I own a ps4 as well and don't think it is the same thing because it's only one region, if it was worldwide than its comparable.How exactly were you swindled? Was the Kinect or a Controller missing from your Xbox One when you bought it? I don't understand how you can use swindled?
Did you buy a PS4? Like someone else mentioned, Sony released the PS4 in Japan with Knack included (A $60.00 game), did you feel swindled about that as well?
Not sure if it was mentioned, but Gamestop has it up for pre-order as well now.
Agreed. At least 6 months.Should have included a year of LIVE as well and it would be a great deal.
I don't want to play with no dirty phillies' fan!Nice, I need more people on my FL to play Titanfall with.
They don't really have any other exclusives until Sunset Overdrive which is out later this year, so if they want to create some kind of plan/excitement refresh, then this is their only chance until Fall.
Swindled? You got what you paid for.
So not only did they pay a ton to keep it from appearing on Playstation but they are giving it away for free now?
Nice.
Swindled may not be the best word for it. Unappreciated might be a better word.
And if you are in the service business the last thing you want to do is make your customers feel as if they aren't appreciated. I think we can all agree...the console industry is a service based industry these days. I didn't just buy a toaster and will get another brand when this one breaks. I'm buying into your ecosystem, I'm paying your subscription fees, etc.
If this happened next Fall I don't think anybody here would have blinked an eye. I know I wouldn't have. But this is different and I think everybody in this thread knows that but some are being intentionally obtuse. This isn't a Forza bundle. This is a bundle with their biggest game of the year being announced before you can even buy said game. This decision wasn't made last week.
Again...let me be clear before anybody claims I'm being entitled again...I do not expect anything. I am just surprised that MS didn't anticipate some sort of blow back and had plans in place to appease their most loyal customer base.
So Nintendo and Sony should he in the same hot water, right? Half a year after release Nintendo included all $80 worth of NSMBU content in a bundle, and Sony included Knack for free with the Japanese launch.
Microsoft wants to move systems. If you wanted the best deal possible you shouldn't have bought at launch.
Swindled may not be the best word for it. Unappreciated might be a better word.
And if you are in the service business the last thing you want to do is make your customers feel as if they aren't appreciated. I think we can all agree...the console industry is a service based industry these days. I didn't just buy a toaster and will get another brand when this one breaks. I'm buying into your ecosystem, I'm paying your subscription fees, etc.
If this happened next Fall I don't think anybody here would have blinked an eye. I know I wouldn't have. But this is different and I think everybody in this thread knows that but some are being intentionally obtuse. This isn't a Forza bundle. This is a bundle with their biggest game of the year being announced before you can even buy said game. This decision wasn't made last week.
Again...let me be clear before anybody claims I'm being entitled again...I do not expect anything. I am just surprised that MS didn't anticipate some sort of blow back and had plans in place to appease their most loyal customer base.
Y U H8 Kinect Sports?
I don't understand this bundle. This early in the game, at 500 dollars, the folks who want Titanfall should already own the console. $60 ain't a thing at this point unless you're already on the fence. And they didn't even throw in the Titanfall controller.
I'm getting the feeling that this game isn't going to be the system seller that it's been hyped as. Not because of its own merits, but because of that $500 price tag.
THAT IS SUCH AN.....understandable and well put counter-argument. I can get behind that more than other arguments.
This bundle obviously isn't meant for people who did Day1 or otherwise already have it. I don't think it is a disservice to them either. It's good business for MS because there are plenty of people who don't an XBO and Titanfall may be incentive for them to buy a console.
It won't work on me because I can enjoy Titanfall on my PC without shelling out $500 for a console I currently don't want or need at the moment, but that's neither here nor there.
Wii U was failing anyway and Japan is Japan. All we know is there's a console here that should theoretically have been in 1st place out of the gate, then said some shit, now in 2nd, and had a massive drop-off last month (and probably this month, really) in the markets that were #1 and #2 for its immediate predecessor.So Nintendo and Sony should he in the same hot water, right? Half a year after release Nintendo included all $80 worth of NSMBU content in a bundle, and Sony included Knack for free with the Japanese launch.
Microsoft wants to move systems. If you wanted the best deal possible you shouldn't have bought at launch.
Imagine the new iPhone cutting it's price 3 months after release or new ipad? These are devices that are expected to maintain their price and value for at least 8-12 months after release. It does make customers angry and hurt brand image as well as customer loyalty. That's just common sense.
Imagine the new iPhone cutting it's price 3 months after release or new ipad? These are devices that are expected to maintain their price and value for at least 8-12 months after release. It does make customers angry and hurt brand image as well as customer loyalty. That's just common sense.
This bundle and price drop combo is gonna be huge. Anyone who thinks any different is delusional.
Apple sure as hell didn't do anything for the people who bought the iPad 3 only to get a revised version 6 months later.
Should have included a year of LIVE as well and it would be a great deal.
This bundle and price drop combo is gonna be huge. Anyone who thinks any different is delusional.
A bundle like this should have been very much expected since Sony undercut ms by $100 at launch, but it still stings being a "day one" sucker lol.
On a similar note - Does anyone else's day one controller feel flimsy compared to the standard Xbone controller? My extra controller is rock solid but the left handle and right bumper on the day one ensigned controller are loose as hell. Think I'll see if ms can replace it
Its two totally different things those are released a year or two later not 3 months with an identical bundle from launch with the big game for the system. I don't get how anyone can defend ms over this.I'm an Xbox One owner. I don't care. I traded in a launch title and will be getting Titanfall for $20 anyway.
I don't understand why people are so salty over this. When Sony or MS do a "Holiday bundle" that includes free games, nobody is this upset or indignant. Nobody says that Sony "doesn't take care of their customers" because they start bundling in a copy of The Last of Us with new systems.
It's the same for people that just bought the console 3 or so months prior to the bundle...Its two totally different things those are released a year or two later not 3 months with an identical bundle from launch with the big game for the system. I don't get how anyone can defend ms over this.
No its still totally different because the system just launched if it was out a year and someone buys it 9 months in than they should expect bundles or something coming out sooner than later but 3 months after launch is bullshit.It's the same for people that just bought the console 3 or so months prior to the bundle...
I've been trying to tell people if they really want a kinect-less version, people buy them up on ebay. I usually see them go $90-$120, & achievement codes still usually go for above $20 too.I was buying a PS4, wanted an X1 for exclusives and didn't care about Kinect. Here's what I did:
Xbox 1 day one from Amazon. (no tax) - ($500)
5% cashback ($475)
Sell the Kinect on eBay $160 ($315)
Sell the achievement $40 ($275)
Sell the day 1 controller for a $110 (-$60 for new controller) ($225)
10% fees on $250 ($250)
$250 is what I paid for the console. I wanted a gaming machine and I made it happen.
Yes people really buy Kinects on Ebay. Only con I see is upload studio for some reason wont work without Kinect.I may still sell it if the 360 Titanfall plays really well.
Apple sure as hell didn't do anything for the people who bought the iPad 3 only to get a revised version 6 months later.
Bad example because Apple never cuts prices on anything. They shuffle SKUs around when new hardware is introduced, which is not the same thing.
I know what you're saying, but in the US, the XBO is not getting a cut in price, it just gets a DL game bundled in at no extra cost.
If you're an early adopter, you should go in with the understanding that the console could undergo changes: the company might create interesting bundles in the future, the hardware might be streamlined with potential improvements, and the price will eventually go down as economies of scale take shape. I made a choice in getting a PS4 now rather than later, and I have to live with that choice when Sony releases their bundles, slim PS4, lower price, etc etc etc. Same with XBO owners.
Its two totally different things those are released a year or two later not 3 months with an identical bundle from launch with the big game for the system. I don't get how anyone can defend ms over this.
Six months is 180 days not 90. That's twice the time. Still quick but I wouldn't be nearly as salty.
I was buying a PS4, wanted an X1 for exclusives and didn't care about Kinect. Here's what I did:
Xbox 1 day one from Amazon. (no tax) - ($500)
5% cashback ($475)
Sell the Kinect on eBay $160 ($315)
Sell the achievement $40 ($275)
Sell the day 1 controller for a $110 (-$60 for new controller) ($225)
10% fees on $250 ($250)
$250 is what I paid for the console. I wanted a gaming machine and I made it happen.
Yes people really buy Kinects on Ebay. Only con I see is upload studio for some reason wont work without Kinect.I may still sell it if the 360 Titanfall plays really well.
I've been trying to tell people if they really want a kinect-less version, people buy them up on ebay. I usually see them go $90-$120, & achievement codes still usually go for above $20 too.
This bundle and price drop combo is gonna be huge. Anyone who thinks any different is delusional.
You got $160 for your Kinect? Great idea ... and you got a great price. I think that bird has flown, though. The one I can see listed on Ebay is currently being bidded at for $31.
I don't understand this bundle. This early in the game, at 500 dollars, the folks who want Titanfall should already own the console. $60 ain't a thing at this point unless you're already on the fence. And they didn't even throw in the Titanfall controller.
I'm getting the feeling that this game isn't going to be the system seller that it's been hyped as. Not because of its own merits, but because of that $500 price tag.
Bad example because Apple never cuts prices on anything. They shuffle SKUs around when new hardware is introduced, which is not the same thing.
I know what you're saying, but in the US, the XBO is not getting a cut in price, it just gets a DL game bundled in at no extra cost.
If you're an early adopter, you should go in with the understanding that the console could undergo changes: the company might create interesting bundles in the future, the hardware might be streamlined with potential improvements, and the price will eventually go down as economies of scale take shape. I made a choice in getting a PS4 now rather than later, and I have to live with that choice when Sony releases their bundles, slim PS4, lower price, etc etc etc. Same with XBO owners.
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So if MS announced tomorrow that they are delaying TF for 3 months you would be okay with them bundling it then?
If your buying it just before the holiday than it should be no surprise there will be a holiday bundle. The system just came out in November, if it's been a year or the next holiday than it is different. The only people being screwed by this are early adopters.How is it that different than me buying a new system in September, only to have a holiday bundle show up in stores 2 months later? Anytime you pack a game in you're essentially screwing over somebody that bought the barebones bundle.