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[Axass]

New stage spotted? Does anyone recognize this as a previously revealed stage?

It looks very F-Zero-esque to me.

Isn't that one of the Pilotwings planes?

Edit: of course not, that's a 3DS pic...

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

I've been out of the loop. What Mario Kart leak?

Some guy who is supposedly rather reliable in regards to Mario Kart leaks recently "leaked" some minor details about Mario Kart 8, as well as a Smash Bros. tidbit that the game contains 48 playable characters, with four characters of Brawl's characters being cut.

Is he reliable, I don't know, I don't follow Mario Kart leaks.

 

[Kriken]

The 1080x960 resolution is real

j/k

The greenest poster around, doesn't even wait a full page to recycle jokes

 

[Babymario26]

New stage spotted? Does anyone recognize this as a previously revealed stage?

It looks very F-Zero-esque to me.

It kinda looks like MK7 Rainbow Road.. Kinda.

 

[IntelliHeath]

It's a tricky situation pretty much unique to smash brothers, particularly this game.

So... Daily pic thread, 3DS thread, and then Wii U thread. Daily pic thread (this one?) continues until it stops on smashbros.com?

Daily Image Thread will stay alive until the site stopped offering the images. 3DS OT will happens a week before the release date, and same thing for Wii U. Both get separate OTs due to different matchmaking.

I hope that I'm clear enough right?

this is what I hate about the smash bros community they blindly worship the almighty lord sakurai who can do not wrong and if anyone dares go against in they are ripped to shred and labeled melodrama whiners. I have the same right to voice my complaints on the likely roster as you do to praise it so I think I will.

the roster clearly is japan centric and hitting a lot of japan request when the west get little mac which was not even the most requested. I have no reasion to doubt that characters like shulk, pal(+ personal bias), chrom, and chros men( has to be japan since hardly anyone knows them here and sales of there game is big down there.) and the rest is character very few even asked for before there announcement. Fan's are the one's that have to be persuaded to buy the game so yes the best fan request need to be hit before the out there characters. It's almost like they realize will buy it anyway and don't care what we want. Being unique and interesting is cool and all but that's not why I play the game, I play it to fight with characters that are characters I connect with which is the reasion most play the game in the first place.

I normally agree with you on the leak thing but there really no disputing this one it is 100 % accurate so far with one of the characters being wii fit trainer. I geuss you can argue that the leaker could have seen the e3 trailer and the direct trailer in advance and added characters but chances of that is slim since if he did see the trailer he would know the pokemon was grenninja and not a x &Y pokemon iin general. It also fits the mk8 48 total roster with 4 cuts perfectly if you add the likely mewtwo which would not been on his list because he a vet. Do you think that's a coincidence? I hope I am wrong I really do but really the odds of being the final roster is more then it not being it

So you are saying that we blindly worshipped Sakurai but that's funny thing when you are blindly following the leaks without questioning the leaks. You acted like 48 characters (12 newcomers + Mewtwo) as if it were final roster, which it's not. I think you are being immature about it right now and taking your anger on smash community because we are pleased with the newcomers so far, and you aren't. We know that you really want King Kool and Ridley; so some of us does too. If you notice that we are not complaining or overreacting, do you ever wonder why? Maybe the game isn't out yet so that meant they are still working on the game. As I explained about the cuts, the cuts and final numbers of the roster don't happens UNTIL end of the development. That's why final roster smash leaks always happens like two weeks to a month before release date.

The reasons why we are not upset about the roster because we don't know the full roster yet and we wouldn't complain until the game get in our hands or when someone posted the picture of full roster. Unlike you, we are waiting patiently for the reveals and make sure that we know the full roster before we reacted. You chose to not wait for full roster and started to complaining about Wii U being delayed to Nov, and 48 "imaginary" roster is being finalized. We would okay with you complaining IF IT WAS AFTER THE GAME RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC.

It's almost like they realize will buy it anyway and don't care what we want. Being unique and interesting is cool and all but that's not why I play the game, I play it to fight with characters that are characters I connect with which is the reasion most play the game in the first place.

You just admitted that you complained for your selfish purpose. Since you don't get Ridley or King Rool reveal so you started to moping around and complaining because you don't get what you want even before the game release. Is it too much that I simply request you to wait until the game got out and see who actually got in the game. See if Leak is real or not?

There are many people that don't get their characters that they want to see yet, but they didn't complaining because they rather to wait patiently for their reveals or not.

I will welcome your complaining when the game got released, but now now because it's silly to waste your energies complaining and whining about something that could happens or not.

P.S. Don't call us blind fanboys of Sakurai because we are not. we are more reasonable with our patience and wait it out until we get our games in our hand so we can see for ourselves rather than believe in the rumor fully.

Edited: Well, it's okay that people can express their concerns on current roster or complaining about current roster but please don't act like those rumors information is finalized because we don't know if it's real or not.

I like the characters that have been confirmed so far and that are rumored to appear. But what characters would you like to see?

He's upset that he don't get Ridley and King Rool yet.

 

[Berordn]

New stage spotted? Does anyone recognize this as a previously revealed stage?

It looks very F-Zero-esque to me.

It looks a lot like the interior of the tube in Rainbow Road.

I'm fairly certain it is, actually.

 

[Poltergust]

Some guy who is supposedly rather reliable in regards to Mario Kart leaks recently "leaked" some minor details about Mario Kart 8, as well as a Smash Bros. tidbit that the game contains 48 playable characters, with four characters of Brawl's characters being cut.

Is he reliable, I don't know, I don't follow Mario Kart leaks.

Assuming that it's true, Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Snake are most likely the ones that are cut.

As for who I think the 4th one is, I have no idea. I think Ike, Lucas, and Wolf are all equally likely. If I had to choose, I'd say Ike will be replaced by Chrom.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Some guy who is supposedly rather reliable in regards to Mario Kart leaks recently "leaked" some minor details about Mario Kart 8, as well as a Smash Bros. tidbit that the game contains 48 playable characters, with four characters of Brawl's characters being cut.

Is he reliable, I don't know, I don't follow Mario Kart leaks.

It was posted a while ago too. The only reason people are paying attention to it now is because it's basically Sal's characters plus Mewtwo, and the solo Charizard means 4 cuts is easier to obtain.

 

[ffdgh]

New stage spotted? Does anyone recognize this as a previously revealed stage?

It looks very F-Zero-esque to me.

It's called a road it's called a rainbow road♪

 

[Loco4Coco]

New stage spotted? Does anyone recognize this as a previously revealed stage?

It looks very F-Zero-esque to me.

That's the Big Blue stage from Melee.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Assuming that it's true, Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Snake are most likely the ones that are cut.

As for who I think the 4th one is, I have no idea. I think Ike, Lucas, and Wolf are all equally likely. If I had to choose, I'd say Ike will be replaced by Chrom.

This is exactly what I think, although that's easy to gleam.

 

[Qurupeke]

Assuming that it's true, Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Snake are most likely the ones that are cut.

As for who I think the 4th one is, I have no idea. I think Ike, Lucas, and Wolf are all equally likely. If I had to choose, I'd say Ike will be replaced by Chrom.

Yep, that's my prediction too. Him or Jigglypuff. The latter is mostly a wish though, as it's not happening.

 

[ErrorMacro]

There's been a user called RosalinaX on mariokartwii.com who said that the roster would be 48 characters big, with 4 cuts. That's it.

Some guy who is supposedly rather reliable in regards to Mario Kart leaks recently "leaked" some minor details about Mario Kart 8, as well as a Smash Bros. tidbit that the game contains 48 playable characters, with four characters of Brawl's characters being cut.

Is he reliable, I don't know, I don't follow Mario Kart leaks.

Thanks! Well, 48 seems reasonable, 4 cuts also. Personally, I hope it is not true, because if it's really 48 and both Gematsu leaks are true, I can see a Brawl situation where we pretty much know every interesting newcomer before the game launches.

I am still hoping for some big surprises (like Ridley)

 

[Kriken]

Assuming that it's true, Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Snake are most likely the ones that are cut.

As for who I think the 4th one is, I have no idea. I think Ike, Lucas, and Wolf are all equally likely. If I had to choose, I'd say Ike will be replaced by Chrom.

*Sigh* If the 4 cuts ends up being true, I honestly see that being the case. Although I feel like Wolf could be cut and Fire Emblem gets 3 representatives this time since Fire Emblem Awakening did better than Star Fox. But that's wishful thinking on my part

 

[Red Arremer]

That's the Big Blue stage from Melee.

No. No it's not.

 

[georly]

New stage spotted? Does anyone recognize this as a previously revealed stage?

It looks very F-Zero-esque to me.

That does look like an f-zero track.

I'll try to see if it matches existing ones or if it's just from rainbow road or smash run.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Thanks! Well, 48 seems reasonable, 4 cuts also. Personally, I hope it is not true, because if it's really 48 and both Gematsu leaks are true, I can see a Brawl situation where we pretty much know every interesting newcomer before the game launches.

I am still hoping for some big surprises (like Ridley)

There would be one character left to surprise us with, although if both rumors prove true, I'd be satisfied with the roster nonetheless.

The real problem is how they're gonna keep the hype train going until the Wii U version's release.

 

[PadWarrior]

Daily Image Thread will stay alive until the site stopped offering the images. 3DS OT will happens a week before the release date, and same thing for Wii U. Both get separate OTs due to different matchmaking.

I hope that I'm clear enough right?



So you are saying that we blindly worshipped Sakurai but that's funny thing when you are blindly following the leaks without questioning the leaks. You acted like 48 characters (12 newcomers + Mewtwo) as if it were final roster, which it's not. I think you are being immature about it right now and taking your anger on smash community because we are pleased with the newcomers so far, and you aren't. We know that you really want King Kool and Ridley; so some of us does too. If you notice that we are not complaining or overreacting, do you ever wonder why? Maybe the game isn't out yet so that meant they are still working on the game. As I explained about the cuts, the cuts and final numbers of the roster don't happens UNTIL end of the development. That's why final roster smash leaks always happens like two weeks to a month before release date.

The reasons why we are not upset about the roster because we don't know the full roster yet and we wouldn't complain until the game get in our hands or when someone posted the picture of full roster. Unlike you, we are waiting patiently for the reveals and make sure that we know the full roster before we reacted. You chose to not wait for full roster and started to complaining about Wii U being delayed to Nov, and 48 "imaginary" roster is being finalized. We would okay with you complaining IF IT WAS AFTER THE GAME RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC.



You just admitted that you complained for your selfish purpose. Since you don't get Ridley or King Rool reveal so you started to moping around and complaining because you don't get what you want even before the game release. Is it too much that I simply request you to wait until the game got out and see who actually got in the game. See if Leak is real or not?

There are many people that don't get their characters that they want to see yet, but they didn't complaining because they rather to wait patiently for their reveals or not.

I will welcome your complaining when the game got released, but now now because it's silly to waste your energies complaining and whining about something that could happens or not.

P.S. Don't call us blind fanboys of Sakurai because we are not. we are more reasonable with our patience and wait it out until we get our games in our hand so we can see for ourselves rather than believe in the rumor fully.



He's upset that he don't get Ridley and King Rool yet.

Excellent spot on post Heath.

 

[Berordn]

That does look like an f-zero track.

I'll try to see if it matches existing ones or if it's just from rainbow road or smash run.

It's Rainbow Road, you can see the textured stars in the background.

 

[Loco4Coco]

No. No it's not.

lol

 

[Red Arremer]

Assuming that it's true, Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Snake are most likely the ones that are cut.

As for who I think the 4th one is, I have no idea. I think Ike, Lucas, and Wolf are all equally likely. If I had to choose, I'd say Ike will be replaced by Chrom.

I think Falco is more likely to get cut than Wolf because Wolf has been one of the characters Sakurai had wanted to put into Smash forever. It was only Falco in Melee because he didn't want to give Wolf a moveset so similar to Fox's, as it would make the visual distinction difficult.

lol

Big Blue looks like this:

That does look like an f-zero track.

I'll try to see if it matches existing ones or if it's just from rainbow road or smash run.

I can tell you from the top of my head that there is not a single F-Zero track in any of the games that looks like this. This is not a color scheme F-Zero would've used.

 

[ArchedThunder]

My roster. Rhythm Girl holding Choir Boy's spot.

 

[georly]

Doesn't look like rainbow road, the gradient isn't quite right.

Even the oddball parts of rainbow road don't seem to match.

Don't see anything in smash run that looks like it could belong. The yellowish platforms that I can see are all indoors and not curved.

Not Big blue, no parts of that track are yellow, that I could see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_0apEvZjw

More investigation is needed.

Reminds me of pilotwings, though. That's not on 3ds, however. Not yet, at least.

 

[Babymario26]

I think Falco is more likely to get cut than Wolf because Wolf has been one of the characters Sakurai had wanted to put into Smash forever. It was only Falco in Melee because he didn't want to give Wolf a moveset so similar to Fox's, as it would make the visual distinction difficult.



Big Blue looks like this:

I can tell you from the top of my head that there is not a single F-Zero track in any of the games that looks like this. This is not a color scheme F-Zero would've used.

eh i personal think Rob would get the boot... but people said the same thing about toonlink and he was comfirmed about a month later (was it a month?)

 

[Red Arremer]

Even the oddball parts of rainbow road don't seem to match.

The yellow line with the red borders in the "mystery" shot is the finish line in the tube. It's green in that shot, I assume it changes colors (you can see how its gradient goes from cyan-ish green to yellow-ish green from right to left.
The red stripes on the sides also are split in half on both shots. It's pretty certainly Rainbow Road.

eh i personal think Rob would get the boot... but people said the same thing about toonlink and he was comfirmed about a month later (was it a month?)

ROB is not gonna go anywhere. He's a unique character that celebrates Nintendo's history. I know a lot of

Spoiler

incredibly stupid

people hate him and want him to be cut, but he's not gonna be cut.
As for Toon Link, I never thought he would get cut, since he represents the entire "younger Link" sub-series of Zelda.

 

[Loco4Coco]

Now that I look closer it's obviously Rainbow Cruise.

 

[Kriken]

Even the oddball parts of rainbow road don't seem to match.

It looks like it'd match the part of the track the Shy Guys are on except the boost colors don't match and the background resembles more of a sky with no stars to be seen

 

[Subtervotion]

My roster. Rhythm Girl holding Choir Boy's spot.

Everytime someone has Ike in their roster I breathe a sigh of relief. I know it doesn't mean anything, but its nice to see people betting he isn't cut.

 

[Berordn]

Doesn't look like rainbow road, the gradient isn't quite right.

Even the oddball parts of rainbow road don't seem to match.

let's nip this in the bud

I didn't mark the checkerboard texture on the area the fighters are standing on, but you can see that shared too.

 

[georly]

The yellow line with the red borders in the "mystery" shot is the finish line in the tube. It's green in that shot, I assume it changes colors (you can see how its gradient goes from cyan-ish green to yellow-ish green from right to left.
The red stripes on the sides also are split in half on both shots. It's pretty certainly Rainbow Road.

It looks like it'd match the part of the track the Shy Guys are on except the boost colors don't match and the background resembles more of a sky with no stars to be seen

The pattern doesn't match, also. It could just be another part of the course, or the 'end' of the tunnel or some such. I dunno. Checking direct footage next, i guess.

 

[Cody_D165]

My roster. Rhythm Girl holding Choir Boy's spot.

replace Ridley with Lucas and this would also be my roster

Spoiler

not because I dislike Ridley or anything I just don't think he'll make it again

 

[ArchedThunder]

Everytime someone has Ike in their roster I breathe a sigh of relief. I know it doesn't mean anything, but its nice to see people betting he isn't cut.

He might not be very popular in the Fire Emblem community, but he was a fan favorite in Brawl.

 

[Subtervotion]

He might not be very popular in the Fire Emblem community, but he was a fan favorite in Brawl.

I'm still hoping for Chrom too AND hoping for Lucina alt skin on Marth or Chrom. Probably hoping for too much.

 

[Red Arremer]

The pattern doesn't match, also. It could just be another part of the course, or the 'end' of the tunnel or some such. I dunno. Checking direct footage next, i guess.

The pattern matches, it's just a weird perspective.

 

[Kriken]

He might not be very popular in the Fire Emblem community, but he was a fan favorite in Brawl.

I REALLY need to get to Radiant Dawn sometime soon, on the list after Xenoblade and Bayonetta. Sometimes Nintendo being awful with their release schedule can be a blessing in disguise

Everytime someone has Ike in their roster I breathe a sigh of relief. I know it doesn't mean anything, but its nice to see people betting he isn't cut.

...I like the cut of your jib

 

[georly]

From the direct.

Yeah, the pattern does match, it's just the way sheik is positioned maked them look like lines and not squares.

 

[oreomunsta]

It looks a lot like the interior of the tube in Rainbow Road.

I'm fairly certain it is, actually.

Think you hit the nail on the head there =) I'd have to play MK7 again to make sure, but I believe those speed boost rings changed color

 

[Red Arremer]

From the direct.

Yeah, the pattern does match, it's just the way sheik is positioned maked them look like lines and not squares.

There you go, mystery solved.

 

[Kriken]

From the direct.

Yeah, the pattern does match, it's just the way sheik is positioned maked them look like lines and not squares.

Took another look, Charizard blocked the view a bit, but yeah, I see the circles better now, case closed

 

[Loco4Coco]

So it's not Rainbow Cruise?

 

[IntelliHeath]

So it's not Rainbow Cruise?

Nope, it's not.

 

[Berordn]

So it's not Rainbow Cruise?

It's definitely an F-Zero stage.

 

[ffdgh]

Think you hit the nail on the head there =) I'd have to play MK7 again to make sure, but I believe those speed boost rings changed color

Nope. infact, the boost pads are missing and that checkered ground is smash exclusive lol.

 

[Ryce]

Assuming that it's true, Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Snake are most likely the ones that are cut.

As for who I think the 4th one is, I have no idea. I think Ike, Lucas, and Wolf are all equally likely. If I had to choose, I'd say Ike will be replaced by Chrom.

I really don’t think Ike is going to be cut seeing as how he now represents Radiant Dawn (he was based on Path of Radiance in Brawl). He’s still relevant in the sense that he can be considered a Wii character.

In the (hopefully unlikely) event that there is a fourth cut, I don’t see how it could be anyone but Lucas.

• He’s the only Brawl character who didn’t leave Japan
• Ike, Falco, and Wolf (the other potential cuts) have all appeared in a Wii/3DS game
• For whatever reason, Japanese Mother fans have grown to dislike/feel indifferent towards Mother 3 (for example, look here)
• Mother is the smallest/lowest-selling series in Smash Bros. by a significant margin, so the argument could be made that it doesn’t really need a second character
• He’s not a Ness “clone,” but he’s not terribly unique either — some of his attacks could be given to Ness

 

[Tathanen]

The reasons why we are not upset about the roster because we don't know the full roster yet and we wouldn't complain until the game get in our hands or when someone posted the picture of full roster. Unlike you, we are waiting patiently for the reveals and make sure that we know the full roster before we reacted.

I'd like to suggest an alternative: unless your favorite character from past games was CUT, there's no reason to be "upset" about anything that happens to the roster, particularly regarding fantasy characters that you wish would be added. SSB has ZERO obligation to include anything any individual wants, especially when it comes to the roster. The sooner all expectations are completely and totally shut down, the better off everyone will be. Let's not wait to be upset, "upset" should not be a conceivable emotion unless someone you loved has been cut.

 

[rekameohs]

There's been a user called RosalinaX on mariokartwii.com who said that the roster would be 48 characters big, with 4 cuts. That's it.

Obviously a trustworthy source, of course.

 

[TWILT]

He might not be very popular in the Fire Emblem community, but he was a fan favorite in Brawl.

Ike is definitely popular in the FE fanbase. He's probably the most well known lord after Marth, and there's a ton of references to Ike in Awakening (hell, he's the only one besides Marth who has his own descendant).

I'm confident Ike will return.

 

[oreomunsta]

Nope. infact, the boost pads are missing and that checkered ground is smash exclusive lol.

Yeah the pads are gone, but I had it in my head that these was at least one ring that circumferenced the interior... Guess it's been a while since I've played it -.-

 

[theprodigy]

I'd like to suggest an alternative: unless your favorite character from past games was CUT, there's no reason to be "upset" about anything that happens to the roster, particularly regarding fantasy characters that you wish would be added. SSB has ZERO obligation to include anything any individual wants, especially when it comes to the roster. The sooner all expectations are completely and totally shut down, the better off everyone will be. Let's not wait to be upset, "upset" should not be a conceivable emotion unless someone you loved has been cut.

so Mewtwo fans have full license to riot?
do not want

 

[MaverickHunterAsh]

I'm sure someone already brought this up closer to the Direct, but does anyone think it's possible that not every character on Smash 4's final roster will initially be playable/unlockable in the 3DS version? Like, they might keep two or three characters held back until the Wii U version releases to help keep the Wii U version fresh, since it's otherwise (probably) the same game but in HD (and with a different set of stages, of course)?

I don't mean paid DLC, I just mean an update for the 3DS version that would be released day and date with the Wii U version and unlock two or three remaining characters.

Just a thought!

Also, I only skimmed the last few pages, but did someone actually try to seriously argue that Birdo is more important overall to the Mario franchise than Rosalina? That's just... huh?!