member
Sounds good. You are really doing a good job. MS should clone you
Wickerbasket
Member
Does that mean that the voice features won't work if you aren't connected to Live?
level_e11even
Banned
I made fun of the part where he categorically denied the assumption of a poster, only to then detail that the assumption was correct albeit with minor differences. Nothing against the post.
The PR speak is indeed confusing at times. I wish Albert worked there.
LMAO
lol
This made me laugh. How hard can it be to add the word 'on' in 11 different languages?
Chobel
Member
Some of them will. <tinfoil hat> And you need gold for that </tinfoil hat>
Theonik
Member
"Xbox One cannot be turned on in 8 of the 13 launch countries" get Kotaku on the phone.
BRocknRolla
Member
NullPointer
Member
Australian testing was fine until the "XBOX, play Maroon 5" stage.
maplelord93
Banned
other than xbox play this or xbox on, most voice features have to do with either in game features or going on xbox live searching through the market place or browsing the web?
Albert Penello
Member
Some of the sophisticated voice search strings (think catalog searching for music or movies) will only work online. We can't locally store the name of every movie, actor, director, genre, etc.
Wickerbasket
Member
Thanks for the reply, that makes sense.
Dead Prince
Banned
time to ask google for help.
Angelus Errare
Banned
I would think "Xbox On" would be one of the commands I made sure work for every supported language right off the bat.
Chobel
Member
Does it need Xbox live gold to do this stuff?
fastford58
Member
Makes sense.
I'm interested in their SDLC approach. Normally, in my experience, these things are meticulously analyzed in the most early phases, and tested extensively at the unit/module level, and as a whole. No way would this issue would just spring up. If it did, I would assume rushed development.
There is actually a good amount of time to get a lot of change requests in before they go live. It's crazy what people can put out during "crunch time", especially when jobs are on the line.
There is actually a good amount of time to get a lot of change requests in before they go live. It's crazy what people can put out during "crunch time", especially when jobs are on the line.
Lambda Pie
Banned
i love the fact that it supports portuguese but we're not even a tier 2 country. piss off, MS.
Lol considering how many simple things (Netflix, Youtube, IE, Crackle, etc) are locked behind XBL Gold I'm going to assume the answer is yes.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
It's not like Microsoft has had any chance with xbox in Portugal, or that they even tried to.
Quadraphonic
Member
User: "Xbox On!"
Xbox powers up
Xbox: "To use voice activation, please sign into an Xbox Live Gold account. Goodbye!"
Xbox powers down
Caayn
Member
Why would it? You can do that with silver on the current Xbox 360.
reptilescorpio
Member
Why does English get broken up into US/UK but us Australians get left out in the cold. Damn Americans get all the attention. Could have supported 9 languages.
Penguins&PolarBears
Member
BS.
The original Kinect launch was exactly the same way. I don't think this behavior is anything new for Microsoft:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-voice-recognition-disabled-until-spring-2011
Deja vu.
This is not unusual for Microsoft, this is exactly how Microsoft always works. If you are familiar with Bing, Windows Phone, Xbox video/music, etc. they always are slow to roll out services to the rest of the world. If you consider this "messy" and "not ready" then Microsoft is always "messy" and "not ready."
Albert Penello
Member
No, it does not.
Doomshroom
Member
So why the hell does Xbox on only work in 5 countries? i'm no sound engineer or anything but just record the damn voices.
To be perfectly honest, that's not terribly far from the mark.
EDIT:
Gracias señor.
Chobel
Member
Thanks for the answer.
PJV3
Member
You're getting a shiny official one from MS.
Well from Albert, he should go for Balmers job.
NullPointer
Member
Hehe, its probably a LOT more complicated than that ;P
But your heart is in the right place.
Yeah Albert , just record the damn voices....
I mean, I'm not sound engineer, but can't you just squeeze Steve Ballmer inside the cloud and have him translate voice commands to keystrokes 24/7?
phosphor112
Banned
Lol.
Come on now. Even MS should understand how to retain functionality going from 1.0 to 2.0
Which, incidentally, is also supposed to be a particular benefit of the cloud...
What functionality hasn't been retained?
Albert Penello
Member
I'll be at PAX of Friday, and I'm at the UW Microsoft store tonight for Major's meet-up.
If "Xbox on" is only supported in 5 countries, you might as well deduce that voice recognition will only be supported in 5 countries as the OP (and thus Microsoft's own website) says, because if it can't get something THAT basic and simple it won't get anything.
It really is not "complicated" and there's nothing to "understand" (pulling an Iwata and Square in the same post. Nice.)
It really is not "complicated" and there's nothing to "understand" (pulling an Iwata and Square in the same post. Nice.)
BRocknRolla
Member
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Incredible how you come to the conclusion that they're not ready, and spin it as a good thing. Then again, power of the cloud, everyone has internet access and whatnot, right?
Did you read Alberts recent posts that stuff like "Xbox, go to Ryse" works in all 8 languages?
We'll know more later when that chart arrives.
Why not just wait for the chart before making blanket statements?
Penguins&PolarBears
Member
Fair enough, I would be pissed if I had to wait for service features in other countries. My anger would only be tempered by knowing the amount of time I have to wait for those features. If it's a few months it's disappointing, but not a big deal, if it's a year or more then I would be pretty angry.
I don't like the implication on either end that Microsoft didn't know this was going to happen again (yeah right). How many times can Microsoft do something like this before you begin to realize it's not an accident?
I believe you failed to understand anything I was saying. They're "ready," this is what "ready" looks like at Microsoft if you are familiar with their history of product releases and services.
They said the same thing for the netherlands..it never came. Not did i bother to buy kinect but promising something 3 years ago and still not here is to me huge false promise.