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STEAM Announcements & Updates 2014 II - The Definitive Edition

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chrominance

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MMBosstones86 said:
Damn. Wanted Pirates, but that's it from the BTA. Don't have the other two adds, but not worth the BTA price now.

$1 tier it is!
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A trick for future Humble Bundles (until they change the rules again): when you pay your $1, you also lock in the average you need to beat if you decide to upgrade to the BTA tier. So if you pay $1 when the average is relatively low, you won't have to worry about the current high BTA price if the second week brings games you want.

I probably won't bother anyways, as the only thing I don't have and actually might want is Pirates (never saw the point of the scrambled X map packs) and I can probably get that for cheaper if I wait for a sale.
 
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C00kie M0nster

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corrosivefrost said:
Ok, good to know.

Stupid question time:
I have a DLC sub in my SS4AE properties for "Super Street FIghter IV All-in Costume Pack".

Is this the same as the AE All-in costume pack?
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I assume so because Steam won't let you buy the one in the store. It says you already own it. Enhanced Steam doesn't show it being owned either because it's a different sub or something.
 
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corrosivefrost

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C00kie M0nster said:
I assume so because Steam won't let you buy the one in the store. It says you already own it. Enhanced Steam doesn't show it being owned either because it's a different sub or something.
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I thought so -- but even steam normally says "you own this stuff" and yet steam says nothing to me about it in the client.
 
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crazyrabbits

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Caerith said:
The bonuses being BTA just confirms my decision to hold off on those DLC until they're included in the "upgrade to whatever edition" and get the pre-order stuff with it too.
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From what I understand, the Gold upgrade was delisted from Steam a week ago, in anticipation of the upcoming Complete Edition.
 
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dark_inferno

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chrominance said:
A trick for future Humble Bundles (until they change the rules again): when you pay your $1, you also lock in the average you need to beat if you decide to upgrade to the BTA tier. So if you pay $1 when the average is relatively low, you won't have to worry about the current high BTA price if the second week brings games you want.

I probably won't bother anyways, as the only thing I don't have and actually might want is Pirates (never saw the point of the scrambled X map packs) and I can probably get that for cheaper if I wait for a sale.
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Interesting. Thanks for the tip.
 
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inm8num2

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Caerith said:
The bonuses being BTA just confirms my decision to hold off on those DLC until they're included in the "upgrade to whatever edition" and get the pre-order stuff with it too.
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That's probably the best choice. The complete edition upgrade will be $4.99 (75% off) during a future sale and presumably include all the expansions, map packs, etc.
 
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spindoctor

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chrominance said:
A trick for future Humble Bundles (until they change the rules again): when you pay your $1, you also lock in the average you need to beat if you decide to upgrade to the BTA tier. So if you pay $1 when the average is relatively low, you won't have to worry about the current high BTA price if the second week brings games you want.
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Also worth noting that Humble Bundles start with an artificially high average. Which means buying the bundle extremely early (as in, within the first few minutes it goes live) could lock your average at something like $12-15 even though the eventual average will go down to half that much.
 
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MMBosstones86

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chrominance said:
A trick for future Humble Bundles (until they change the rules again): when you pay your $1, you also lock in the average you need to beat if you decide to upgrade to the BTA tier. So if you pay $1 when the average is relatively low, you won't have to worry about the current high BTA price if the second week brings games you want.

I probably won't bother anyways, as the only thing I don't have and actually might want is Pirates (never saw the point of the scrambled X map packs) and I can probably get that for cheaper if I wait for a sale.
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Oh wow, thanks. Very interesting.
 
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oipic

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chrominance said:
A trick for future Humble Bundles (until they change the rules again): when you pay your $1, you also lock in the average you need to beat if you decide to upgrade to the BTA tier. So if you pay $1 when the average is relatively low, you won't have to worry about the current high BTA price if the second week brings games you want.
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For what it's worth, this wasn't the case for me with one of the recent fortnight-long Humble Bundles - I purchased for a dollar when the average was less than $4, then had to pay over $4.60 to beat the average at the half-way point. Still, Humble being Humble, this is likely to flip-flop and differ from bundle to bundle.
 
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Newblade

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Ahoy, matey!

ModBot said:
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Sid Meier's Pirates! -- MB-E8401142A0009BB8 - Taken by Evrain. 20 entrants total.


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KenOD

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I do believe the Shopkeepers in Spelunky just hate me automatically. I didn't attack a single one of them going through the caves with a single incident between me and them. I even complimented one of them for their fine choice in a dog slave booth.

Then I get to the Jungle and due to a random frog explosion I discover a hidden exit, what excitement I felt as I entered the Black Market for the very first time. Alas such excitement was not to last s the moment the stage start I see "TERRORIST!" and a several shop-keepers coming running at me shooting with wild abandonment not caring what or who they hit as long as I died.

Third best game of 2013 indeed SteamGAF.
 
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mannerbot

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KenOD said:
I do believe the Shopkeepers in Spelunky just hate me automatically. I didn't attack a single one of them going through the caves with a single incident between me and them. I even complimented one of them for their fine choice in a dog slave booth.

Then I get to the Jungle and due to a random frog explosion I discover a hidden exit, what excitement I felt as I entered the Black Market for the very first time. Alas such excitement was not to last s the moment the stage start I see "TERRORIST!" and a several shop-keepers coming running at me shooting with wild abandonment not caring what or who they hit as long as I died.

Third best game of 2013 indeed SteamGAF.
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Probably an orange frog spawned in the market, it happens.

KenOD said:
Second greatest of all time Goat game.

First is Escape Goat 2
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Ugh, you just reminded me of the new "HD" graphics for Escape Goat 2, due to complaints about the pixel graphics of the original. I hate people.
 
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Caerith

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crazyrabbits said:
From what I understand, the Gold upgrade was delisted from Steam a week ago, in anticipation of the upcoming Complete Edition.
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Yep, that's what I'm expecting.

inm8num2 said:
That's probably the best choice. The complete edition upgrade will be $4.99 (75% off) during a future sale and presumably include all the expansions, map packs, etc.
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It's just the last two map packs I'm missing, but I'm holding off for the upgrade instead of getting them individually because there's some of the pre-order stuff (like making of videos, etc) that I missed and can apparently be gotten through the "upgrade to" package.
 
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Archaix

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KenOD said:
I do believe the Shopkeepers in Spelunky just hate me automatically. I didn't attack a single one of them going through the caves with a single incident between me and them. I even complimented one of them for their fine choice in a dog slave booth.

Then I get to the Jungle and due to a random frog explosion I discover a hidden exit, what excitement I felt as I entered the Black Market for the very first time. Alas such excitement was not to last s the moment the stage start I see "TERRORIST!" and a several shop-keepers coming running at me shooting with wild abandonment not caring what or who they hit as long as I died.

Third best game of 2013 indeed SteamGAF.
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The more you get to the black market and have this happen, the sooner you'll realize the shopkeepers are just another enemy. A particularly assholish enemy who has the best loot drops. The jungle has so many enemies that can ruin your day in the black market. Snail snot, boomerangs, snake spit on a present, exploding frogs, it's just all rotten and it's always your fault. The way I see it, if it's my fault that they take damage, it's their fault that I do so they've just got to go. I'll even murder a shopkeeper preemptively if I haven't taken any damage yet. I'm pretty sure it will happen anyway, so the first one I see dies. I've killed for as little as a pile of ropes and some paste. They deserve it.


Note: I may have more deaths to shopkeepers than anything else in the game. Go out big, I say. Spikes or shopkeeps are the only way to go. Anything else is just whittling away your health waiting for the inevitable end. Too impatient for that. Bang of glory or bust.
 
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nexen

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mannerbot said:
Ugh, you just reminded me of the new "HD" graphics for Escape Goat 2, due to complaints about the pixel graphics of the original. I hate people.
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WTF? This has nothing to do with me; I didn't do a goddamned thing. I've never even played an Escape Goat game!
 
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Rickenslacker

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KenOD said:
I do believe the Shopkeepers in Spelunky just hate me automatically. I didn't attack a single one of them going through the caves with a single incident between me and them. I even complimented one of them for their fine choice in a dog slave booth.

Then I get to the Jungle and due to a random frog explosion I discover a hidden exit, what excitement I felt as I entered the Black Market for the very first time. Alas such excitement was not to last s the moment the stage start I see "TERRORIST!" and a several shop-keepers coming running at me shooting with wild abandonment not caring what or who they hit as long as I died.

Third best game of 2013 indeed SteamGAF.
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Even things outside of your control attacking shopkeepers will aggro them towards you -- it's why I'm always very tense walking through the black market if I haven't already attacked one, there's just plenty of opportunity for a stray hit from something lurking within the level. Such is life in the zone.

But this is all the natural cycle of Spelunky, one that circles around to one definitive truth: shopkeepers must die.
 
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KenOD

a kinder, gentler sort of Scrooge
Now that I think about it, there were the red frogs at the start. Well good to know, though I think I may avoid the black market now just to be safe until I feel more comfortable with the game and enemy shopkeepers. I figure I should actually get past the jungle stage before I focus on that.

Thanks as always for the insight my friends.

nexen said:
WTF? This has nothing to do with me; I didn't do a goddamned thing. I've never even played an Escape Goat game!
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Fix that. Escape goat is a wonderful puzzle platformer that deserves all the love it gets from humans, cats, ducks, robots, Saoirse Ronans, and other creatures.

I personally don't get the issue some had with the pixels, but I also don't mind the new look for Escape Goat 2. I just remember having a lot of fun with it at Casual Connect and being no more off-put by the new look than I was going from Bit.Trip.Runner to it's sequel.
 
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mannerbot

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KenOD said:
Now that I think about it, there were the red frogs at the start. Well good to know, though I think I may avoid the black market now just to be safe until I feel more comfortable with the game and enemy shopkeepers. I figure I should actually get past the jungle stage before I focus on that.

Thanks as always for the insight my friends.



Fix that. Escape goat is a wonderful puzzle platformer that deserves all the love it gets from humans, cats, ducks, robots, Saoirse Ronans, and other creatures.

I personally don't get the issue some had with the pixels, but I also don't mind the new look for Escape Goat 2. I just remember having a lot of fun with it at Casual Connect and being no more off-put by the new look than I was going from Bit.Trip.Runner to it's sequel.
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I've actually never had an orange frog spawn and aggro the shopkeepers, but I also always kill them so...

But in any case, that's a pretty rare unlucky event. You shouldn't let that keep you from going to the black market, it's basically always worth visiting.

And I loved the pixel art of the original. The graphics in the sequel are so bland, low-budget, and soulless. :(
 
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nexen

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KenOD said:
Fix that. Escape goat is a wonderful puzzle platformer that deserves all the love it gets from humans, cats, ducks, robots, Saoirse Ronans, and other creatures.
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When it is in a good sale, I'll buy it. Standard procedure.
Pixel graphics do not bother me, I was raised in 320x200.
That sprite flickering bullshit can go die in a fire though.

edit: I wonder if modern kids will grow up thinking that the entire world was pixelated until around 2000?
 
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Ardvent

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I'm in dire need of a game reccomendation!

I'm looking for either a turned based game or a rougelike, something I can pick and and play for a few minutes, and then visit it again in another hour. A quick burst of gameplay with progression.

I've currently been playing Hearthstone practice matches (so there's no time limit for moves) and Eldritch which I have just beaten.

Huge plus if it runs on linux!
 
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scorpscarx

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Ardvent said:
I'm in dire need of a game reccomendation!

I'm looking for either a turned based game or a rougelike, something I can pick and and play for a few minutes, and then visit it again in another hour. A quick burst of gameplay with progression.

I've currently been playing Hearthstone practice matches (so there's no time limit for moves) and Eldritch which I have just beaten.

Huge plus if it runs on linux!
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Risk of Rain, just pause it.
 
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nexen

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Ardvent said:
I'm in dire need of a game reccomendation!

I'm looking for either a turned based game or a rougelike, something I can pick and and play for a few minutes, and then visit it again in another hour. A quick burst of gameplay with progression.

I've currently been playing Hearthstone practice matches (so there's no time limit for moves) and Eldritch which I have just beaten.

Huge plus if it runs on linux!
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Jagged Alliance 2 is currently on sale. One of the best squad-based, turn-based strategy games ever made by man.
I don't know if it lends itself to quick sessions though. I haven't played it since I came down with responsibilities.
 
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inm8num2

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crazyrabbits said:
I haven't seen any evidence of such an upgrade - has this been announced or confirmed?
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Well the GOTY and Gold editions both had upgrades, so I'm guessing it's just a matter of time before the Complete edition gets one, too. Or it's possible there won't be a Complete upgrade, and they'll want people to buy all the DLC separately.
 
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VoidZero

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Ardvent said:
I'm in dire need of a game reccomendation!

I'm looking for either a turned based game or a rougelike, something I can pick and and play for a few minutes, and then visit it again in another hour. A quick burst of gameplay with progression.

I've currently been playing Hearthstone practice matches (so there's no time limit for moves) and Eldritch which I have just beaten.

Huge plus if it runs on linux!
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You probably have these already, but I recommend Dungeons of Dredmor and Sword of the Stars: the Pit.
 
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toddhunter

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It almost goes without saying, but I have 25 hours in Risk of Rain already and still feel like I could play it a lot more.

Highly recommend for the discounted asking price.

I also believe mutant mud cards are new.
 
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Ardvent

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scorpscarx said:
Risk of Rain, just pause it.
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I really enjoy RoR, but having lost my save twice now really put a damper on me wanting to play the game again. Playing across multiple computers and on friend's machines who also have the game caused a couple issues (unlocked characters disappearing, my achivements don't unlock anymore).

It's still a fantastic game.

nexen said:
Jagged Alliance 2 is currently on sale. One of the best squad-based, turn-based strategy games ever made by man.
I don't know if it lends itself to quick sessions though. I haven't played it since I came down with responsibilities.
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I really liked JA2, but I'm afraid to touch it due to my nostalgia. I also found the game pretty difficult if I recall.

I was looking at Arma Tactics but it's got pretty negative reviews.

VoidZero said:
You probably have these already, but I recommend Dungeons of Dredmor and Sword of the Stars: the Pit.
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Loved Sword of the Stars, I have almost 40 hours in it but it's a shame it's windows only. I never got too far into Dungeons of Dredmor, and much like FTL it logs me out of the current user when running on linux (who knows why).

The bane of a linux gamer :(
 
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woo and indeed hoo

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Ardvent said:
I'm in dire need of a game reccomendation!

I'm looking for either a turned based game or a rougelike, something I can pick and and play for a few minutes, and then visit it again in another hour. A quick burst of gameplay with progression.

I've currently been playing Hearthstone practice matches (so there's no time limit for moves) and Eldritch which I have just beaten.

Huge plus if it runs on linux!
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FTL?
 
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mannerbot

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Ardvent said:
I'm in dire need of a game reccomendation!

I'm looking for either a turned based game or a rougelike, something I can pick and and play for a few minutes, and then visit it again in another hour. A quick burst of gameplay with progression.

I've currently been playing Hearthstone practice matches (so there's no time limit for moves) and Eldritch which I have just beaten.

Huge plus if it runs on linux!
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Recommend Desktop Dungeons, the full version is great but the alpha is free and can give you an idea of whether you'd like it or not. If you're after a rogue-like and not a rougelike there's no shortage of options (vast majority of which are free). Best on Steam is Tales of Maj'Eyal, but you can also just get the free version from their website. Other good ones that aren't on Steam are Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup and Brogue.
 
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