Wishmaster92
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and the polycount is higher (about 400k for each character) but as an overall package the image is much more pleasing than spirits within i'll say.
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The Order: 1886 New Previews, More
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and the polycount is higher (about 400k for each character) but as an overall package the image is much more pleasing than spirits within i'll say.
EventHorizon
Member
I can only go on what the devs emphasize when promoting the game. It seems clear that their focus was on 'cinemtics' as they put it. What they view as being the unique feature of the game is the seamless integration of cut scenes into the action. I'm saying that decision will backfire. It is possible that there is some incredible gameplay being hidden, but if so then this would be one of worst marketing campaigns ever.
dreamer3kx
Member
Seeing this makes me want Mass Effect even more.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
These are new interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zMbRvTky5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H92Oen2p73Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zMbRvTky5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H92Oen2p73Y
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Exactly. It doesn't matter how "brutal" or "visceral" the weapons are in concept, if they don't feel right, then it's for nothing. Feel comes from animation, sound and visual effects, and the way enemies react to being shot. Right now the bullet impacts look legitimately sub-par (not just compared to the high bar set by the rest of the presentation), and this is very evident in the bullet time clip.
There's still some aliasing in motion. No wonder that RAD Dev is obsessing over temporal AA. Would be very interesting to see how this improves.
Amazing.
I like the beards, the sideburns, the Arthurian legend, the mustaches, and especially the black borders. I've seen a lot of black borders but these are on a whole other level, I can tell you.
I'm glad they're concentrating on the story, I tend to be disappointed if they story is not up to par. I hope the weapons are well balanced and bring the oomph. However, look at those graphics, bloody nora!
I like the beards, the sideburns, the Arthurian legend, the mustaches, and especially the black borders. I've seen a lot of black borders but these are on a whole other level, I can tell you.
I'm glad they're concentrating on the story, I tend to be disappointed if they story is not up to par. I hope the weapons are well balanced and bring the oomph. However, look at those graphics, bloody nora!
Cheers dude.
dr guildo
Member
Couple of things I noticed:
Advertising for siamese twins, possible visit to circus? Or maybe even the same place as half-breeds, like some sort of "freak show"?
I mainly notice the embrodery's quality, and the folds creating shadows...
Scully Scully Scoo
Member
anyone else slightly annoyed seeing random brick walls 2 metres high on the street that can be used for cover? it takes away from the realism. wish they could incorporate it in a better way somehow
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
They built trenches in the war, why is it so difficult to believe they wouldn't build walls to hide behind and keep enemies out?
RicoTheMad
Banned
I was personally expecting something more of a hack and slash/shooter hybrid. Sort of survival horrorish, with a moody atmosphere ala Hellgate: London (with non-sucky gameplay).
This was a hope based on their original trailer mind you, which didn't give a lot of info. I know that given the more recent media, I was sadly mistaken. It's too bad :-(
Apparently those are quite faithful to the period. Used as seperators between houses where there was little to no yard. But then i'm no expert so it might be bullshit?
I cant stop looking at this gif. Does he fire with one hand if you do not hold L1? It looks so much cooler.
Some good stuff in the videos.
The Gametrailers interview irritated me a little, he presented soft-cover as something they were doing for the first time, despite Tomb Raider and TLoU doing it last year, he presented branching QTEs as something they were doing new, despite it being in Heavy Rain a few years ago, and he even talked about slow motion as if Max Payne didn't do it more than a decade ago.
The Gametrailers interview irritated me a little, he presented soft-cover as something they were doing for the first time, despite Tomb Raider and TLoU doing it last year, he presented branching QTEs as something they were doing new, despite it being in Heavy Rain a few years ago, and he even talked about slow motion as if Max Payne didn't do it more than a decade ago.
You still have to opt into cover with a button press. But after, you can pull off and re-enter very similar to The Last of Us.
Pressing X gets you out of soft cover as well as moving Y distance from cover objects.
By leaving the button press to get in, you gain the ability to slam/move quickly into cover, which is something we wanted (and liked from Gears).
Schrade
Member
Actually, that looks like two different modes on the gun. Notice how he moves his hand to the gun just before the shot that has a punch goes off. He moves it to the gun and does something on it.
Also, notice that the hits that have no punch are very smoky. It may be something like the thermite gun where it has two modes of fire.
This already has been gone over and over and over in the first screenshots/video that shows the alley. They aren't things randomly put there for cover. They are true to the time period.
anexanhume
Member
I think this is an issue all cover-based games face. You can walk into an area and immediately tell you're going to have combat there.
Source on the "cinematics are the focus"? From what I've read the focus has been making the game cinematic, which is completely different to the cinematics. The other thing they've said is that story informs gameplay (eg the last of us) not gameplay informs story (eg uncharted 3)
Also, they're on the right track for worst marketing campaign ever.
Graphics Horse
Member
It says flick the stick to choose targets, so I'm thinking it's to do with that. edit: oh you could be right, I was thinking there were more than two stances.
notoccupanther
Member
Nitpickers beware! .. you're missing out on the simple awesomeness that this title oozes, on a historical scale...this is landmark stuff.
of course there is always room for nitpicking to an extent, it's how the Devs are kept on their toes. Just stop and smell the roses every now and then 
Miles Quaritch
Member
WEBMS!
http://a.pomf.se/pphbuw.webm
http://a.pomf.se/cyplji.webm
http://a.pomf.se/wfzjfc.webm
http://a.pomf.se/icheiz.webm
Goddamn.
I'm speechless...
http://a.pomf.se/pphbuw.webm
http://a.pomf.se/cyplji.webm
http://a.pomf.se/wfzjfc.webm
http://a.pomf.se/icheiz.webm
Goddamn.
I'm speechless...
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
What HQ video?
Miles Quaritch
Member
Gametrailers video. It really does look stunning on a TV. Highly recommended viewing.
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/1a4n4k/the-order--1886-weapons-and-rooks-interview
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Sooooo badass
I will admit that while the delay is pretty lame, it looks like the game will be a major stunner when released.
ricen-beans
Member
So you're a developer on the game??!!
Anything else u can share w us? To help ease the worries of some on the gameplay, like will there be any upgrading or customization on the weapons? Or any other systems in place to enhance the gameplay?
Loving what I'm seeing so far btw.
I can't see anything topping it till maybe Uncharted 4...maybe.
But this and Driveclub both look bonkers good. Far better than I would have ever predicted the first wave of releases could look. I mean, this is not far off being; CGI: The Video Game.
Yea, I'm kind of shocked right now. That next-gen Uncharted will be stunning.
This.
Make sure you download and watch it. You need to create an account if you haven't already. Will take a minute.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
And some recent rumors have suggested the visuals in Uncharted 4 tops Order 1886, I am unable to fathom it, even though ND has been the top dog at making best looking cinematic experiences on the PlayStation hardware, closely matched by Santa Monica, Guerilla Games and Sucker Punch.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Absolutely. There's really no doubt that this is the best looking game we've seen so far.
Nothing comes close. If anyone disagrees, please don't just reply with a 'lol, no'. Provide some examples.
Yup, not sure what they were thinking with that twitch stream footage. Should have gone this route from the beginning.
Yup. Thanks for the webm. This specific one.. OMG
http://a.pomf.se/cyplji.webm
Blacklight seems awesome! I also love that the thermite gun is being used to draw a trail of smoke and then ignited in this vid. If there is one thing they can do it is to increase the sounds and recoil if possible and also improve the hit reaction.
Yeah, it's insane, and what's even more insane, this is RaD, we have QD, ND and SSM's shit to see yet.
God of War 4, I can't even begin to imagine.
Things that don't impress me:
1) Screen tearing. LOTS and LOTS of it. I'm usually not sensitive to tearing, but this really needs attention
2) Enemy hit reactions are virtually non existent. They have great collapsing animations at the end, but the shots in between seem to have no reaction at all. After playing wolfenstein, kz etc, this really sticks out.
3) The walking/running animations for the NPCs need more polish. The switching is abrupt and robotic
4) AI needs tweaking. Looks pretty rudimentary.
What impressed me:
1) The melting metal, which seems to be realtime softbody deformation. Really hope such tech is used for puzzles and combat.
2) Visuals are far beyond what I imagined this console generation could deliver.
3) The action is starting look a lot more fun.
Can't wait for E3!
1) Screen tearing. LOTS and LOTS of it. I'm usually not sensitive to tearing, but this really needs attention
2) Enemy hit reactions are virtually non existent. They have great collapsing animations at the end, but the shots in between seem to have no reaction at all. After playing wolfenstein, kz etc, this really sticks out.
3) The walking/running animations for the NPCs need more polish. The switching is abrupt and robotic
4) AI needs tweaking. Looks pretty rudimentary.
What impressed me:
1) The melting metal, which seems to be realtime softbody deformation. Really hope such tech is used for puzzles and combat.
2) Visuals are far beyond what I imagined this console generation could deliver.
3) The action is starting look a lot more fun.
Can't wait for E3!
LightofRohan
Member
Is there full decent quality footage without narration yet?
Do we know if it's coming from the video or the game? Gametrailers isn't exactly Gamersyde with their video quality.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Did we get any confirmation about screen tearing actually present in the game when they showed it to the press two weeks back or is it the problem with gametrailers video player and youtube?
