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Inazuma Eleven confirmed for NA eShop release -- today!
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Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I...I'm kind of overwhelmed by this game, a lot of stuff going on at the beginning and I'm a bit confused how to play really. Had a lot of trouble during the practice segment.
Didn't expect a sports game to have an "Unwinnable" fight right at the beginning either, but I guess I need to treat this as an RPG, correct?
Didn't expect a sports game to have an "Unwinnable" fight right at the beginning either, but I guess I need to treat this as an RPG, correct?
TheMissingLink
Member
How many blocks does it take up? My space on my 3DS is getting limited...
Thanks!
Thanks!
MetalGuardian
Banned
I hate soccer, I hate touch controls, and I hated middle school
... and I can't wait to play this
Looks bizarre and awesome. I'm probably going to watch the anime on the eshop the next time I get drunk.
Still, I need to read some more impressions! A review or two wouldn't be so bad either. $20 seems kind of steep for an old-ass port of a DS game (even with the apparently updated VA... which is something I don't care about because I don't have any frame of reference to compare it to the original)
... and I can't wait to play this
Looks bizarre and awesome. I'm probably going to watch the anime on the eshop the next time I get drunk.Still, I need to read some more impressions! A review or two wouldn't be so bad either. $20 seems kind of steep for an old-ass port of a DS game (even with the apparently updated VA... which is something I don't care about because I don't have any frame of reference to compare it to the original)
metsallica
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3995.
Pros:I hate soccer, I hate touch controls, and I hated middle school
... and I can't wait to play this
Still, I need to read some more impressions! A review or two wouldn't be so bad either. $20 seems kind of steep for an old-ass port of a DS game (even with the apparently updated VA... which is something I don't care about because I don't have any frame of reference to compare it to the original)
- Wacky insane storyline but keeps itself in check (can also be a con to some people)
- Flashy moves
- Characters are pretty cool
- Series is very reminiscent of Captain Tsubasa in general and its' SNES games
- Gameplay is great
Cons:
- Character recruiting is ultimately useless in this game with the exception of 1 or 2 characters due to everybody else having mediocre stats in the translated version for some reason. In short, everybody but those 1 or 2 characters got nerfed.
- Post-game content is somewhat lacking
Both the cons are fixed in IE2.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I'm kind of nervous about the fact, according to the manual, eventually I'll have to pick and choose between who I want as friends. :0
I feel the same way. I was proud that I scored a goal during one of the two practice sessions I did, but I was awful trying to hit the locker in the time limit. I also had no idea that game was going to be like that, and I was starting to get really upset until I realized what was going on haha.
timetokill
Banned
Always been curious about this series. I want to try this out but I'm now wondering if there's going to be some other way to get the game plus 2 and 3 or whatever. The whole release setup for these games and between EU and NA is confusing me.
Starwolf_UK
Member
Superior version already.
Great (I did notice IE3 was missing when I scouted that eShop a few weeks ago). Another game to add to my list of "please I didn't get hoodwinked into making an NNID". I probably wouldn't buy though as my UK copy of 1 suffices.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
For those who want a weird soccer / football RPG this is the game. Though you will most likely have to get around the fact that you will be using the stylus for the majority of the battles in the game.
Great series though.
Great series though.
Guys having trouble:
Abuse the pause mechanic. You're not going to be able to execute any kind of decent attack if you're trying to control your players in real time.
Save often. Losing the 11v11 matches or the 'locker' match early on is a game over. Random encounters can be lost but you'll lose your progress otherwise - also note that draws count as losses for some reason in the 11v11s (which makes your first tournament match a giant pain in the arse)
Lots of matches will have scripted events where it seems impossible for you to do anything, you just have to wait it out normally until half time
A simple tactic. In the 3v3s, You'll start off like this:
P P(ball) P
Send one player forward and one back, and pass it to player behind. so you look like this
-------P
---P
P(ball)
Then send the middle guy forward, so you end up in a kind of triangle
P--------P
-----P(ball)
2 of the defenders will close in on the ball, so pass sit to one of the forward players to get a 2 v 1. Like so:
P---D-----P(ball)
---D---D
------P
Now all you need to do is cross to the other forward guy to get a free shot at goal.
Hopefully you can understand that. In any case, after a while you'll begin to unlock dribble skills and shot skills so you won't need to rely too much on intricate movements and attacks. It is an RPG after all
Abuse the pause mechanic. You're not going to be able to execute any kind of decent attack if you're trying to control your players in real time.
Save often. Losing the 11v11 matches or the 'locker' match early on is a game over. Random encounters can be lost but you'll lose your progress otherwise - also note that draws count as losses for some reason in the 11v11s (which makes your first tournament match a giant pain in the arse)
Lots of matches will have scripted events where it seems impossible for you to do anything, you just have to wait it out normally until half time
A simple tactic. In the 3v3s, You'll start off like this:
P P(ball) P
Send one player forward and one back, and pass it to player behind. so you look like this
-------P
---P
P(ball)
Then send the middle guy forward, so you end up in a kind of triangle
P--------P
-----P(ball)
2 of the defenders will close in on the ball, so pass sit to one of the forward players to get a 2 v 1. Like so:
P---D-----P(ball)
---D---D
------P
Now all you need to do is cross to the other forward guy to get a free shot at goal.
Hopefully you can understand that. In any case, after a while you'll begin to unlock dribble skills and shot skills so you won't need to rely too much on intricate movements and attacks. It is an RPG after all
The trilogy collection wasn't released outside of Japan and has modified content so it would have been hard to do so without a full new porting. At least this shows that Nintendo is willing to release old DS games on the 3DS eShop.
Starwolf_UK
Member
Are the drug shops still censored in this version? (in the Japanese version you ca buy steroids to use on your players...was removed in a similar fashion to the Game Corner in Poke Platinum)
As for old DS games. Wasn't the trilogy on 3DS in the first place and given the engine of 3 has been ported to 3DS...
The truth is a simple they have not released the games on their own yet so are not going to destroy their value by having the trilogy come out.
Modified content? Tell me more. If it is IE1 using the IE2 engine. Sorry that is how the EU release of IE1 was.
As for old DS games. Wasn't the trilogy on 3DS in the first place and given the engine of 3 has been ported to 3DS...
The truth is a simple they have not released the games on their own yet so are not going to destroy their value by having the trilogy come out.
The 2nd and 3rd games were like Pokemon, split into two versions each with exclusive characters. I think the 3DS trilogy combines both Red & Blue equivalents together into a single game.
I definitely agree with you on the last point. No way are Nintendo going to release a Trilogy game if the last game hasn't been released yet over here. Also I imagine memory handling would be a nightmare after you added translations and voicework for the extra languages. We got only half of a One Piece game released on 3DS because of that.
I disagree. I think they intentionally went the Beyonce rout as an experiment. IMO they fully hope that this route will secure the best result.
I had no idea this was even coming to the US and I've been curious about this series for years. I will look forward to reading more about this today to see it it's actually worth diving into the series. If I weren't in the middle of three separate games right now I probably would have bought this on impulse last night.
I'm actually oddly excited about the other sports games as well.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Level-5 has never published a retail game in the US (citation needed).
It's digital only for a reason.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Any more tips?
I'm struggling against all the early random encounters, and barely won the match against the little kids.
I kept getting "offsides", and I can't really seem to just score a goal.
I'm struggling against all the early random encounters, and barely won the match against the little kids.
I kept getting "offsides", and I can't really seem to just score a goal.
That's weird considering they created Level-5 America a few years ago. I thought it was as a publisher, but maybe they're focusing on localization only.
Any more tips?
I'm struggling against all the early random encounters, and barely won the match against the little kids.
I kept getting "offsides", and I can't really seem to just score a goal.
Offsides are when you pass to someone closer to the opposing team's goal than any of their defenders.
My advice is to experiment with the formations. Neither the default match nor default battle formations are doable for me, but after spending enough time with the game to build my own playstyle, I can end up with scores like this:
Just keep at it. I was really terrible when I first played, too. Lost a bunch of the story matches, etc. Just watch some games on YouTube, experiment a bit, don't ignore the equipment/learnable moves... You'll get it.
EDIT: Also, before you get shoot skills, HEADERS ARE YOUR FRIEND. Just pass to someone close to the goal, and before the ball even gets to them, click the goal, and the passed-to player will have the choice of using a volley or a header. If you've got a type advantage or decent enough stats, 2/4 strength headers will do, but 4/4 will get past most goalkeepers so long as they don't use a keeper skill.
EDIT 2: And don't forget to fire up once per game, activated by holding L or R. It increases form for your entire team and splits skill costs by half. It lasts about 10 minutes in-game time. I tend to finish out the second half with it, or use it in response to the other team using it.
On the other hand there is precedent for collecting a digital series (or even just a bunch of digital games) for retail release, so I think if this happens it depends entirely on how well the game does on the eShop as it is.
... And if Nintendo releases it, because as you noted Level-5 never published retail in the US so someone's gotta partner up with them for it.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Thanks for the tips, I'm actually winning the random battles!
Lost to the Occult Team, but now I see that I have to sort of "follow the script" and keep using the Dragon attack till the dude learns the co-op version, even though I'm more of an RPG dude than sports fan, it's the RPG elements I keep forgetting about.
One thing I will say, this game really makes me wanna check out the anime.
Lost to the Occult Team, but now I see that I have to sort of "follow the script" and keep using the Dragon attack till the dude learns the co-op version, even though I'm more of an RPG dude than sports fan, it's the RPG elements I keep forgetting about.
One thing I will say, this game really makes me wanna check out the anime.
No problem! Yeah, some of the early matches, especially in IE1, are annoying if only for how you have to do things a certain way. It can be quite challenging for someone without a real grasp on the mechanics, which at that point is still most new players.
The anime is pretty decent, though the dub can border on wretched. My friend Splash over at Ryuu-Rogue has been fansubbing the show for years now, though, if that's more to your liking.
SpaceBridge
Member
Can't really find video of the 3DS port online. How's the out of battle graphics? I always thought they gave me a Earthbound vibe.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I feel the game doesn't really do a good job with the tutorials, they sort of leave out the basics of soccer (like the positions, offsides, fouls), and sort of focus on the menu aspects a bit too much. The manual doesn't seem to be any better.
And yeah, I discovered those subs actually. Glad to see a good group's translated it as I can't really stomach dubs anymore with few exceptions.
Very simple, but clean. Reminds me of the ones used for the DS Dragon Quest remakes.
Earthbound meets Harvest Moon 64
TheMissingLink
Member
And bought! Excited to give it a whirl...
Been wanting to play this for a long time. So to make things clear it's a 3DS port of the very first game correct? Were there any significant improvements over the DS version outside of maybe 3D? Or does it even have that?
Going to be picking this up regardless though as I've been to try this game for some time now.
Going to be picking this up regardless though as I've been to try this game for some time now.
This is indeed Inazuma Eleven 1 ripped out of the Japanese 1-2-3 3DS collection. Most of the bulk of the game takes place on the bottom screen, though all special skills take place on the top screen with a wider aspect ratio and a 3D effect that is actually quite nice. Also, any framerate issues of the DS original are long gone.
It's got a brand new redub, and a script that is only slightly changed from the PAL DS release (occasional British slang and all). With that said, the PAL DS release shoehorned in some features of later Inazuma Eleven games, which this port is unfortunately lacking (though there are one or two slight improvements that almost make up for it).
The English fanbase has been virtually silent on any changes made to 1-2-3, though, so there may be a few bonuses hiding around in the postgame that we've yet to find. For example, there's no access to the DLC menu from the DS original, so how to get items like the Gym Storeroom Key and the bonus characters is anyone's guess. I'm already at chapter 8 though, so I'll be sure to post here before long if I find anything new.
As much as people may have wanted the full compilation, for a $19.99 pricepoint, you're really getting a great value. Hopefully this sells well enough that the party rages on, because the series only ever gets better.
EDIT: Oh, and as far as I can tell, the Streetpass features introduced in GO are absent.
EDIT 2: So, I just finished the story mode.
DLC items are then sold at the school store alongside Fallen Zeus being available to challenge.
English dub credits!
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
So, am I right in assuming the Anime serves as sort of a "walk-through" when it comes to hinting at flags for some of the bigger matches? I watched the Otaku Match and I noticed it more or less lined up with what you're supposed to do in the game according to FAQs.
For IE1, mostly yes. If I recall correctly,
the anime has you recruit Erik waaay earlier than the game lets you,
Megane Crash isn't a thing until IE2.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Well, finally beat Occult, thanks for the advice!
One more thing though, how's the best way to handle making Friends? I assume you're pretty much good just keeping the default team and all the story important characters, but is there any reward if you want to recruit the other players just for completion? I hear you need to release some eventually, but does it keep track of which ones you've had prior?
One more thing though, how's the best way to handle making Friends? I assume you're pretty much good just keeping the default team and all the story important characters, but is there any reward if you want to recruit the other players just for completion? I hear you need to release some eventually, but does it keep track of which ones you've had prior?
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
It's actually the opposite, I imagine people who are actually in soccer would probably find how it represents the game to be a bit shallow.
Like, it's pretty basic soccer stuff. It basically shows you which players go where, and you mainly need to treat it like an RPG with commands rather than an actual sports game, that's what tripped me up at first.
There's a co-op version you need to learn? Really? Why doesn't the game tell you that? I failed against that team twice and I've frankly had enough of this game for the day. So far, it's a frustrating experience for me. I get loads of shots off at great angles, and it's annoying when the keeper's not even in proper position, yet makes the save comfortably anyway. It's like position doesn't even matter that much in this game, just the moves you use. I guess that makes sense because it's trying to be an RPG, but I won't lie and pretend like I'm not really annoyed right now.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
YES...no need to import anymore!
Now to get a eShop card, spent the last bit of funds I had on it for AA5.
Now to get a eShop card, spent the last bit of funds I had on it for AA5.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
It does tell you that through the dialouge, it's just kind of confusing because it makes you think you need to have Kevin pass it to Blaze and then aim for the goal. But instead you just need to shoot with Kevin, and the Co-Op move can be used instantly.
All you have to do basically to win is keep getting the ball to Kevin and using his Special (so get him the best equipment you've got and keep his stamina up by giving him healing items between halves), after the first two times, the next time you'll unlock the co-op Special and will use it automatically. Then you just need to guard your goal for the rest of the match and you're set.
The game seems to get better after that, though. Like you can replay teams, and I replayed the Occult Team...I scored three points, and the scripted elements are gone, so it's more fun.
Its not trying to be an RPG, it IS an RPG.
You'd think that, but this IP is extremely popular in France, Italy, and Spain. ESPECIALLY Spain. For obvious reasons. It's so popular in Spain, they got their own special TV version of one of the movies with some different scenes in it.
Here's one of the best triple shots you will learn in the game:
You'd think that, but this IP is extremely popular in France, Italy, and Spain. ESPECIALLY Spain. For obvious reasons. It's so popular in Spain, they got their own special TV version of one of the movies with some different scenes in it.
Here's one of the best triple shots you will learn in the game:
I guess most of the best shots are shown in the anime?
I hope they get to IE 2. Season 2 (and Fubuki) remains my favorite. Compare that to the turd that is the recent episodes of Galaxy.
I believe all the strongest shots in this game are in the anime. Speaking of which, the only shot that you can't use is
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Aphodi
The Phoenix
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