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Rocket Punch · Jan 9, 2006

This thread is for those who have yet to see it. Wait until you see the Bowser castle levels. They're pretty amazing. They use every glitch at their disposal but it's still pretty damn impressive.

Shiggy am cry!

strikeselect · Jan 9, 2006

sick, just fucking sick.

every jump is calculated to land at a specific/exact point... my god.

Borys · Jan 9, 2006

God I love time attacks/ speed runs.

Prime and Prime 2 has most amazing stuff - imagine going through Magmoor w/o Varia suit and 1 HP left!

A-M-A-Z-I-N-G

It took him hundreds and hundreds of tries because the stuff (health orbs) in crates you destroy is pretty random.

ant1532 · Jan 9, 2006

my favorite game

I wish this was remade on gamecube(like OoT)

Well revolution, here i come

(DS version was a dream come true, now only if i had an analog stick)

Tritroid · Jan 9, 2006

Borys said:
God I love time attacks/ speed runs.

Prime and Prime 2 has most amazing stuff - imagine going through Magmoor w/o Varia suit and 1 HP left!

A-M-A-Z-I-N-G

It took him hundreds and hundreds of tries because the stuff (health orbs) in crates you destroy is pretty random.

You have a link to that one?

SantaC · Jan 9, 2006

Tritroid said:
You have a link to that one?

http://speeddemosarchive.com/news.html

ant1532 · Jan 9, 2006

this guy or girl should be known as a platform king.(or queen)

Sander · Jan 9, 2006

Tritroid said:
You have a link to that one?

http://www.metroid2002.com/other_varialess_magmoor_run.php

Borys · Jan 9, 2006

MAGMOOR CAVERNS WITHOUT VARIA SUIT

http://www.metroid2002.com/other_varialess_magmoor_run.php

INSANE

ant1532 · Jan 9, 2006

wooh... (still watching video) he/she is owning the first king koopa level

Orin GA · Jan 9, 2006

Suddenly my mario 64 skillz look like shit.

Ronabo · Jan 9, 2006

This is sick!

Yah Hoo! Yah Hoo! Yah Hoo! Yah Hoo!

ant1532 · Jan 9, 2006

Orin GA said:
Suddenly my mario 64 skillz look like shit.

feel same way

*pops in super mario 64

Kroole · Jan 9, 2006

That was awesome. It just reminds me how good that game is.

ant1532 · Jan 9, 2006

is there anyway i can make a short clip of the video an avatar?

SantaC · Jan 9, 2006

Borys said:
MAGMOOR CAVERNS WITHOUT VARIA SUIT

http://www.metroid2002.com/other_varialess_magmoor_run.php

INSANE

I need to replay Prime soon. Amazing game.

Sagitario · Jan 9, 2006

OMFG.... that guy is good...

SM64 is such a great game... too bad that DS version control is not very good...

GitarooMan · Jan 9, 2006

Kroole said:
That was awesome. It just reminds me how good that game is.

Yeah, it's really cool, makes me want to go play it again. The way he/she flips through the Bowser levels is insane, among others things.

joaomgcd · Jan 9, 2006

love the backwards butt-jumps near the end :lol

:Motorbass · Jan 9, 2006

ant1532 said:
is there anyway i can make a short clip of the video an avatar?

Usa a Screencaptureprogram like Camtasia.

Red Scarlet · Jan 9, 2006

Direct link .avi of Varialess Magmoor: http://www.metroid2002.com/smilingjack13/cool_stuff/3_tank_vmr.avi

Lecourier's 70 star run in like 90 mins is great too. Single segement and very impressive.

ant1532 · Jan 9, 2006

love the games water music! makes me sleepy.

and ending music is great

FrenchMovieTheme · Jan 9, 2006

damn that was pretty sweet

ant1532 · Jan 9, 2006

:Motorbass said:
Usa a Screencaptureprogram like Camtasia.

thanks will try.

BlueLegs · Jan 9, 2006

I'd love to see this guy go through the game getting all 120 stars.

I had no idea about that short cut to get that cave star right at the start.

snatches · Jan 9, 2006

=O

Seriously. Yes they exploited every glitch but that guy is good. I wonder if he really did it all in one attempt. Some of those moves are so on edge its like it couldn't be possible.

Kabuki Waq · Jan 9, 2006

backwards buttstomp wtf?

wow that was so awesome....just makes me even more pissed at the missed oppertunity SMS was.

Photon · Jan 9, 2006

I was more impressed when I didn't realize most of these are done on emulators. Using save states to redo every move and jump until perfect isn't quite as impressive.

Deku Tree · Jan 9, 2006

They must hide the restarts with the save screen. In any case, that's incredible.

brandonh83 · Jan 9, 2006

This is bullshit.

:Motorbass · Jan 9, 2006

Photon said:
I was more impressed when I didn't realize most of these are done on emulators. Using save states to redo every move and jump until perfect isn't quite as impressive.

Indeed.
The best "normal" play without slowmotion etc. is a 18.59 run:

http://www.world-of-holy-moly.de/18_59_Super_Mario_64_Speedrun_WR_Marius_Mollenhauer_LQ.wmv

biodegradablebean · Jan 9, 2006

Photon said:
I was more impressed when I didn't realize most of these are done on emulators. Using save states to redo every move and jump until perfect isn't quite as impressive.

The video said right at the beginning it was tool-assisted. Stil very impressive, not as cool as some of the Metroid Prime stuff though, which is all played on the real console and some even single-segment.

vitaflo · Jan 9, 2006

Um, this is a tool assisted movie. The person didn't play this in realtime.

reggieandTFE · Jan 9, 2006

Sweet video. This reminded me how great Mario 64 holds up (unlike most N64 games).

GaimeGuy · Jan 9, 2006

Photon said:
I was more impressed when I didn't realize most of these are done on emulators. Using save states to redo every move and jump until perfect isn't quite as impressive.

Except most of these aren't done on emulators.

The only real well known speed run that was done on an emulator was the Super Mario Bros 3 10 minute speed run. Not saying there aren't speed runs done on emulators (there are tons of them), but the stuff you find at metroid2002, sda, and twingalaxies is legit, and not done on emulators.

Suikoguy · Jan 9, 2006

Kabuki Waq said:
backwards buttstomp wtf?

Yeah, at that point I went

WTF Just happened?

strikeselect · Jan 9, 2006

Photon said:
I was more impressed when I didn't realize most of these are done on emulators. Using save states to redo every move and jump until perfect isn't quite as impressive.

Ah, I wasn't aware of that when I watched the movie. Either way, it's still impressive to watch.

ksinghsf · Jan 9, 2006

So what's the deal with those backwards buttstomps glitch? They can get you through any door it seems...

StarscreamLSU · Jan 9, 2006

snatches said:
=O

Seriously. Yes they exploited every glitch but that guy is good. I wonder if he really did it all in one attempt. Some of those moves are so on edge its like it couldn't be possible.

I read the website that's cited at the begining of the movie saying it was a "tool assisted movie". Somehow doesn't seem as impressive after reading the site.

AZ Greg · Jan 9, 2006

From the website FAQ:

"Are tool-assisted speedruns fake?
Fake means something that is not what it is claimed to be. A glass jewel could be a fake diamond.
The makers of tool-assisted speedruns do not claim the movies to be recordings of real-time playing ― thus they are not fake.

Are tool-assisted speedruns cheated?
Cheating has two meanings:
To deceive by trickery.
To violate rules deliberately.
Arguably, we do cheat the games. The games have been programmed assuming that the player is a human who has humanly limits. We surpass those limits with tool-assistance.

For example, there are very few humans who can produce a 30 Hz autofire by rapidly bashing the B button, but in tool-assistance, it's trivial to do that.
We also abuse many programming errors in the games.

But we don't cheat the audience. The makers of tool-assisted speedruns are very open at how they've made the movies. There certainly is no deceiving taking part. (We can't help people who just don't read.)"

It was still a good watch!

sammy · Jan 9, 2006

Awesome video, it's almost insulting.

Y2Kev · Jan 9, 2006

WTF. Unreal. The bowser red coin challenges make my head explode.

jetjevons · Jan 9, 2006

There is no way that is real time.

Red Scarlet · Jan 9, 2006

If it's a Tool-Assisted Speedrun, it isn't realtime. And that one seems to say that's what it is at the start.

Teddman · Jan 9, 2006

So how is the final product achieved? Is there a way to edit all of the save state attempts into one long movie?

G-Fex · Jan 9, 2006

why in the hell didn't they make a proper sequel to this?

Tiktaalik · Jan 9, 2006

When they say tool-assisted, what exactly does that mean? Which tools are used and what do they allow you to do?

SteveMeister · Jan 9, 2006

AZYUMA86 said:
From the website FAQ:

"Are tool-assisted speedruns fake?
Fake means something that is not what it is claimed to be. A glass jewel could be a fake diamond.
The makers of tool-assisted speedruns do not claim the movies to be recordings of real-time playing ― thus they are not fake.

Are tool-assisted speedruns cheated?
Cheating has two meanings:
To deceive by trickery.
To violate rules deliberately.
Arguably, we do cheat the games. The games have been programmed assuming that the player is a human who has humanly limits. We surpass those limits with tool-assistance.

For example, there are very few humans who can produce a 30 Hz autofire by rapidly bashing the B button, but in tool-assistance, it's trivial to do that.
We also abuse many programming errors in the games.

But we don't cheat the audience. The makers of tool-assisted speedruns are very open at how they've made the movies. There certainly is no deceiving taking part. (We can't help people who just don't read.)"

It was still a good watch!

Semantics bullshit. If it isn't a real person playing on the original platform, it's nothing but a sham. Basically they're saying "yes, the video is real" and it certainly is a real video. What it's not is a video of a real person playing Super Mario 64 on an unmodified Nintendo 64 with a standard Nintendo controller. That's what people mean when they accuse things like this of being fakes, and semantic arguments aren't going to change the fact that in that sense, videos like this most certainly ARE fakes.

pxleyes · Jan 9, 2006

Sander said:
http://www.metroid2002.com/other_varialess_magmoor_run.php

O
M
G

I must show this to friends. I shall spread the good word. Hallowed is that man.

Jive Turkey · Jan 9, 2006

vitaflo said:
Um, this is a tool assisted movie. The person didn't play this in realtime.

No kidding. Doesn't change the fact that it is still pretty damn cool.

Forgot what a cool game Mario 64 was but thos graphics haven't aged all that well.

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