I feel the same way. I actually owned it before I owned a PSP... it's a really great entry in the series.
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Looks like all digital PSP / PSone games work on Vita now [Not Anymore]
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I feel the same way. I actually owned it before I owned a PSP... it's a really great entry in the series.
Hades Hotgun
Banned
Thats ridiculous. E3 surprise or not, this is a very small matter.
Far more games were silently made available all at once when the service was introduced on the Vita.
Its only a few games, so its absolutely not a gigantic issue and they certainly don't have to overcome it for every single game, only the handful that don't work right now.
They may never bring every (or any) game back, but it is factually incorrect to characterize the situation as you have.
Yes, but the DLC doesn't work, so you just get the 5 songs for 5 dollars
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
And, thus, I will continue to buy physical when at all possible.
Well, and you should have zero expectation of a physical game being backwards compatable as we move towards the elimination of physical media.
At this point, unless it gets blown out at E3, the odds of this leaving Japan are close to zero- it was a bomb over there, and if they want a cheap box for PS Now streaming, they probably would remove the Vita stuff from it to make it even cheaper
Rodney McKay
Member
I think your best bet would be to buy the PSP 3000 ($99 last I looked) and buy video out cables for it.
That way you get ALL the PSP games (including disc only games like FF: Crisis Core and Kingdom Hearts, and I think it supports more PS1 games than the Vita (admittedly without the second analog stick.
I'm honestly considering that myself, but not sure I'd spend the money myself. Maybe if I got it as a gift or something, haha.
Baron Von Beans
Member
Don't hold off, there's tons of greatness in that little machine just begging to be played by you. You can almost hear it now...
"Xander get me in your hand-ersssssss" xD
Green Wiggly
Member
While I'm glad that I was able to grab the games I wanted from my download list, how fucking sad is it that I'm excited to be able to access content that I already paid for?
Yeah, not dropping the $200 to play some extra PSone and PSP games seems a bit extreme. The Vita is already well, well worth the price of admission, in my opinion, and you'll find a ton of games to play and features to get into.
Heck, if you already own or might one day own a PS4 it's kind of a must, for me.
I want your avatar. Do you have a link to your tweet, by the way? I might jump on that.
You missed my point entirely (and I pretty much said my point in the post). I'm saying most people who learned you could do this learned it through these sites. In fact, I didn't see that it advertised those games as PS VIta, that's why I held off. So I don't even know how some one who didn't inhabit these sites would even know they could do that. (Bolded in case you miss my point again).
My point being, that the people who found out about this found out through these sites and therefore are likely to realize they may need to wait for confirmation. Sony didn't announce this, you definitely couldn't buy it through the Vita store (I kept looking because that's what I was waiting for for confirmation), and far as I could tell, it didn't say Vita on the non Vita store either.
Added my two cents.
CertifiedFP
Member
Valkyria Chronicles 2 can be PS3 transferred still.
Rodney McKay
Member
Fair enough, but some of that information was out on the online store, so that's where I can imagine (a few) people stubbing on one of these games being listed for Vita.
Just be aware that not everyone has the same instincts as you when it comes to waiting and verifying stuff like this.
In many cases, people (especially people on NeoGAF) are actually trained to NOT wait in situations like this. There are a lot of glitches during Steam sales in the past or on Origin that resulted in people getting games are huge discounts or even free (I got Spore, BF: Bad Company, and something else on Origin completely a year or two ago). There was even a Walmart glitch a few months ago where people were able to get stuff at insane discounts and pick it up in stores. (still mad I missed out on that one!)
Thankfully I didn't buy any games BECAUSE of this glitch, but I did buy the Spyro games during the sale to play on my PS3 and when I found out about this glitch I was able to at least download Spyro 1 on my Vita before the glitch was corrected, so I actually benefited from not waiting. For people who did buy games specifically because of this glitch, it does suck, and I hope Sony will honor refunds if they ask for them.
for the new page... anyone who cares
well let's ask Sony to look into this?
I mean #PS4noDRM did help them at the negotiating table right?
so let's try
#VITAnoLicenseLock
#EndLicenseLock
#FreeOurGamesOnVita
@yosp
@amboyes
@giocorsi
@shahidkamal
the point is not to blame Sony. as many have already said, they don't and can't control the entire license agreement. but with all the downloads from this glitch + if we make ourselves heard, I think Sony does have a good case to negotiate with the publishers to rethink about this
"hey look, gamers want this, people are willing to spend money to buy older games, shall we work things out?"
well let's ask Sony to look into this?
I mean #PS4noDRM did help them at the negotiating table right?
so let's try
#VITAnoLicenseLock
#EndLicenseLock
#FreeOurGamesOnVita
@yosp
@amboyes
@giocorsi
@shahidkamal
the point is not to blame Sony. as many have already said, they don't and can't control the entire license agreement. but with all the downloads from this glitch + if we make ourselves heard, I think Sony does have a good case to negotiate with the publishers to rethink about this
"hey look, gamers want this, people are willing to spend money to buy older games, shall we work things out?"
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
I don't have that expectation. Unless things change drastically as this transition happens, I'll probably be dropping console gaming altogether (or I will move to import only, for as long as that market remains physical).
Of course, there's still PC gaming, which I'm all digital on, but have felt comfortable doing so because backwards compatibility is less of an issue and Valve has proven to be more consumer-centric than Sony, MS or Nintendo.
Thanks. There's a few games there that I would have liked to get, oh well :/
eighty(one)
Member
Sony feigned to listen to players about no DRM - well, this is real DRM and it doesn't need to be. I know the Vita audience isn't as large as that of the PS4 - but WE can change it.
Not because the Vita needs saving, rather, these games need to be played and there is an audience willing to pay for them.
Not because the Vita needs saving, rather, these games need to be played and there is an audience willing to pay for them.
Christoff Yurievich
Member
The fuck? I have RBU on my vita and have gone into the in-game music store and bought several songs. They download and I play them. Boo-yah.
ConradCervantes
Banned
At least I got my beautiful baby Motorstorm before the cruel gatekeepers snatched them away from us. I thought about re-downloading Portable Ops, but I wasn't in the mood.
DJMAX Fever doesn't work either. I haven't tried transferring it from a PS3 in a while, but it's definitely not downloadable from a Vita like the list says.
Unless sony has a way to remote delete them or has a Vita Firmware update that blacklists them
That would also set a precedent for handling digital games in this nature. Doing so would cause an uproar.
vagabondarts
Member
That motorstorm game is fun.
I would love to see a Vita Motorstorm (don't care for MS RC).
and that would destroy all the goodwill that build up with the PS4... :/
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Guess that means I'll be holding off updating my firmware every time they release one to make sure my Phantasy Star is safe. Damnit Sony.
Well I got my Rock Band Unplugged Lite and Burnout Revenge bought and downloaded to Vita.
Got my Crash 1-3 and Spyro 1-3
And a couple PSP demos like PSP1 and PSP2, Rock Band Unplugged and Promethus (hilariously broken game)
Only regrets is not buying Crash Kart
and while not a regret just funny, Mod Nation Racers PSP... such a bad game that I don't even regret not putting it on my Vita
Got my Crash 1-3 and Spyro 1-3
And a couple PSP demos like PSP1 and PSP2, Rock Band Unplugged and Promethus (hilariously broken game)
Only regrets is not buying Crash Kart
and while not a regret just funny, Mod Nation Racers PSP... such a bad game that I don't even regret not putting it on my Vita
Baron Von Beans
Member
Joined in on the Twitter train. The more we have asking for some explanation, the better the chances!
Thankfully, Twisted Metal Head On and the Crash series will forever be on my Vita.
Thankfully, Twisted Metal Head On and the Crash series will forever be on my Vita.
we need more people on this train
maybe someone want to post on Reddit?
I posted on the PSN Blog
eighty(one)
Member
Even though I got Crash 2, GT, Motorstorm arctic Edge and Star Wars: The Force Unleashed onto my Vita - it shouldn't have to be like this.
There is a veritable treasure trove of classic games and undiscovered gems, ripe for an audience that would legally pay for them.
Just because we got SOME of the games we wanted and many missed out - we know that they work and are fully functioning. This is real DRM (digital rights management). As a PS4 owner, Sony agreed with the no DRM and 'listened' to the gamers.
The Vita audience is considerably smaller, but no less worthy of being listened to. We shouldn't be neglected and our voices and dollars should be spoken for.
Let Sony know, through Facebook, Twitter and the PSBlog that we encourage them to restore compatibility, officially.
#PSV1T4ever
Pancakes R Us
Member
Is it possible to use and dual shock controller with the PSP 3000 when you have it connected to the TV? I'm considering getting my Crash Bandicoot fix this way.
I'm mad about this dumb move, but I got lucky and all my downloads actually finished before they removed it. Got all the PSP and PS1 games in my download list - about 20 or so games in all. My memory card never get corrupted or something.
What would I do if I upgraded to the 64gb card? How can I move everything over?
What would I do if I upgraded to the 64gb card? How can I move everything over?
It's very hard to get back to PSP screen after Vita. I tried.
BertleTheTurtle
Member
And you can still buy and download the DLC songs for Rockband Unplugged Lite?
Also I think the people going "just buy a PSP" have never actually played a game on Vita. Once you go OLED you don't go back. Once you go LCD you might be able to however.
Did it list it as such? Or was it just available? Big difference.
Christoff Yurievich
Member
ConradCervantes
Banned
It's a blast. I also didn't like RC. Couldn't get into the controls at all.
The PSP game Sega Genesis Collection said "PSP" when I looked at it on the online SEN store.
In that case though, that is them willingly taking that risk to take advantage of what might be a glitch and honestly, not something you can blame Sony for. I decided to play it cautious this time. I've grabbed apps that I knew were glitches (I have an app that I have never used on my iphone that lets me use it as a hotspot for my computer
thanks to reading Macrumors, but it was cheap/free so it wasn't a huge loss. And Apple hasn't been known to retroactively remove an app once you have it so I didn't worry so much about that. I don't know about Sony and I know that Amazon has at least removed an ebook retroactively so I acted more cautiously cause I didn't know if Sony would retroactively remove my ability to play the game if I bought it and it was a glitch).My point is that there is no reason to be so upset you are going to boycott Sony, Sony didn't lie to anyone about this and I think the rare occasion where I would understand some one being upset at Sony is going to be really rare (cause I don't see where Sony advertised it so it seems people who found out found out by this forum or other game related forums). I do think Sony should allow these games to be bought on Vita and I don't understand the companies that won't release licensing (including Sony by that argument cause Gran Turismo is one of those games).
I am disappointed this wasn't an official thing, I thought it was a good move if it was (even though I admit I was upset they did it right after a sale I would have taken advantage of if I had known the games were going to work on Vita). Hell, I even said I'd rather miss the sale and have this be an official/true thing and get the games. So now I get what I would rather not, not miss anything on the sale and not have the games available on Vita.
In the end, the one thing I'm upset about is why aren't these games being allowed on Vita in the first place anyways? Not that I think Sony tricked me or was tricky about it.