I still haven't gotten the Sword of Kings in Earthbound. After 3 hours I just put the game away and I've been to angry to pick it back up.
Came to say this! I really did try long an hard one time to get the darn thing but it never was meant to be!
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Worst odds/difficulty in getting items in video games
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bobawesome
Member
I never played with a group of people but from what I hear, that's really what you want to do. It's definitely possible to solo the base game but you have to pray to the RNG gods that you'll get good equipment so you're adequately prepared for the bosses.
Rodney McKay
Member
I may be thinking of one of the other games, but it was either a curry or a cake power from the chef monster.
I remember using the same strategy for farming the soul out of that guy. Throw the curry/cake out and let him slowly walk over it as he continually took 1HP of damage.
synchronicity
Member
I got 3 pure Bladestones. Sure, I did plenty of grinding, but it didn't seem as bad as many claim- or maybe I was just really lucky. The Souls series is my favorite series ever, though, so maybe it just didn't feel like tedious work for me- running through the SoS.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Well over 300 runs before I got those damn Sonic Boots... Now the Fuma Gear on the other hand...
I'm pretty sure I lucked into the Sonic Boots fairly easily.
Now, the fucking Valmanway...fuuuuuuck. And don't even get me started on Valmanway +1. I've abandoned all hope of ever getting that.
Mother harlot is even worse considering she's the only fiend that you don't need to do the 1/256 thing to get...but she requires all the fiends to make anyway. Meaning if you did her quest without knowing about the other fiends you pretty much wasted your time.
I hated every moment of the hunt, it was honestly the worst part of the game for me.
BananaSprinkles
Banned
I'm not sure it really compares to some of the others, but the first thing I thought of when I read the thread title were diamond relics in Knack. I played through the game twice opening all 68 chests each time and only had 1 out of 10. All totaled, I probably spent 200~ hours farming those fucking things.
old manatee
Banned
It was easy to find a good weapon in Diablo 3. You just had to pay for it.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Also, the worst is in games where you can infinitely reroll stats, and you get into a rhythm of rerolling trying to get a good roll, but then you end up getting TOO into the rhythm, get a good roll, then immediately reroll because you can't stop yourself in time. :lol
Flacracker
Banned
Cruel Barb... fucking Van Cleef.
wsoxfan1214
Banned
Pretty sure PSO:BB had a weapon that was a 1 in 7000 drop from a rare enemy that had a 1 in 200 chance of appearing that I got lucky and got first time I killed one.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Monster Hunter
I killed 20 Rathians to get a plate that was nonexistent....
I killed 20 Rathians to get a plate that was nonexistent....
super-famicom
Member
If Diablo 3 was a Valve game or Gaben was at Blizzard, I'd avatar quote you so hard right now.
I spent dozens of hours in Persona 3 FES trying to create Persona with perfect skill sets and fucking up by re-rolling when I had what I wanted since I'd been doing that for so long.
Valkerionseven
Member
Final Fantasy XI drop rates. I know its an MMO but wow.
A monster that is an open to anyone spawn.
Spawns once a day.
Has a three hour window of when it will spawn.
Once a week the ultra rare version will spawn.
A one in like 70 chance of claiming it if it does.
And if you do, a 1/1500 chance of dropping that certain item you want because the game only drops a certain amount, while having a loot pool to choose from 2x that size.
The drop rates finally made me give this game up. Great game, but man if you actually tried to hard to get some endgame items you literally had no life.
Oh and Dynamis... a zone with like 500 monsters, a drop table of about what... 16-20 items people want... and three. THREE items drop in a timed event that you have to pay a shit ton of money to even get into, AND its restricted to two times a week, AND only one group can go in at a time because its not an instance....
Oh and lets not even get started on relic weapons.... those people were nuts for even doing that mess. A solid 2 years of dedicated play time to get one fucking weapon that was not even that amazing or good looking in most cases.
Supposedly this kind of stuff was patched down eventually when the populations took more of a dive but...
Loved the game.
But F all of that.
A monster that is an open to anyone spawn.
Spawns once a day.
Has a three hour window of when it will spawn.
Once a week the ultra rare version will spawn.
A one in like 70 chance of claiming it if it does.
And if you do, a 1/1500 chance of dropping that certain item you want because the game only drops a certain amount, while having a loot pool to choose from 2x that size.
The drop rates finally made me give this game up. Great game, but man if you actually tried to hard to get some endgame items you literally had no life.
Oh and Dynamis... a zone with like 500 monsters, a drop table of about what... 16-20 items people want... and three. THREE items drop in a timed event that you have to pay a shit ton of money to even get into, AND its restricted to two times a week, AND only one group can go in at a time because its not an instance....
Oh and lets not even get started on relic weapons.... those people were nuts for even doing that mess. A solid 2 years of dedicated play time to get one fucking weapon that was not even that amazing or good looking in most cases.
Supposedly this kind of stuff was patched down eventually when the populations took more of a dive but...
Loved the game.
But F all of that.
LUFTRAUSER
Banned
Unusual hats in Team Fortress 2. They have only a 0.66% of being received when you open a crate; that is about a 1-in-150 chance, and crates cost $2.50 to open!
I had to open like six crates before I got one.
Fool cards in Persona 2.
You need to find a demon with the "fool" trait (not awfully rare, but rules out a decent amount of demons), it needs to start talking to you (low chance at the start of the battle), then you need to respond to its questions in an alternating pattern of making it eager or angry (some questions have no answers with guaranteed results), and then finally there's a very small chance it'll ask you a special question which, if answered right, gives you 1 Fool card.
The best part is that - at least from what I've seen - nobody's even sure if this is totally correct. People say some of the conditions above don't necessarily need to be met, but nobody's certain. All anyone can agree on is that it's ridiculously rare, and barely hinted at in the game proper.
You need to find a demon with the "fool" trait (not awfully rare, but rules out a decent amount of demons), it needs to start talking to you (low chance at the start of the battle), then you need to respond to its questions in an alternating pattern of making it eager or angry (some questions have no answers with guaranteed results), and then finally there's a very small chance it'll ask you a special question which, if answered right, gives you 1 Fool card.
The best part is that - at least from what I've seen - nobody's even sure if this is totally correct. People say some of the conditions above don't necessarily need to be met, but nobody's certain. All anyone can agree on is that it's ridiculously rare, and barely hinted at in the game proper.
I remember getting materials to make the Ultima Blade in Kingdom Hearts years back. But the hardest and longest part for me was encountering White Truffles. They only appear at certain areas and even then are rare. Then once you do, you have to play some weird game of Simon Says but with magic with them. Then once you succeeded, you MAY get the material you want from them. Then you have to do it again.....
Trigonometrize.
Member
One of Goofy's shields in the original Kingdom Hearts took me hours of farming one of monster.
This is where I broke down and duped...
Getting the Iron Golem soul in Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow.
This lil'bugger takes only 1 hp of damage per hit, even if you're at an insanely high level, and his Soul is super rare.
Oh god, this guy! I ended up using the Une (little plant soul) because it hit so many times in succession.
The worst is when you get the muscle memory of quickly leaving the room too ingrained, and leave as you notice an item is dropping.
Somnium986
Member
Well over 300 runs before I got those damn Sonic Boots... Now the Fuma Gear on the other hand...
This right here. You could say that for any rare item in the game though. My friend quit because he just couldn't get the Valmanway+1, and he was trying for almost a month. I got it instead and I already had one equipped...
Leithkorias
Member
Stone of jordan in diablo 2. Granted they are easy to obtain now through other means, but in 14 years of playing, I've never seen one drop.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
If there is one thing I know about Japanese game developers it's that they Looooove having their games have stupidly rare drop rates for anything half decent. FF12, Monster hunter, Demon Souls, etc..
Can I put Pokemon on that list too? technically Pokemon aren't items, but getting a shiny legit in the wild is horse shit. I've ran into TWO since I first played Gold and all the way up to Y. Fucking lunacy man!
Can I put Pokemon on that list too? technically Pokemon aren't items, but getting a shiny legit in the wild is horse shit. I've ran into TWO since I first played Gold and all the way up to Y. Fucking lunacy man!
Wolf Akela
Member
Korean MMOs are worse.
Perfect iv, shiny and with the nature you want. So... Let's see getting a pokemon with perfect iv spread is 1/31^6 chance of encountering a wild shiny is 1/4096 and there are 25 nature's... On top of that suck salsa some pokemon have a 1% encounter rate, some females have 18.25% availability, and then they might have two abilities (not counting hidden because those require special things).
I'm too drunk to do the math right now, but I think that's up there.
I'm too drunk to do the math right now, but I think that's up there.
Brock_Landers
Member
The Baron's mount in WoW. I got solo'ing Strat down to an artform (this was during TBC), and DID finally get it, though I quit playing shortly after so I'm not sure if it had been patched or anything.
I'd say it probably took about 300 runs, with each one taking a decent chunk of time...
I'd say it probably took about 300 runs, with each one taking a decent chunk of time...
Lucky Egg, Pokemon Firered and Leafgreen.
The Lucky Egg is found only on wild Chansey.
In area 3 of the Safari Zone, Chansey has a 4% encounter rate.
A Chansey has 5% chance of holding a Lucky Egg, meaning 1 out of every 500 wild encounters.
And you have to catch that Chansey with Safari Balls before it runs away.
Thank Christ that later games just gave you the Lucky Egg.
The Lucky Egg is found only on wild Chansey.
In area 3 of the Safari Zone, Chansey has a 4% encounter rate.
A Chansey has 5% chance of holding a Lucky Egg, meaning 1 out of every 500 wild encounters.
And you have to catch that Chansey with Safari Balls before it runs away.
Thank Christ that later games just gave you the Lucky Egg.
BananasWithGuns
Member
runnin_blue
Banned
In Baldur's Gate you get a useless item called the Golden Pantaloons. Now if you kept them and carried them through the entire first game in your inventory (which is bloody hard coz of space), finished the game and then imported your character into Baldur's Gate 2 AND then play a large chunk of the second game, you MAY come across a side mission which you can complete to get another set of pantaloons, which you then take them both to someone else to fashion a crazy suit of armour for you.
aspiegamer
Member
Ahahaha yes. I recall one thing so painful that I remember the exact details of it to this day--
2-5% drop rate on something that was a random selection after 72 hours on something that only spawns once every 21-24 hours that numerous groups would fight for every day. A list of people with the item that you could count on one hand on any given server even years into the game. Sad (saddest?) part being that it was almost legitimately worth the effort since it would turn your Linkshell's main tank into Jesus. Screw you King Behemoth.
The objective statistical output was ~1.2-1.8 drops per year per server.
Had nothing on Defending Ring, but still so awful! ~1-3% drop on a single 24-hour spawn.
This was horrible for me also and forgot to count on the last 20.
JediLink
Member
Duuuuuuude, you're missing out. The BSS is the shit.
I actually have three of them on one character (Normal, Fire and Lighting), and on another of my characters I got one just playing normally with no farming before even beating the gargoyles.
TheDeadHeroAlistair
Member
A shiny Chimecho in Ruby/Sapphire with perfect IVs. Dat 2% encounter rate...