SomedayTheFire
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Stating a character is gay simply because of a pink suit is homophobic and only reinforcing gay stereotypes. Good job op.
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Far Cry 4's art is racist and the antagonist is (potentially) gay
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thehypocrite
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This was my 1st impression.
Well shit, some one better tell the Phoenix Suns they can no longer call there arena The Purple Palace. People might get the wrong idea, or something.
Depends. Does he fulfil any of the other criteria from the OP's checklist on homosexuality?
megamerican
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To be honest the only problematic thing I see here is that OP leaped to the assumption that the villain is gay.
The worst part is he keeps defending his narrow minded beliefs of what a stereotype is (the color Purple) and a wrist that he keeps wanting to be limp when it's clearly not. Also being fashionable is a stereotype.
Really, the ironic thing, he's being allot worse towards the stereotype than the boxart could ever dream of being.
OldKingDoran
Banned
Nothing about the antagonist strikes me as gay.
nothing racist or gay about the box act at all. classic idiots trying to find issues with every single thing without thinking about common sense.
People like the op are is what is wrong with society. There is real racism out there and all this does is devalue the term racist, it gets thrown around far too easy without people thinking beforehand.
People like the op are is what is wrong with society. There is real racism out there and all this does is devalue the term racist, it gets thrown around far too easy without people thinking beforehand.
stufte
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Better?
Wait. Now is this offensive because he now looks middle-eastern? shit. I'm not sure how to fix this to make it non-offensive to everyone.
Oh wait. Here we go:
He looks pretty fucking dapper
Yep, I thought the same. That or he's scratching his chin. Either way...
I agree that it's too early to really make any meaningful commentary about this game (and I'm really hesitant to even be in this thread), but I would say that any piece of official promotional art for the game is an artifact and part of the product's existence.
Red Blaster
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op, youre probably jumping the gun a bit breh but i wouldnt give ubi the benefit of the doubt given far cry 3's status quo white savior story
Freaky Fred
Banned
all white? seriously?
stufte
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DAMNIT!
NotTheGuyYouKill
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OP has done more to set back gay characters and discourse about race in video games than the actual Far Cry 4 box art.
ricardo_sousa11
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Its just nowadays everything "offends" someone...if its a gay its because its gay, if it aint, its cuz it aint.
Your personal choice of sexual orientation does not make you somewhat special or extra sensitive.
What I feel is that sometimes people force to be offended, just because it doesnt fit THE STEREOTYPE THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE IN YOUR HEAD !
So they get offended, when a character OF THE SAME (hypothetical) SEXUAL ORIENTATION isnt portrayed as they like...that actually makes them prejudice themselves and hipocrite.
*This goes for any type of prejudice (sexual, race etc..)
I am not gay, and the only thing this cover offends me, is that its very bad designed, BUT it made me have interest for the character, seems like an interesting character.
Zomba13
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Better?
Wait. Now is this offensive because he now looks middle-eastern? shit. I'm not sure how to fix this to make it non-offensive to everyone.
Oh wait. Here we go:
I'm sure you could keep the RPG. The RPG wasn't hurting anyone.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Nope, you lost me. For future reference:
1) Don't tell a group of people you don't belong to how to act or how they should be doing things
2) "If all you want is equal rights, then Shut it already !" is unabashedly terrible
Better?
Wait. Now is this offensive because he now looks middle-eastern? shit. I'm not sure how to fix this to make it non-offensive to everyone.
Oh wait. Here we go:
Is that Saddam Hussein? You're totally right, second picture is the only safe one.
Artwork of person of color A in a position of power over person of color B =
If they are two different races,
If they were two different genders, it would be sexist.
If they were two different sexual orientations..
So on and so forth.
If it hadn't been for somebody being so concerned with the race and sexuality of others, I never would have noticed how hateful this artwork is.
If they are two different races,
If they were two different genders, it would be sexist.
If they were two different sexual orientations..
So on and so forth.
If it hadn't been for somebody being so concerned with the race and sexuality of others, I never would have noticed how hateful this artwork is.
Well you're the one who drew the conclusion that the character on the cover is gay based on outdated and judgemental stereotypes without any kind of further information, so how could I possibly come to that conclusion?
paolo11
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Apparently Noctis is gay too
Is he really gay? Was it confirmed? (I am not following FF XV news lately)
Freaky Fred
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Uncle Rupee
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Agreed, but let's not bring logic into this.
Mr. Smiley
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No.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
If he happens to be gay, it means 75% of people in this thread were wrong that looking sterotypical =/= acutally being sterotypical for FC4. It also means we have a gay guy in a purple suit, which is absolutetly fabulous! (/Sarcasm) Another thing is that the chance of homosexual actions against a MC will increase slightly which is pretty homophobic if you ask me.
Probably best to send a pic of your friend to the OP, he's an expert on this.
Nope, you can't be either gay or racist. It's just not possible for us brownies.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
But.... isn't the dude on the cover in the purple zoot suit the same race as the dude on the ground? He definitely doesn't look anglo white to me...
I'm seriously just not getting this at all. Doesn't look racists at all. Buck liked tha gentleman and was a completely unrepentant asshole... it wasn't a big deal. But whatever i suppose... everyone needs something to bitch about. I guess.
Such manufactured "controversy" ... some people just don't even try to see over their own soap box anymore.
Also - why does it matter if the antagonist is gay? ... what a muck trudge of a thread this is...
I'm seriously just not getting this at all. Doesn't look racists at all. Buck liked tha gentleman and was a completely unrepentant asshole... it wasn't a big deal. But whatever i suppose... everyone needs something to bitch about. I guess.
Such manufactured "controversy" ... some people just don't even try to see over their own soap box anymore.
Also - why does it matter if the antagonist is gay? ... what a muck trudge of a thread this is...
It would be a good porno
BRocknRolla
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Trucking in these generalizations reinforces stereotypes. YOU are trucking in these stereotypes with your thread, or at least assuming someone else may be. Either way, you are labeling the image with what YOU bring to it.
Even if the character ends up being gay, that means nothing! A straight person may be rich, flamboyant, and effeminate just as well as any gay person could be. Is a gay character not allowed to wear pink or be fashionable without being a stereotype? Seems rather unfair; you might even say discriminatory.
What is problematic is that based on your culture, YOU are seeing a gay stereotype. Maybe that's not your fault since that's an image the media has perpetuated. But now you're perpetuating it too. This game may well be offensive for any number of reasons, but this image, on its own, without context, is only offensive if you bring something offensive to it.
What if you find warmonger offensive though?
That's a Farcry I wanna play.
TatteredHat
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It's way too early to be starting with this shit, atleast wait until there's actual gameplay footage out or anything besides a single box-art image.
TheTurboFD
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Wow people see this as racist? The picture IMO just shows money is power.
TheBaronOfNA
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What about AC Liberation/FreedomCry?
Better?
Wait. Now is this offensive because he now looks middle-eastern? shit. I'm not sure how to fix this to make it non-offensive to everyone.
Oh wait. Here we go:
The second picture isn't displaying for me.
edit: Oh I get it...
As a gay man, I'd like to think I know a bit about homosexuality toostereotypes et al. I see nothing here implying the character is gay. I'd go with Russian/eastern European mobster over gay by (stereotypical) looks alone. Now if the character begins talking with a lisp and prancing around flamboyantly, then I'll get out my (bedazzled) pitchfork, but in the meantime I find your analysis more offensive than the allegedly gay antagonist.
what color is the shirt you are currently wearing?
That closet is waaaay open now. Any media outlet would have to be insane to give him a freelance gig with this nonsense attached and his reaction.
Ding ding...we have a winner
Stereotypes can't apply because???
Gay people can't be villians? Do you even understand what your typing? So by that logic every action movie/video game to date with straight villans was an attack on straight people saying they're all bad people?
Dr.Bergenstein
Banned
Somewhere, Richard Pryor and George Carlin are looking down at the Earth and shaking their heads.
I wish 50 Cent would release another game. It would be amazing to see what the reaction to something like Bulletproof would be in today's social climate.
Which leads me to the question. How the HELL does Rockstar avoid these controversies when you have jackasses like Veeren out there crying wolf everytime something bothers them?
I wish 50 Cent would release another game. It would be amazing to see what the reaction to something like Bulletproof would be in today's social climate.
Which leads me to the question. How the HELL does Rockstar avoid these controversies when you have jackasses like Veeren out there crying wolf everytime something bothers them?
legendofjelda
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In my opinion it would be freakin' great if this game dared to make me feel uncomfortable in the way that the OP fears it will. A racist homosexual lead character in a big budget, mass market title would be a victory for artistic freedom. This contemporary demand for political correctness in video games (and other entertainment products) is really holding storytelling back.
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