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Only 5 countries will have full Xbone voice commands at launch [Update in OP]
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Are you seriously kidding me right now? All your comment does is confirm exactly what I said. You're simply suggesting this is a PATTERN, and my response would merely be it may be a pattern, but that doesn't change the fact that for a console launch this can only be defined as "messy" and "not ready."
The opposite of 'not ready' would be 'completely ready', and that means no features missing in some territories, no cutting launch countries by half.
Nokterian said:
Don't worry, they'll be ready one day
And do you think that makes any sense? Especially since "XBON ON" has been working in Spanish with Kinect 1 (which is supposedly far inferior to Kinect 2) for a while. Really?
NoirVisage
Banned
except they didn't claim this was a reason for the console NOT being released in those regions..
Albert Penello
Member
In this case though, it was confusion around some small print on a webpage.
Some folks here just like to give MS a hard time over small stuff and even false information (yield problems). I'm sure you're recognizing a pattern.
While I'm glad Australia is one of the launch countries (finally), its becoming increasingly clear to me that Microsoft most likely actually wanted to launch this console next year, under the assumption the 360 would still be selling like a truck.
The combination of Sony having their powder dry and all current gen sales dropping off a cliff has really caught them on the hop.
The concern for me personally is that somehow we early adopters are going to get screwed. Oh well, wait and see I guess.
The combination of Sony having their powder dry and all current gen sales dropping off a cliff has really caught them on the hop.
The concern for me personally is that somehow we early adopters are going to get screwed. Oh well, wait and see I guess.
Usual Suspect
Member
This is a far greater problem.
Back then, if you lived in Europe, you could simply abstain from buying the Kinetic as you knew that it was limited in functions.
But now, in countries aside from 5, you are buying a console for FULL price and not get all is functions and can only hope that MS doesn´t take to long to add them to your countrie.
Wouldn´t be fair to consumers to only release in those 5?
Penguins&PolarBears
Member
And their reasoning I'm sure is that you still get Kinect-enabled games day one. You still get Skype video chat. You still get Kinect gesture control. You still get the Kinect's IR-blaster capabilities to control your TV. You still get Upload studio voice/video capture. And eventually you will get voice control.
Are you seriously kidding me right now? All your comment does is confirm exactly what I said. You're simply suggesting this is a PATTERN, and my response would merely be it may be a pattern, but that doesn't change the fact that for a console launch this can only be defined as "messy" and "not ready."
The opposite of 'not ready' would be 'completely ready', and that means no features missing in some territories, no cutting launch countries by half.
Don't worry, they'll be ready one day
Not confirming what you said at all.
Microsoft has never launched a consumer product or service completely ready. If you're ever expecting that to happen you have unrealistic expectations.
Being realistic they could do only two things: Either release the console without voice support everywhere and hold the voice feature off for a year from now or longer (probably longer) or release the console with voice support in their top selling markets and slowly roll out voice support features to the rest of the world. There was never realistically a scenario on day one where every country had voice support. Microsoft probably will never admit that, but it should be obvious by now based upon what they've done in the past.
^And this is exactly why I'm making a point of this. People who think like the above poster don't understand how Microsoft thinks. Australia is a smaller market so the priority of voice support is lower down on their priority list. There is no doubt that Microsoft planned to launch this console in 2013. If you interpret one of their services or features not being ready for launch as them rushing the launch of the console then you don't understand how often Microsoft makes decisions like this. It wouldn't matter if the console came out in 2014, 2015, 2016 there'd be features in the US version that are not in other countries no matter when they launch.
Delusibeta
Banned
I'm still scratching my head over "Xbox On" only working in five territories and four of the languages when (as I understand it) the Kinect 1 understands that phrase in all eight languages listed. I'm inclined to call BS, to be honest here.
NullPointer
Member
Not that's a new console box quote if I've ever seen one.
Or the opposite of a box quote. Whatever that is.
NoirVisage
Banned
you must have an anti MS agenda, your inclinations can't possibly be based on common sense.
Kinect 2.0 is so advanced that it doesn't care for basic commands and will only accept conversations about philosophy or art.
Delusibeta
Banned
a) it's already works in the Kinect 1, it should therefore be easy to make it work with the Kinect 2, b) I would expect that the "turn console on" command would have been the first command to be implemented, tbh.
you can't turn xbox on with kinect 1, and it's probably a legal/regulations issue with leaving the console on and listening in a low power state
XtremeXpider
Member
I guess "Xbox On" command is a "special" command because it must works in low power state. If it is saved on the Kinect itself (some rom chip), maybe it requires a firmware update.
The low-powered state isn't dependent on the Kinect...
You can still wake the Xbone up from the low-powered state with a controller.
What cases?
Delusibeta
Banned
My bad, apologies. Still, the second point stands.
I'm sure they were aiming for 2013 but they thought they would have no competition, I.e. they thought as most people did that we wouldn't see the PS4 until 2014. MS seriously underestimated Sony and has been playing catch up since February. Nearly all the u turns and reversals have been in response to Sony. They were even sticking to the DRM until Sony destroyed them at E3.
Think how differently the XB1 would have played out this year without the PS4 being announced.
XtremeXpider
Member
Yes, but the "wake up" from a controller not implies a voice recognition process, it is only a signal from the receptor.
NullPointer
Member
MS is ready but NSA is still hiring translators.
BRocknRolla
Member
Yes, a voice recognition process that you would think would be of high priority to have done( also relatively easy to implement...).
If I'm not mistaken, it was actually the first (or one of the first) Kinect functions that MS showed off during the Xbone unveiling.
Weird that they wouldn't have that done, but have other voice commands done for other languages.
Zatoichi's Cane
Member
Jesus, what a mess!
Why not wait a couple of months and nail things down then release the damned thing?
There is an announcement/correction/clarification/chart being released for this thing on an almost weekly basis.
Why not wait a couple of months and nail things down then release the damned thing?
There is an announcement/correction/clarification/chart being released for this thing on an almost weekly basis.
tensuke
Member
That would be really interesting. It has to be CRAZY right now with all the 180s, so much is being changed or discarded for the time being.
Dead Prince
Banned
Theres 3 months left. just give them time to work so the xbox one launch will be a smooth experience for all.
i agree, this stuff is going to be pretty high in priority, and very subject to change. may as well hold off with absolute numbers before something formal is complete.
Yep, Albert agreed with another poster that the DRM reversal pretty much screwed with everything else and that's why a lot of this stuff is happening. I also remember him saying that the development cycle in the lead up to the launch of the Xbox One has been for more public than the original Xbox and the 360. He said that near constant changes and back & forth stuff like this happen all the time with console launches but they usually keep that information to themselves. The only reason why we know as much as we do is because of how expansive the Internet and gaming has become in the last few years.
reptilescorpio
Member
CNET have contacted MS but haven't had a response so don't have your hopes up. Just a repeat of last time.
Hope the wait is less than 12 months this time to get the accent down.
Chobel
Member
Quadraphonic
Member
Why throw Sony into this? They're ready.
Portugeezer
Member
Dat Portuguese... I bet it will be Brazilian PT, lol.
I dunno, I mean they're still using dev-kits at conferences instead of the actual console.
I still don't get how they made it so small and quiet at the same time... I don't want another RRoD case again.
WetPotatoBread
Banned
Scott Lowe is that you.
NoirVisage
Banned
Then don't buy it. Microsoft gave you RROD, not Sony, but sure, project those fears on the hardware company, by all means.