Why? TF bundle is cheaper than the others...
FIFA and Forza bundle are ~£430... TF Bundle ~£370... and Forza and FIFA bundle are hard to find.
As in, you implied people buying Xbox1 are simply people buying Xboxes and getting TF free, indicating TF/price hasn't improved weekly levels. I ment, that, if people were simply buying Xbox One at previous levels, then both Fifa and Forza shoulve charted higher during that time.
Well I don't know if you noticed, but under 40/chart position, XBO Titanfall alone beats out all the PS4 games, which definitely feels off.
However, despite this I feel that overall something like that is more accurate
As in, you implied people buying Xbox1 are simply people buying Xboxes and getting TF free, indicating TF/price hasn't improved weekly levels. I ment, that, if people were simply buying Xbox One at previous levels, then both Fifa and Forza shoulve charted higher during that time.
You feel something that is a bundle should beat all based on it being a pack-in? It's cheaper to by the pack-in right now than the console buy itself. Sounds legit.
*confused*
Old sales-gaf sounds like best sales-gaf
Well, we used to have a bit more data, but also charts from a lot more countries:
UK hasn't changed, but chart track also had the top 20 for Ireland and Denmark.
Then we had:
- weekly top 20 for France
- weekly top 10 for the Netherlands, Spain and Italy
- weekly top 20 (consoles) and top 10 (handhelds) for Norway
- weekly top 20 for Sweden
- bi-weekly top 10 for Finland
And finally, ELSPA sales awards monthly in the UK, so we'd know when a title crossed the 100k, 200k, 300k, 600k and 1M thresholds. It wasn't uncommon for chart track to give actual figures in their summary.
These were the days man. Although ironically, the PAL charts threads used to be much quieter too.
Yes, sorry for the error. It has been fixed. Thanks!Ah you fixed it, was going to point that out. thanks JVM.
Correct. Someone with the time needs to dig out Aquamarine's last post in the NPD March 2014 thread and compare the percentages for platforms.Yeah I realised it was using last month's change numbers.
So... next gen sales are not quite making up for the YOY drop in current gen sales, right?
I see nothing wrong. I round the figures, so the actual rounded percentage is 23%.You need to fix your Vita percent change on units.
Cheers.
I don't see it. If you want to remodel sales numbers (as your pie chart with the "market share" title suggests), this'll be very very unfair to lower-ranked games. E.g. you'll score position 35 6 times as well as position 40 (6 points vs 1), while whenever we get longer charts with absolute numbers attached, those positions end up really close, within less than 10% of each other.So for any interested posters, I humbly present Total Placement Points. Very simply really, the software SKU in position 1 receives 40 points, position two 39, position 3 38, and so on down until position 40 that receives 1 point.
Thanks! XBO much closer to PS4 than I expected. I wonder how much of those are bundles (for both).
PC with a big collapse. Was anything huge released last year?
Year over year units:
Sony: +13%
Microsoft: -5%
Nintendo: -30%
PC: - 49%
2014 Marketshare
Microsoft: 42%
Sony: 37%
Nintendo: 15%
PC: 7%
(Does PC count as Microsoft? =P)
Yes, you are right. Sorry it took me a while -- I had just finished making supper, and we all sat down to eat for a bit.Not revenue.
I'm seeing -57%, when it's down to 101k from 115k.
Cheers.
I don't see it. If you want to remodel sales numbers (as your pie chart with the "market share" title suggests), this'll be very very unfair to lower-ranked games. E.g. you'll score position 35 6 times as well as position 40 (6 points vs 1), while whenever we get longer charts with absolute numbers attached, those positions end up really close, within less than 10% of each other.
I don't know where I'd get long-running data to build a good real-world sample for this kind of thing, but I suspect the statistical trend will go towards exponential decay (a / (a + b ** N)), or possibly hyperbolic decay ((a + 1) / (a + N ** b)).
(a and b would be tweaking constants > 0 and are TBD, while N is the placement, counting from one)
PC sales are mostly digital now. Diablo 3 expansion didn't really chart anywhere at retail yet sold 2.7 million copies worldwide the first week. It is the best selling game of March worldwide by a big margin. Just goes to show where PC gaming has moved.Thanks! XBO much closer to PS4 than I expected. I wonder how much of those are bundles (for both).
PC with a big collapse. Was anything huge released last year?
Year over year units:
Sony: +13%
Microsoft: -5%
Nintendo: -30%
PC: - 49%
2014 Marketshare
Microsoft: 42%
Sony: 37%
Nintendo: 15%
PC: 7%
(Does PC count as Microsoft? =P)
PC sales are mostly digital now. Diablo 3 expansion didn't really chart anywhere at retail yet sold 2.7 million copies worldwide the first week. .
Sim City.PC with a big collapse. Was anything huge released last year?
By Christmas, provided there are big games to offset any potential declines from BF/CoD/AC fatigue. At least, I hope.So we've essentially gotten past the point where the Wii and NDS declines are enough to drag the market down, while declines in the last gen HD consoles is being offset by the new systems. Hopefully this implies growth and expansion again going forward.
It debuted nearly everywhere on #1, in uk on #3 and it was still at #2 in germany last week.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=793739
Those retail debuts aren't enough to come close to hitting 2.7 million in total. Number 3 in UK is what, like 10K in sales at most? There really aren't any PC retail strongholds left, except perhaps Germany.
A quick update on this year compared to last year in the UK.
Retail software revenue
YTD 2013: £1.63 billion
YTD 2014: £1.76 billion (+2.9%)
Retail software units
YTD 2013: 68.6 million
YTD 2014: 64.7 million (-9.3%)
The difference of course is the change in ASP.
YTD ASP 2013: £24.40
YTD ASP 2014: £27.68
One last thing...April is looking good. So far, revenue is £32.0 million, with one week left to be reported. So, how high could April go?
Well, the weakest week this year so far was £9.2 million. So if we just estimate that, we get £41.2 million for April.
Compare that to last year's £37.7 million for April, and this year's April could be up 9% over last year. That's substantial.
Cheers.
Woah. I can definitely see XBO software sales outpacing PS4 software sales by the end of this year. Weird.
Woah. I can definitely see XBO software sales outpacing PS4 software sales by the end of this year. Weird.
Woah. I can definitely see XBO software sales outpacing PS4 software sales by the end of this year. Weird.
Woah. I can definitely see XBO software sales outpacing PS4 software sales by the end of this year. Weird.
Woah. I can definitely see XBO software sales outpacing PS4 software sales by the end of this year. Weird.
I believe it took the average ratio of the Top 30 in Famitsu over ~20 weeks, ran it through Excel to get a formula, and then used that formula to give weighted values to the Top 40 games in the U.K. Charts with endpoint constraints of #1 being worth 20 points and #40 being worth 1 point. Then the points were totaled by system to give an impression of marketshare in the Top 40. It couldn't ever be exactly right, but it was just designed to be more useful than a straight count of games in the Top 40, since placement in the Top 40 was very important to the worth (in terms of marketshare) for a game in the Top 40.
Since you asked, actually found the old spreadsheet. Looks like the last update was in September 2009. The points per position in the Top 40 used for that one is shown below.
Code:20.00 11.29 8.09 6.39 5.32 4.58 4.04 3.62 3.29 3.02 2.80 2.61 2.44 2.30 2.18 2.07 1.97 1.88 1.80 1.73 1.66 1.60 1.55 1.50 1.45 1.40 1.36 1.32 1.29 1.25 1.22 1.19 1.16 1.14 1.11 1.09 1.06 1.04 1.02 1.00
Germany:
Week 17, 2014 - Individual Formats (Units)
01 (NE) PC DARK SOULS II (BANDAI NAMCO GAMES)
02 (01) PS3 FIFA FUSSBALL-WELTMEISTERSCHAFT BRASILIEN 2014 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
03 (02) PC DIABLO III: REAPER OF SOULS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
04 (03) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
05 (05) PS4 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
06 (07) PC THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
07 (04) 3DS YOSHI'S NEW ISLAND (NINTENDO)
08 (06) PS4 INFAMOUS: SECOND SON (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
09 (09) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
10 (NE) PS4 TRIALS FUSION - DELUXE EDITION (UBISOFT)
11 (24) 3DS POKÉMON X (NINTENDO)
12 (15) PC DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
13 (29) 3DS POKÉMON Y (NINTENDO)
14 (13) PS3 GRAN TURISMO 6 (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
15 (14) 3DS ANIMAL CROSSING: NEW LEAF (NINTENDO)
16 (18) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
17 (30) PC THE ELDER SCROLLS V - SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
18 (10) 360 FIFA FUSSBALL-WELTMEISTERSCHAFT BRASILIEN 2014 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
19 (12) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
20 (22) 360 MINECRAFT - XBOX 360 EDITION (AK TRONIC)
21 (08) 3DS THE LEGO MOVIE VIDEOGAME (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
22 (23) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
23 (20) 3DS MARIO KART 7 (NINTENDO)
24 (16) PS3 THE LEGO MOVIE VIDEOGAME (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
25 (35) PS3 THE ELDER SCROLLS V - SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
26 (17) 360 TITANFALL (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
27 (38) PS4 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
28 (28) PS3 FINAL FANTASY X/X-2 HD REMASTER (SQUARE ENIX / KOCH MEDIA)
29 (42) PC LANDWIRTSCHAFTS-SIMULATOR 2013 (ASTRAGON)
30 (NE) XBO TRIALS FUSION - DELUXE EDITION (UBISOFT)
31 (19) PS3 LEGO DER HOBBIT (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
32 (43) PS3 DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
33 (31) 3DS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. 2 (NINTENDO)
34 (36) PS4 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
35 (56) PC ARMA III (MORPHICON / FLASHPOINT)
36 (71) 360 CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
37 (34) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
38 (32) 3DS LUIGI'S MANSION 2 (NINTENDO)
39 (33) 3DS MARIO PARTY: ISLAND TOUR (NINTENDO)
40 (44) PS3 SOUTH PARK: DER STAB DER WAHRHEIT (UBISOFT)
41 (54) PS4 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
42 (49) PC TITANFALL (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
43 (26) WIU DONKEY KONG COUNTRY: TROPICAL FREEZE (NINTENDO)
44 (46) PS3 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
45 (53) WIU SUPER MARIO 3D WORLD (NINTENDO)
46 (62) 3DS SUPER MARIO 3D LAND (NINTENDO)
47 (52) PS3 DARK SOULS II (BANDAI NAMCO GAMES)
48 (59) PC DIE SIMS 3: STARTER SET (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
49 (39) 3DS LEGO CITY UNDERCOVER: THE CHASE BEGINS (NINTENDO)
50 (58) PS3 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
Top 50
PS3 - 16
3DS - 11
PC - 9
PS4 - 6
360 - 5
WIU - 2
XBO - 1
PS3 - 16
3DS - 11
PC - 9
PS4 - 6
360 - 5
WIU - 2
XBO - 1
WIU - 2
XBO - 1
WIU - 2
XBO - 1
New sources for nordic charts? Nice.
Regarding the weighting of UK charts, here's donny's explanation and data:
Q1 2014
PS4 914K
XB1 835K
WiiU 175K
Woah. I can definitely see WiiU software sales outpacing PS4 software sales by the end of this year. Weird.
So, no UK chart yet?
France, week 17:
1 - FIFA 14 PS4 - Electronic Arts
2 - Coupe Du Monde De La FIFA : Brésil 2014 PS3 - Electronic Arts
3 - Yoshi's New Island 3DS - Nintendo
4 - Titanfall Xbox 360 - Electronic Arts
5 - GTA V PS3 - Take-Two Interactive