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[TGO]

Can you please take the console warrior bullshit someplace else? No one wants to read that shit here.

Now now, I'm just curious why the footage we saw was flawless and I was told it would look like the 2012 trailer if not better and here I see people saying it's unoptimized and could run worse if you don't have the brute power to do so, no need to PC warrior on me
Afterall wouldn't the PC's performance effect the consoles? Doesn't look!good for the consoles versions if the PC is unoptimized

 

[Objectively Bad Opinion]

Ugh... not sure if I want to go pc or ps4 on this. I've had my i5 2500k (currently at 4.2) and my gtx 570 since early 2011 and upgraded my gpu to a r9 280x (asus dual fan) late last year when it was released. What do you guys think?

Side note, I have to say that the 2500k has to be one of the best cpus likely of all time imo.

Edit: Any word on mantle support for WD?

Nope, WD is an Nvidia game.

4670K - 4 cores
4770k - 4 cores with HT (Ubi seems to categorize this as 8 cores)

Oh. Well Ubisoft is dumb then. What are the chances this will be a game where HT actually makes a difference?

 

[DeFiBkIlLeR]

Not all cores are created equal.

For a start, Intel cores are at least 40% faster per core at the same clock speed.

The only reason Ubisoft recommends an 8 core AMD CPU is simply because each of those 8 cores is very weak in comparison to the Intel CPU.

Any recent Intel 4 core CPU running @3Ghz+ will be more than enough for these console ports.

Also, HT is completely useless if 4 cores are being pushed 100%, it's why the likes of BF4 do not benefit from CPU's with HT...there is no spare capacity available within the CPU for HT to kick in.

People are panicking over nothing.

 

[brain_stew]

I'd rather buy the PS4 version then have a below par experience on my 780/3570k like nearly every other ubisoft game has been, I'm fine with 30 fps on a controller, and assuming its 1080p it will likely look almost the same as the PC like AC4 barring some nvidia tech, hence why I'm not buying this on PC.

Then use your PS4 controller on the PC and limit the frame rate to 30fps. There's no way the PS4 version is going to be better than it is on your rig.

 

[Seanspeed]

Ugh... not sure if I want to go pc or ps4 on this. I've had my i5 2500k (currently at 4.2) and my gtx 570 since early 2011 and upgraded my gpu to a r9 280x (asus dual fan) late last year when it was released. What do you guys think?

Side note, I have to say that the 2500k has to be one of the best cpus likely of all time imo.

Edit: Any word on mantle support for WD?

PC version without a doubt. That's a good rig you've got there.

I don't even see how its an argument.

 

[Durante]

I was surprised by this thread title, then I realized that it was most likely based on the common misconception of what a core is. No i7 processor has 8 cores.

 

[knerlington]

4770k and 580 here, buying the ps4 version, this screams unoptimized. Besides trophies > steam achiements.

What was the recommended Intel CPU for Assassin's Creed 4 now again?
Running that game with ~40fps maxed out (w/o physx) using an i5 2500K @ 4.3GHz and a 660Ti. Guessing Watch Dogs will run similar to that.
While Hyper Threading (if optimized for it) does add a noticeable performance boost it's hardly needed to get great performance. Crysis 3 is a good example of this.

 

[Qassim]

Why hasn't the thread title been changed yet? It's misleading.

 

[casmith07]

I have a 4670k and GTX 760.

1366x768 at 10 FPS with no AA low settings here I come!

Lmao...I also have a GTX 760 and i5-3470k(?).

Skyrim looks like real life on my system.


I think I'll be fine for Watch_Doges.

 

[kharma45]

Actually performs well in Crysis 3. Cryengine 3 is really well optimised for 8 core CPUs.

Crysis3 was AMD-sponsored game, Crytek optimized game well for 8 cores.

Yep. Oddly though it seems to totally ignore HT on Intel CPUs.

Not really a true N threaded game like Civ V is.

Also as already mentioned in this thread, benches can vary quite a lot

 

[fasTRapid]

My 560 Ti still beastin' after all these years.

Mine only has 1GB...

Spoiler

but it's so silent! *-*

 

[lucebuce12]

Also as already mentioned in this thread, benches can vary quite a lot

I think that's because they were testing a scenario where its was GPU-limited. If they turned the settings down, then they could more accurately compare the differences from the CPU.

 

[Renekton]

Da fuck? I have 4670k @4.2Ghz and a 780 and it runs AC4 fine with just about everything cranked up. So if don't think your rig can handle this game, well I don't know what tell you. maybe sell it too someone who will utilize it.

Also I see you post in a lot of these tech threads like you know what your talking about, and mostly you're dead wrong or spouting tales from your ass.

There were people with good rigs (eg GTX680) having FPS issues on AC4, so YMMV.

 

[riflen]

I think that's because they were testing a scenario where its was GPU-limited. If they turned the settings down, then they could more accurately compare the differences from the CPU.

I think he's aware of that. I believe the point he's making is that in almost all games, people play with settings that mean they're GPU-limited and also that a single benchmark is good for nothing. It'll be the same case with watch_dogs.

 

[Ashariel]

Not all cores are created equal.

For a start, Intel cores are at least 40% faster per core at the same clock speed.

The only reason Ubisoft recommends an 8 core AMD CPU is simply because each of those 8 cores is very weak in comparison to the Intel CPU.

Any recent Intel 4 core CPU running @3Ghz+ will be more than enough for these console ports.

Also, HT is completely useless if 4 cores are being pushed 100%, it's why the likes of BF4 do not benefit from CPU's with HT...there is no spare capacity available within the CPU for HT to kick in.

People are panicking over nothing.

BF4 benefits greatly from having HT turned on in large multilayer matches. I get a lot of hitching and very high CPU usage with it off during heavy physics events.

 

[Sutton Dagger]

There were people with good rigs (eg GTX680) having FPS issues on AC4, so YMMV.

Yes, 'issues' where they couldn't keep it at a constant 60fps. In any case it will almost certainly run/look better on a 680 and a sandy/ivy processor than the consoles. The shitty CPU optimisation of Anvil wasn't enough to stop a decent rig from smoking the console versions anyway. I was playing at 2560x1440 at 30fps on a 670/3570k.

 

[Guri]

Oh, wow. The game is really expensive on Steam here in Brazil. Way above the average, even for AAA games. No way I'm going to buy this at launch.. Your move, Ubisoft.

 

[dab0ne]

Day 1

Spoiler

80

 

[Yoda]

Another optimized mess from Ubisoft!

 

[aY227]

Oh, wow. The game is really expensive on Steam here in Brazil. Way above the average, even for AAA games. No way I'm going to buy this at launch.. Your move, Ubisoft.

So buy it from GMG?

 

[Twinduct]

So what's a decentish upgrade (in the nvidia range) for the 580gtx?
Don't need high-level shit, just a decent upgrade.

 

[kharma45]

So what's a decentish upgrade (in the nvidia range) for the 580gtx?
Don't need high-level shit, just a decent upgrade.

Depends on what you can spend. You'd still get decent money from selling your 580 too.

 

[nemesun]

My bicycle powered 8800GT PC gonna run this baby on max.

 

[Dictator93]

BTW, to the poster claiming Crysis 3 does not scale with HT:
IT DOES

 

[Twinduct]

Depends on what you can spend. You'd still get decent money from selling your 580 too.

Yeah looking into that. In terms of spending I'm mostly looking into a near future purchase. So right now the only money constrained would be not the most expensive thing and etc.

Would something like a 760 be a decent enough upgrade? I don't need a 100% increase in performance. The 580 is still a beast so a slight preformance increase it decent enough for me. The biggest reason I want to update is the Vram and well just getting a more modern/ supported card.

 

[Trojan X]

Does an 8-core i7 3770 even exist?

That's gotta be a typo.

My thoughts exactly. I thought the 3770 is a hex-core processor.

 

[Qassim]

My thoughts exactly. I thought the 3770 is a hex-core processor.

It's not even that. It's a quad core processor.

 

[Jawmuncher]

PS4 version it is then. I'm not dealing with that bullshit and I have an i7

 

[Guri]

So buy it from GMG?

Ubisoft did a currency conversion for Watch Dogs. So it's basically the equivalent of US$ 60. However, the usual price for AAA games on Steam here, including Assassin's Creed IV, is around US$ 40. Activision tried to do the same thing around a year go, but people complained and they went back to the "default" price.

 

[Nzyme32]

This is sounding like the call of duty ghosts PC situation. i7 3770 is not an 8 core processor and I'm pretty sure intel doesn't have any i5 or i7 8 core processors. Using logical cores/hyper threading as an 8 core requirement is utterly disingenuous

 

[Renekton]

Yeah looking into that. In terms of spending I'm mostly looking into a near future purchase. So right now the only money constrained would be not the most expensive thing and etc.

Would something like a 760 be a decent enough upgrade? I don't need a 100% increase in performance. The 580 is still a beast so a slight preformance increase it decent enough for me. The biggest reason I want to update is the Vram and well just getting a more modern/ supported card.

Yeah GTX760 is a sweet spot card.

 

[kharma45]

Yeah looking into that. In terms of spending I'm mostly looking into a near future purchase. So right now the only money constrained would be not the most expensive thing and etc.

Would something like a 760 be a decent enough upgrade? I don't need a 100% increase in performance. The 580 is still a beast so a slight preformance increase it decent enough for me. The biggest reason I want to update is the Vram and well just getting a more modern/ supported card.

10-15% boost is what you'd get from that move. Depends on what your 580 is clocked at now and which 760 you got. If it's a stock 580 then it's the 10% figure, but if you moved to say a 760 Hawk which is the fastest 760 iirc you'd get around 20% better.

BTW, to the poster claiming Crysis 3 does not scale with HT:
IT DOES

I'd be interested to see the thread load like the graph I had posted. I found someone else did their own graphs on OCN

 

[LumpOfCole]

Usually I preorder titles, but I've never wanted to wait for reviews as badly as I do with Watch Dogs.

 

[Confidence Man]

Can't believe a 560ti is recommended. Not that I'm complaining as I have that card, but I'm looking for something to push me over the edge to upgrade.

 

[Chance Hale]

PS4 version it is then. I'm not dealing with that bullshit and I have an i7

That's rather silly given the unoptimized Ubisoft games generally have an issue with hitting a steady 60, not 30. Locking the game to 30 FPS would lead in a much better and likely more consistent package than the PS4 version. Not to mention Ubisoft likes to exaggerates specs at time.

 

[matrix-cat]

Have they announced the one-month delay for the PC version yet?

 

[ACE 1991]

Can't believe a 560ti is recommended. Not that I'm complaining as I have that card, but I'm looking for something to push me over the edge to upgrade.

I've got the AMD equivalent (6950) and I still don't see a huge reason to upgrade yet. I think selling my 6950 at the end of the summer and grabbing a 770 might be a good upgrade though. I'm guessing I've still got a few years left in my 2500K @ 4.0ghz? Couldn't get a stable OC above 4.0, sadly.

 

[CouchMaster]

Isn't Watch Dogs running on completely new engine built from scratch with only few elements taken from Anvil? Why is everyone comparing it to AC4?

 

[Bucket-o-roadkill]

This is absolutely ridiculous. It sounds harsh but it stinks of lazy development/porting. Man, this game.

 

[TC McQueen]

Isn't Watch Dogs running on completely new engine built from scratch with only few elements taken from Anvil? Why is everyone comparing it to AC4?

Probably because it was the last major release of a Ubisoft multi-platform title on PC and it didn't perform well. It's pretty much the only thing we can compare Watch_Dogs to fairly.

 

[CadetMahoney]

So I guess the "i5 is good enough for gaming" mantra will finally end. Good run.

 

[UnrealEck]

So if it needs that amount of power, I expect it to have a leap in graphical quality over the videos and screenshots shown of the console versions.

 

[StevieP]

That ends that.

Console version it is then.

Consoles only have 6, so you're screwed

 

[maneil99]

Then use your PS4 controller on the PC and limit the frame rate to 30fps. There's no way the PS4 version is going to be better than it is on your rig.

I know my PC will look better but I don't want to play on my monitor or fiddle with gpu settings. Don't tell me what to buy

 

[StevieP]

I know my PC will look better but I don't want to play on my monitor or fiddle with gpu settings. Don't tell me what to buy

Hdmi cables are universal

 

[maneil99]

There are other settings besides resolution and FPS. Just because you have half the cores as an FX-8350 doesn't mean you are going to get half the performance. First time playing on PC?



The difference in FPS between 4670 and 4770 is literally fuck-all so I am not sure what you mean.

No, I hate ubisoft ports on PC... First time playing on Pc? No. No need for condescending statements because I am going with the PS4 over the PC.

 

[maneil99]

Hdmi cables are universal

True, but it will be a pain in the ass to walk back to the PC becaue of Uplay. And if the game has no autoaim im fucked.

 

[TC McQueen]

True, but it will be a pain in the ass to walk back to the PC becaue of Uplay. And if the game has no autoaim im fucked.

You could always play with a controller on the PC. I'm pretty sure they at least have that running right.

 

[UrbanRats]

It's weird to see people with amazing PCs going "well, i'm going PS4 then", just because they take the title too literally.

Of course, if you're getting it on ps4 for other reasons than performance, then it's another story.

 

[maneil99]

You could always play with a controller on the PC. I'm pretty sure they at least have that running right.

Issue is a need a mouse for uplay. MY PC is also far from my TV so I need to move it since I cannot use the PS4/360 controller wireless