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Xbox One Titanfall Special Edition Bundle announced. $499 at select retailers

Lothars

Member
How exactly were you swindled? Was the Kinect or a Controller missing from your Xbox One when you bought it? I don't understand how you can use swindled?

Did you buy a PS4? Like someone else mentioned, Sony released the PS4 in Japan with Knack included (A $60.00 game), did you feel swindled about that as well?
I own a ps4 as well and don't think it is the same thing because it's only one region, if it was worldwide than its comparable.
 
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Z_Y

Member
Swindled? You got what you paid for.

Swindled may not be the best word for it. Unappreciated might be a better word.

And if you are in the service business the last thing you want to do is make your customers feel as if they aren't appreciated. I think we can all agree...the console industry is a service based industry these days. I didn't just buy a toaster and will get another brand when this one breaks. I'm buying into your ecosystem, I'm paying your subscription fees, etc.

If this happened next Fall I don't think anybody here would have blinked an eye. I know I wouldn't have. But this is different and I think everybody in this thread knows that but some are being intentionally obtuse. This isn't a Forza bundle. This is a bundle with their biggest game of the year being announced before you can even buy said game. This decision wasn't made last week.

Again...let me be clear before anybody claims I'm being entitled again...I do not expect anything. I am just surprised that MS didn't anticipate some sort of blow back and had plans in place to appease their most loyal customer base.
 
So not only did they pay a ton to keep it from appearing on Playstation but they are giving it away for free now?

Nice.

MS doesn't give two shits about selling copies of Titanfall, they want HW sales. they're betting that that particular game will do it.

this is why they probably don't care about the sequel, as long as they get a large userbase early and continue to sell consoles they'll settle back into the 3-4 game cycle until the end of the generation.
 

Bizazedo

Member
Swindled may not be the best word for it. Unappreciated might be a better word.

And if you are in the service business the last thing you want to do is make your customers feel as if they aren't appreciated. I think we can all agree...the console industry is a service based industry these days. I didn't just buy a toaster and will get another brand when this one breaks. I'm buying into your ecosystem, I'm paying your subscription fees, etc.

If this happened next Fall I don't think anybody here would have blinked an eye. I know I wouldn't have. But this is different and I think everybody in this thread knows that but some are being intentionally obtuse. This isn't a Forza bundle. This is a bundle with their biggest game of the year being announced before you can even buy said game. This decision wasn't made last week.

Again...let me be clear before anybody claims I'm being entitled again...I do not expect anything. I am just surprised that MS didn't anticipate some sort of blow back and had plans in place to appease their most loyal customer base.

THAT IS SUCH AN.....understandable and well put counter-argument. I can get behind that more than other arguments.
 

Z_Y

Member
So Nintendo and Sony should he in the same hot water, right? Half a year after release Nintendo included all $80 worth of NSMBU content in a bundle, and Sony included Knack for free with the Japanese launch.

Microsoft wants to move systems. If you wanted the best deal possible you shouldn't have bought at launch.

1)NSMBU was a launch game and was bundled later. Not the same thing.

2)Re:Sony/Knack Different regions. Apples and oranges.
 

gatti-man

Member
Swindled may not be the best word for it. Unappreciated might be a better word.

And if you are in the service business the last thing you want to do is make your customers feel as if they aren't appreciated. I think we can all agree...the console industry is a service based industry these days. I didn't just buy a toaster and will get another brand when this one breaks. I'm buying into your ecosystem, I'm paying your subscription fees, etc.

If this happened next Fall I don't think anybody here would have blinked an eye. I know I wouldn't have. But this is different and I think everybody in this thread knows that but some are being intentionally obtuse. This isn't a Forza bundle. This is a bundle with their biggest game of the year being announced before you can even buy said game. This decision wasn't made last week.

Again...let me be clear before anybody claims I'm being entitled again...I do not expect anything. I am just surprised that MS didn't anticipate some sort of blow back and had plans in place to appease their most loyal customer base.

+1

This is just bad business. I'm a core gamer and spend money on ms peoducts. I don't abuse the system and have always supported ms with my money throughout every generation. To give me the middle finger like this is just dumb. Because I won't be back. Loyalty is earned and I was loyal to both sony and Ms bc in the past They both took care of me. Now it's just sony. That's bad business for ms.
 
I don't understand this bundle. This early in the game, at 500 dollars, the folks who want Titanfall should already own the console. $60 ain't a thing at this point unless you're already on the fence. And they didn't even throw in the Titanfall controller.

I'm getting the feeling that this game isn't going to be the system seller that it's been hyped as. Not because of its own merits, but because of that $500 price tag.

I think you hit the nail on the head. They want to go beyond the early adopter who already had Titanfall in mind but this move won't get them there. Titanfall will move more systems by word of mouth more than anything else. This system bundle will only mop up those still intending to get an Xbone for Titanfall.

But I still think Titanfall will carry a legacy throughout gaming. Burn cards will quickly be copied and I think game designers are already thinking about adding mechs to their games.It will be influential even if it doesn't reach the Call of Duty sales level that Microsoft hopes it achieves.
 

weevles

Member
This bundle obviously isn't meant for people who did Day1 or otherwise already have it. I don't think it is a disservice to them either. It's good business for MS because there are plenty of people who don't own an XBO and Titanfall may be incentive for them to buy a console.

It won't work on me because I can enjoy Titanfall on my PC without shelling out $500 for a console I currently don't want or need at the moment, but that's neither here nor there.
 

gatti-man

Member
This bundle obviously isn't meant for people who did Day1 or otherwise already have it. I don't think it is a disservice to them either. It's good business for MS because there are plenty of people who don't an XBO and Titanfall may be incentive for them to buy a console.

It won't work on me because I can enjoy Titanfall on my PC without shelling out $500 for a console I currently don't want or need at the moment, but that's neither here nor there.

Imagine the new iPhone cutting it's price 3 months after release or new ipad? These are devices that are expected to maintain their price and value for at least 8-12 months after release. It does make customers angry and hurt brand image as well as customer loyalty. That's just common sense.
 
So Nintendo and Sony should he in the same hot water, right? Half a year after release Nintendo included all $80 worth of NSMBU content in a bundle, and Sony included Knack for free with the Japanese launch.

Microsoft wants to move systems. If you wanted the best deal possible you shouldn't have bought at launch.
Wii U was failing anyway and Japan is Japan. All we know is there's a console here that should theoretically have been in 1st place out of the gate, then said some shit, now in 2nd, and had a massive drop-off last month (and probably this month, really) in the markets that were #1 and #2 for its immediate predecessor.

So, yes, they are doing this to prevent a downward trend from manifesting itself over the long-term. They are definitely "learning", but don't pretend they don't see a depreciating sales curve in their strongest markets forming if they don't start doing drastic actions, hence this TitanFall bundle.

And it won't be the last.
 

Toki767

Member
Imagine the new iPhone cutting it's price 3 months after release or new ipad? These are devices that are expected to maintain their price and value for at least 8-12 months after release. It does make customers angry and hurt brand image as well as customer loyalty. That's just common sense.

Apple sure as hell didn't do anything for the people who bought the iPad 3 only to get a revised version 6 months later.
 

GobFather

Member
The savings has always been there... Not tooo much of a difference in savings from the $50 off at Target or that there was always $20 discount at Costco($479.99)? This saves $10 more than the target right? Since the game is $59.99? Same as the free FIFA game in Europe during launch right? Still a good deal for those that wanted titanfall for xbox1. I think kinect less would move more hardware since it will have a bigger price drop as well, but i understand why they keep it too.
 

weevles

Member
Imagine the new iPhone cutting it's price 3 months after release or new ipad? These are devices that are expected to maintain their price and value for at least 8-12 months after release. It does make customers angry and hurt brand image as well as customer loyalty. That's just common sense.


Bad example because Apple never cuts prices on anything. They shuffle SKUs around when new hardware is introduced, which is not the same thing.

I know what you're saying, but in the US, the XBO is not getting a cut in price, it just gets a DL game bundled in at no extra cost.

If you're an early adopter, you should go in with the understanding that the console could undergo changes: the company might create interesting bundles in the future, the hardware might be streamlined with potential improvements, and the price will eventually go down as economies of scale take shape. I made a choice in getting a PS4 now rather than later, and I have to live with that choice when Sony releases their bundles, slim PS4, lower price, etc etc etc. Same with XBO owners.
 

border

Member
I'm an Xbox One owner. I don't care. I traded in a launch title and will be getting Titanfall for $20 anyway.

I don't understand why people are so salty over this. When Sony or MS do a "Holiday bundle" that includes free games, nobody is this upset or indignant. Nobody says that Sony "doesn't take care of their customers" because they start bundling in a copy of The Last of Us with new systems.
 
I was buying a PS4, wanted an X1 for exclusives and didn't care about Kinect. Here's what I did:

Xbox 1 day one from Amazon. (no tax) - ($500)
5% cashback ($475)
Sell the Kinect on eBay $160 ($315)
Sell the achievement $40 ($275)
Sell the day 1 controller for a $110 (-$60 for new controller) ($225)
10% fees on $250 ($250)


$250 is what I paid for the console. I wanted a gaming machine and I made it happen.
Yes people really buy Kinects on Ebay. Only con I see is upload studio for some reason wont work without Kinect.I may still sell it if the 360 Titanfall plays really well.
 

Prezhulio

Member
A bundle like this should have been very much expected since Sony undercut ms by $100 at launch, but it still stings being a "day one" sucker lol.

On a similar note - Does anyone else's day one controller feel flimsy compared to the standard Xbone controller? My extra controller is rock solid but the left handle and right bumper on the day one ensigned controller are loose as hell. Think I'll see if ms can replace it
 
A bundle like this should have been very much expected since Sony undercut ms by $100 at launch, but it still stings being a "day one" sucker lol.

On a similar note - Does anyone else's day one controller feel flimsy compared to the standard Xbone controller? My extra controller is rock solid but the left handle and right bumper on the day one ensigned controller are loose as hell. Think I'll see if ms can replace it

Yes my day one controller is like that as well. It's weird but it doesn't affect gameplay so I haven't complained.
 
My issue with this is that since launch MS has been giving the hard sell with "BUY BUY BUY...Go right now and get an XBOX ONE...Don't Wait!!!"

and now that has turned into "Congratulations for having the patience to wait a whole 3 months to buy an XBOX ONE. Here's a free game on us."
 

Lothars

Member
I'm an Xbox One owner. I don't care. I traded in a launch title and will be getting Titanfall for $20 anyway.

I don't understand why people are so salty over this. When Sony or MS do a "Holiday bundle" that includes free games, nobody is this upset or indignant. Nobody says that Sony "doesn't take care of their customers" because they start bundling in a copy of The Last of Us with new systems.
Its two totally different things those are released a year or two later not 3 months with an identical bundle from launch with the big game for the system. I don't get how anyone can defend ms over this.
 

xkramz

Member
It piss me off when early adopters get mad because of a price drop later on. Lol

We should be happy for all the new comers who couldn't afford it at launch. We can't be greedy. Now can we?
 

PhatSaqs

Banned
Its two totally different things those are released a year or two later not 3 months with an identical bundle from launch with the big game for the system. I don't get how anyone can defend ms over this.
It's the same for people that just bought the console 3 or so months prior to the bundle...
 

Lothars

Member
It's the same for people that just bought the console 3 or so months prior to the bundle...
No its still totally different because the system just launched if it was out a year and someone buys it 9 months in than they should expect bundles or something coming out sooner than later but 3 months after launch is bullshit.
 

statham

Member
I was buying a PS4, wanted an X1 for exclusives and didn't care about Kinect. Here's what I did:

Xbox 1 day one from Amazon. (no tax) - ($500)
5% cashback ($475)
Sell the Kinect on eBay $160 ($315)
Sell the achievement $40 ($275)
Sell the day 1 controller for a $110 (-$60 for new controller) ($225)
10% fees on $250 ($250)


$250 is what I paid for the console. I wanted a gaming machine and I made it happen.
Yes people really buy Kinects on Ebay. Only con I see is upload studio for some reason wont work without Kinect.I may still sell it if the 360 Titanfall plays really well.
I've been trying to tell people if they really want a kinect-less version, people buy them up on ebay. I usually see them go $90-$120, & achievement codes still usually go for above $20 too.
 

gatti-man

Member
Apple sure as hell didn't do anything for the people who bought the iPad 3 only to get a revised version 6 months later.

Six months is 180 days not 90. That's twice the time. Still quick but I wouldn't be nearly as salty.

Bad example because Apple never cuts prices on anything. They shuffle SKUs around when new hardware is introduced, which is not the same thing.

I know what you're saying, but in the US, the XBO is not getting a cut in price, it just gets a DL game bundled in at no extra cost.

If you're an early adopter, you should go in with the understanding that the console could undergo changes: the company might create interesting bundles in the future, the hardware might be streamlined with potential improvements, and the price will eventually go down as economies of scale take shape. I made a choice in getting a PS4 now rather than later, and I have to live with that choice when Sony releases their bundles, slim PS4, lower price, etc etc etc. Same with XBO owners.

I see what you are saying but understand this never happens. Not even the 599 ps3 did this, this quickly. It's literally an industry first to punk your early adopters this way. Only the 3ds did something like it but with all the free games it was actually a good deal.

It's an industry first. I've been gaming since the commodore 64 I know what to expect. This was unexpected. If you asked 1000 people pre launch if they thought titanfall would be a free pack in 3 months into the launch 1000 people would all say no.
 

border

Member
Its two totally different things those are released a year or two later not 3 months with an identical bundle from launch with the big game for the system. I don't get how anyone can defend ms over this.

How is it that different than me buying a new system in September, only to have a holiday bundle show up in stores 2 months later? Anytime you pack a game in you're essentially screwing over somebody that bought the barebones bundle.
 

cakely

Member
I was buying a PS4, wanted an X1 for exclusives and didn't care about Kinect. Here's what I did:

Xbox 1 day one from Amazon. (no tax) - ($500)
5% cashback ($475)
Sell the Kinect on eBay $160 ($315)
Sell the achievement $40 ($275)
Sell the day 1 controller for a $110 (-$60 for new controller) ($225)
10% fees on $250 ($250)


$250 is what I paid for the console. I wanted a gaming machine and I made it happen.
Yes people really buy Kinects on Ebay. Only con I see is upload studio for some reason wont work without Kinect.I may still sell it if the 360 Titanfall plays really well.

You got $160 for your Kinect? Great idea ... and you got a great price. I think that bird has flown, though. The one I can see listed on Ebay is currently being bidded at for $31.
 
I've been trying to tell people if they really want a kinect-less version, people buy them up on ebay. I usually see them go $90-$120, & achievement codes still usually go for above $20 too.

Yeah you may not get what I got because that was back at launch, but you can definitely knock off some of the price.
 
I don't understand this bundle. This early in the game, at 500 dollars, the folks who want Titanfall should already own the console. $60 ain't a thing at this point unless you're already on the fence. And they didn't even throw in the Titanfall controller.

I'm getting the feeling that this game isn't going to be the system seller that it's been hyped as. Not because of its own merits, but because of that $500 price tag.

Already know someone who pre-ordered this bundle (and previously told me there was no way he was buying an Xbox One). I don't think people who are on the fence about the console want an ugly Titanfall themed console or controller.
 

mcfrank

Member
Bad example because Apple never cuts prices on anything. They shuffle SKUs around when new hardware is introduced, which is not the same thing.

I know what you're saying, but in the US, the XBO is not getting a cut in price, it just gets a DL game bundled in at no extra cost.

If you're an early adopter, you should go in with the understanding that the console could undergo changes: the company might create interesting bundles in the future, the hardware might be streamlined with potential improvements, and the price will eventually go down as economies of scale take shape. I made a choice in getting a PS4 now rather than later, and I have to live with that choice when Sony releases their bundles, slim PS4, lower price, etc etc etc. Same with XBO owners.

Apple cut the price of the original iPhone 2 months after release. They issued $100 iTunes cards to early adopters.

To all iPhone customers:

I have received hundreds of emails from iPhone customers who are upset about Apple dropping the price of iPhone by $200 two months after it went on sale. After reading every one of these emails, I have some observations and conclusions.

First, I am sure that we are making the correct decision to lower the price of the 8GB iPhone from $599 to $399, and that now is the right time to do it. iPhone is a breakthrough product, and we have the chance to 'go for it' this holiday season. iPhone is so far ahead of the competition, and now it will be affordable by even more customers. It benefits both Apple and every iPhone user to get as many new customers as possible in the iPhone 'tent'. We strongly believe the $399 price will help us do just that this holiday season.

Second, being in technology for 30+ years I can attest to the fact that the technology road is bumpy. There is always change and improvement, and there is always someone who bought a product before a particular cutoff date and misses the new price or the new operating system or the new whatever. This is life in the technology lane. If you always wait for the next price cut or to buy the new improved model, you'll never buy any technology product because there is always something better and less expensive on the horizon. The good news is that if you buy products from companies that support them well, like Apple tries to do, you will receive years of useful and satisfying service from them even as newer models are introduced.

Third, even though we are making the right decision to lower the price of iPhone, and even though the technology road is bumpy, we need to do a better job taking care of our early iPhone customers as we aggressively go after new ones with a lower price. Our early customers trusted us, and we must live up to that trust with our actions in moments like these.

Therefore, we have decided to offer every iPhone customer who purchased an iPhone from either Apple or AT&T, and who is not receiving a rebate or any other consideration, a $100 store credit towards the purchase of any product at an Apple Retail Store or the Apple Online Store. Details are still being worked out and will be posted on Apple's website next week. Stay tuned.

We want to do the right thing for our valued iPhone customers. We apologize for disappointing some of you, and we are doing our best to live up to your high expectations of Apple.

Steve Jobs
Apple CEO
 

gatti-man

Member
So if MS announced tomorrow that they are delaying TF for 3 months you would be okay with them bundling it then?

If this news hit 2 months after the TF release I would be less salty and it would make more sense. 6 months is still early and their would still be blow back but it would be considerably less imho.
 

Lothars

Member
How is it that different than me buying a new system in September, only to have a holiday bundle show up in stores 2 months later? Anytime you pack a game in you're essentially screwing over somebody that bought the barebones bundle.
If your buying it just before the holiday than it should be no surprise there will be a holiday bundle. The system just came out in November, if it's been a year or the next holiday than it is different. The only people being screwed by this are early adopters.
 
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