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Ubisoft: Watch_Dogs will run at 900p on PS4 and 792p on XB1, both at 30fps
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S0cc3rpunk
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ussjtrunks
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Anyone actually seen it running on a ps4 still debating pc vs ps4 screen teearing is a definate turnoff though
TheRealTalker
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thanks
boredandlazy
Member
There's a difference between 'couldn't run' and 'doesn't run'. Don't get me wrong though, I expect the Witcher to be sub-1080p, but that game currently looks so far ahead of Watch_Dogs that it's at least understandable.
Krisprolls
Banned
Second Son looks a lot better than Watch Dogs and it runs 1080p / 30fps+, so does AC4.
Watch Dogs look crap on PC too (see review above). What's your point ?
The switch to PC seems to be paying off.
The only thing that's bugging me is everything to do with the vehicles. The vehicle physics (handling and such) doesn't appeal to me. And honestly, i find the car models horrible. And there seems to be a severely limited number of cars.
I love how GTA V handled vehicles in every way. Models, physics, variety, customization...
Oh well. Still quite excited. Just a bit cautious now.
Off-topic: MAH FIRST GAF POST! *Celebrates* Love how active this place is.
The only thing that's bugging me is everything to do with the vehicles. The vehicle physics (handling and such) doesn't appeal to me. And honestly, i find the car models horrible. And there seems to be a severely limited number of cars.
I love how GTA V handled vehicles in every way. Models, physics, variety, customization...
Oh well. Still quite excited. Just a bit cautious now.
Off-topic: MAH FIRST GAF POST! *Celebrates* Love how active this place is.
Krisprolls
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No it doesn't according to the review above, PC version looks like crap too.
Krisprolls
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"Lest you think we ordered too much, when compared with a recent title of the console and open world, inFamous: Second Son, this hits it a look, games seem almost from different generations. And we also had the opportunity to play the PC version, and the truth, things do not improve too much, is quite similar to what we saw in PS4, only a little better."
Gamepur (see above)
The PC version of Watch Dogs looks last gen too compared to Second Son on PS4. There you go, hardware isn't everything.
valentine71
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So does this mean that PS3 version of it will run 360P with 10-15 unlocked FPS?
Watch dogs couldn't even run at 1080p 30fps on PS4..but you are expecting The Division and Witcher 3 to do it?
Maybe, if these games have not a similar shitty chaotic development on too many platforms. This is what killed Watch_Dogs.
InFamous Second Sond and Assassin's Creed IV proved that the PS4 could run gorgeous games at 1080p@30fps (or even more 30-45 fps for InFamous).
Ubisoft devs are right : resolution and framerate are just numbers...if the other technicals standards are great : rock-solid 30fps, great AA, no pop-in, great animations/polys/effets... I hope they saved that.
So when graphically demanding games like DIvision and Witcher 3 come out on PS4 next year and they aren't 1080p either..are you going to be saying the same thing? CDPR didn't get devkit in time..UBI with division as well?
I hope people don't seriously believe the medium range gpu/cpu in these consoles will easily render ^^ those types of games @1080p. and run them at a smooth 60fps set to high settings lol Gamers need to be less gullible and stop believing every E3 preview shown on ultra PC settings is going to somehow magically make its way on to a console.
I'm going to make an incredibly biased comment and go out on a limb and bet that UC4 is going to absolutely blow both those games out of the water, not even just that but the order looks equally as impressive if not better that those games depending on your preferences.
and please spare me the "but, but its a yucky cinematic driven corridor shooter" tripe
Except whatever that "crap" is will still look a lot better than the other "crap" on consoles, simply due to a much higher power envelope on any enthusiast grade PCs.
Edit: hilarious, high-end PC GIFs above to illustrate consoles.
I don't put much stock in "only a little better" when it comes to PC vs console comparisons. After all, the same thing was regularly said last gen when consoles were doing 720p and PC was 1080p and above.
Admiral Woofington
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And who are you? Ubisoft said that I must bow so low.
Still a fantastic game from our talented devs, that's all the truth you know.
The graphics of old, the graphics of now, this game still looks great. And rumors are baseless my friend, there is no downgrade.
And so they spoke. And so they spoke. The devs of Ubisoft. And now the rains weep o'er the warehouse. All over the unsold copies.
Still a fantastic game from our talented devs, that's all the truth you know.
The graphics of old, the graphics of now, this game still looks great. And rumors are baseless my friend, there is no downgrade.
And so they spoke. And so they spoke. The devs of Ubisoft. And now the rains weep o'er the warehouse. All over the unsold copies.
http://www.gamepur.com/news/14630-w...ly-ordinary-animations-last-gen-facial-e.html
Preorder canceled confirmed?
Well, that about does it. I was initially debating the preorder cancellation but this sealed it.
Krisprolls
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You can change resolution all you want, if the game has bad textures and bad lighting, it won't make it look good...
Complete bullshit. Try PCSX2 or Dolphin sometime.
mercenar1e
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open world games are a hell of a lot more taxing on the system.. if they were scaled down on the same level of UC4 and The Order than they would win by a mile.
That's what console gamers like to believe.
Krisprolls
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They don't make PS2 games look like Second Son. I agree they still improve graphics though.
chickdigger802
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Krisprolls
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My point is a shitty dev will make shitty looking games whatever the hardware is. And a great dev can do wonder on inferior hardware, especially if it's exclusive.
Case in point : Watch Dogs looking like crap on PC too.
Amen. All it took was one difficult-to-read Google-translated article from a Spanish website no one has ever heard of to confirm the very worst of my fears!
lightzGamin
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yeah but UC4 is not open world
Ummm, I don't think thats what he was trying to "illustrate", but good on you for jumping to conclusions.
Krisprolls
Banned
Thank you for admitting you're wrong. We can move on with the discussion now
Not at all. Watch dogs PC still looks last gen compared to Second Son PS4, hence my point.
Resolution can't change bad assets. Now we can move on.
Agreed when it comes to asset quality and reading some of the info posted the game will have issues when it comes to pop-in and animations which is weird all things considered (delay and all that) but whatever.
Resolution does matter though, just look at this thread.
Well shit. Just checked that article.
Ubisoft, i'm so mad. It was all lies! Lies and money milking! 9 pre order editions?! Wat r u doin son?!
I don't know why people are saying it'll get bad reviews though. It may get a comment on the downgrade, but how is that enough to get torn by reviews? I may be missing something?
You know that because you read a PS4 focused article that only mentioned the PC version in passing?
Bad assets still look better with higher resolution and good assets look worse with low.
Derp said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the game ends up being crap, but I think there is definitely wishful thinking that it will be bad now that we know the game is not 1080p on PS4.
Yes, that's my bad. But those gifs are used in the opposite context quite often.
Let's move aside how much rendering resolution and framerate can have an impact (seriously, play some emulated PS2 or Wii on an extremely high end PC, your tone will change).
Second Son is doing a lot less than most open world games, and is much smaller in scale. Thus, even as an example of an exclusive, it cannot be properly compared.
that games not gonna look like that.
Krisprolls
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Of course it does, just not as much as the thousands of GAF threads on the subjects would lead you to believe.
This thread like the others on the subject is more about bragging rights, fanboys and console / PC wars. That's why you see so many threads about resolution wars, more than anything else.
Mr Moose
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Do all open world games load the whole map when you start the game or something?
Krisprolls
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I disagree. If anything, Second Son is doing more in lighting effects (especially the powers and the reflections with water), at least a lot more than Watch Dogs. Go watch the Second Son screenshots thread, they're incredible. There's nothing similar, even on PC.
I've played through Infamous: SS, and am currently revisiting the "Nvidia Tech Trailer", and I honestly cannot see this generational gap between the two. If anything, Watch_Dogs appears to be more technically advanced. It certainly is more technically demanding than Infamous: SS. Hmm, interesting stuff indeed...
Krisprolls
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Why would you wish the game ends up being crap ? It will probably end up LOOKING not that hot because we already have videos which don't look that good and Ubi never made a game in a modern city but that's all. Graphics aren't everything.
The game may be fun and bring something new, that's what matters more than the number of pixels on screen...
Eh... But what makes people think the game itself will be crap? I mean, the hacking concept seems pretty original and cool, and if it plays well then that's a huge bonus. As for the story, could that be it's weak point? It was something like "they did something to my family so imma kill everyone" (slightly exaggerated). But the story doesn't seem any worse than that of GTA V. These games revolve around their open world aspect i thought.
You could definitely be right, which is why i'm cautious about this game. But i'm just interested in why people think it may flop. I have my reasons as well.
Insano Jaco
Neo Member
Bingo!
Watchdogs is not visually impressive, there is no compensation happening, and the "under the roof" theory is BS, because the game is coming out on PS3 as well, with all the features like interactive NPC etc.
If people say that the PS3 city will be less populated, ok, so how many NPC and cars would have to be removed to upgrade the missing 50% pixels of the PS4 version?
I would rather have some cars and NPC with boring stories missing but no blurry work-around and upscaled artifacts.
I'm not wishing it will be crap. You missed my point entirely.
I just don't think most people had high hopes for the gameplay to begin with. 99.9% of the talk of this game has been about graphics, and now that we know they're not going to turn out so hot (at least on console), a lot of people have lost interest and are looking for reasons to pass on it.
R10Neymarfan
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So because Watchdogs isn't in 1080p we have to assume that more graphically demanding open world games will also never run in 1080p? Go back and look at the resolution of games throughout the last generation, it is all over the place, and there are plenty of great looking games that run at higher resolutions than worse looking games of the same type.Watch dogs couldn't even run at 1080p 30fps on PS4..but you are expecting The Division and Witcher 3 to do it?
Oblivion 360 - 1024x600
Skyrim 360 - 1280x720
Halo 3 - 1152x640
Halo 4 - 1280x720
Watchdogs is still basically a launch game that wasn't built with the new hardware in mind. Engine optimizations can go a long way, as well as design approach and hardware familiarity. They made it pretty clear in the blog that the delay was not used to put much time into tech advancements, but mostly content advancements.
It won't be commonplace.
googleplex
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Watch dogs couldn't even run at 1080p 30fps on PS4..but you are expecting The Division and Witcher 3 to do it?
Basing the graphical capability of the PS4 on Watch Dogs performance was your first mistake. Lol
Brofist
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Aren't most of the games on PS4 now still cross-gen games? I would think sub 1080p would become more commonplace as the generation goes on.
What reason do you have for saying this so confidently?