They have to hit that hard PC launch deadline. Definitely don't have the luxury of taking their time.
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Dead Rising 3 PC "optimized" for 30fps. User can uncap at own glitchy risk. Cacpcom.
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They have to hit that hard PC launch deadline. Definitely don't have the luxury of taking their time.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Capcom keeps protecting my wallet.
Dead Rising 3 seems like a very mediocre game to me, so I was already on the fence anyways.
I am glad they inform us directly not to buy their games instead of having to wait for reviews honestly.
If 99% of modern PC games can support 60FPS, then yes, it is the minimum standard.
Well it would engage vsync at half the refresh of your monitor (or what is set to your resolution) with latency for the extra frame for the back buffer. So not to complicate things about input, driver and engine latency say you have a 60hz monitor 2 frame vsync would take 33ms per frame update with an added 33ms latency for the frame in the back buffer (not counting a blanking interval either). A 120hz monitor would be 60fps or 16ms at 2 Frame vsync and only 30fps or 33ms at 3. If you just cap the engine to update no more than 30 fps you have 33ms less latency (if at 60hz of course) but if you can't render a frame in time you'd get tearing (though capping to a number not divisible by your monitors refresh rate, say 32fps, would be best so not to get a static tear line).
One of the benefits of a high refresh monitor is that because the screen is refreshing way faster tearing is a lot less bothersome (even is a benefit if you get no where near 120fps) and you cut down on a tiny bit of latency. Not going to be too much of an issue with something like a Watch_Dogs or a Dead Rising but a competitive shooter or fighter it becomes key. Hence why that Eizo Foris costs a small fortune.
This is exactly how I feel. As I don't own an XBO, the fact they're bringing it to the PC is a blessing. Maybe the port visually will be astounding (though I doubt it). I do think it'll have a solid framerate, even if at 30FPS. I hope it's optimized well- I mean if they're capping it, it better look/run gloriously!
I just hope the port runs well. I seem to be capping my Third person open world experiences at 30FPS of late- been switching between Watch_Dogs and AC3. It bothered me at first seeing it bounce all over the place, so I had to cap it. It's a shame they couldn't achieve a higher framerate (or maybe they didn't even bother), but as long as it is solid I can stay hyped!
Bananajama
Banned
Are these guys actually capable of well... you know...
It's very good if you've enjoyed either of the other two games and play it on Nightmare.
For me, it becomes a bigger issue with games I care less about. Having essentially a low ceiling to a game's performance, even as I upgrade my PC kinda sucks. It also stings coming from the great Capcom ports in the past.
Chance Hale
Member
It'd be a ceiling performance wise but as you upgrade your computer the IQ would continue to improve as you become able to downsample from 4K, use SGSSAA, and so on. And the fact that these kind of caps are so rare and Capcom ports so good generally really makes me doubt this but again we shall see.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
Woah.
Woah.
Woah, time the fuck out, who cares what this thread is about.
Are you telling me that all weapons have 60fps reload animations except for the bolt action sniper rifle.
Gumbie
Member
Crimsonclaw111
Member
The bolt action and Semi-Auto rifles are too much for 60fps.
Every reload has to be filmic for the bolt rifle, it's too godly.
it's always weird to read arguments like this because it looks like one side is going "i was kinda interested and this news tipped me in the direction of not buying" and the other side arguing that the first group is somehow insane for having preferences and is actually obligated to purchase the product in question
Because it's disappointing they didn't take the extra time with it. Because they don't seem to care.
This won't be a hugely demanding game as long as it's ported well, a lot of hardware would be able to run this with 60fps np.
If they fluke it and pull of a good 60fps experience with only minor niggles, it'll be good of course, but they're still not putting enough effort into the platform which doesn't install good faith.
Chance Hale
Member
It's even more interesting as to why people put words in peoples mouths in order to make them look silly. Not to mention most people in this thread didn't say it in the completely reasonable way you did, it has generally been some form of childish cursing combined with name calling.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Lol... "We're not going to stop you from uncapping the framerate, seeing what your hardware can really do with this game, but we can't guarantee the experience because we just don't really know what's going to happen"
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
This has to be a bad translation... not know what is going to happen? Lol, that's like saying : "We didn't test our game... good luck"
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
This has to be a bad translation... not know what is going to happen? Lol, that's like saying : "We didn't test our game... good luck"
paperspace
Member
We really need a 60fps standard on consoles.
metareferential
Member
The incompetence some japanese developers (or publishers, or worse both) display is just baffling.
First Dark Souls, then this (and the list could go on forever).
Why would they even port the game?
Besides, it's not like the develop this on some alien tech.
First Dark Souls, then this (and the list could go on forever).
Why would they even port the game?
Besides, it's not like the develop this on some alien tech.
ClaptoVaughn
Member
How does it compare in terms of map size and playthrough length (main story + side quests)?
you're right, i should accurately describe your particular position, which as far as i can tell is that uncapping the framerate won't break anything even though the capcom rep said that uncapping the framerate will break things
Riposte
Member
You know, one day I hope to visit the great Japanese city of Vancouver.
ss_lemonade
Member
So will this be like Bioshock on the xbox, where disabling vsync would make the game reach 60 fps but physics stayed at a lower frame rate (30)?
Chance Hale
Member
Why wouldn't they port the game? Xbox One version runs at 720P and has some of the worst IQ I've seen on a console, while not maintaining a steady framerate either. This game will look great at 4K.
Also, this game was developed by a western team. Also, please continue that list that would go on forever.
Totally.
Chance Hale
Member
Ja
Game uses a different engine though. Still, you'd think with their experience they wouldn't do such a thing. Doubt the engine is build around 30 FPS in some kind of horrible nightmare offspring of idtech5.
Dead Rising 3 uses a completely new engine.
DemurOnion
Banned
It's good I don' t have any intention of playing this.
True, but since they used 60 fps for DR2, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't support that in the new engine.
SneakyStephan
Banned
The OP states that the game can be uncapped and the video posted makes no mention of the animations being locked.
You can use your 1000+ pc to play the game at 4K if nothing else
What do you get out of endlessly defending this? There is no point defending this from a consumer standpoint nor from a gamer one.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
Honestly, I'm not sure in terms of raw numbers. I think it was about the same length as the second game (maybe 15 hours) for a non-100% playthrough, and it felt like it took place in a larger area. The city wasn't as big as one you'd see in something like GTA, but it upped the size while still maintaining the focused feeling of the malls in the first two games (by having a lot of storefronts to enter, mostly).
Then don't bring it to PC.
Like fuck this shit and always having PC gamers compromising, and compromising and compromising. Are we some kind of Experimental_Dogs where we should be always happy they are porting something?
We don't care about this bullshit culture of "Buy this on XYZ console and you will get a free T-shirt with Pamela Anderson showing her tits. Only on XYZ console". We just want to be respected as equal customers like console customers, respect and respect is earned by a smooth performance. Why is that too much to ask?
This needs to be stopped permanently and call it out.
I can't believe you are expecting the customer to bow his head and say "Thank you very much Sir, whatever you say Sir, as you wish Sir".
Chance Hale
Member
Because it's unconfirmed as to how it works and most of the people sprouting hyperbolic nonsense are acting like it is. Most of my comments have just been responses to people saying it's not better than the Xbox One version which is hilariously wrong. Higher resolutions would do wonders for the game. If nothing else the huge amount of "fuck capcom" responses are really childish and reflect badly on the people saying it.
I'm not super stoked about this, and everyone is entitled to their opinions, and to vote with their dollars.
But man.. I can tell there are not a load of game programmers in this thread, cause unlocking frame rates is not a trivial thing when it comes to gameplay bits that are dependant on it. Stop being babies.
The biggest thing I take away from it, is that Capcom is being a little cool by actually allowing you to unlock the frame rate at their own risk!
And all the people calling for Durante signal are kinda lame too, cause he was able to unlock the frame rate in Dark Souls 1 DSFix.. but he had the exact fucking disclaimer that it was at your own risk as the physics systems were tied to frame rate. It is possible to go through the ground while sliding down a ladder on an unlocked framerate DSFix DarkSouls 1 game.
But man.. I can tell there are not a load of game programmers in this thread, cause unlocking frame rates is not a trivial thing when it comes to gameplay bits that are dependant on it. Stop being babies.
The biggest thing I take away from it, is that Capcom is being a little cool by actually allowing you to unlock the frame rate at their own risk!
And all the people calling for Durante signal are kinda lame too, cause he was able to unlock the frame rate in Dark Souls 1 DSFix.. but he had the exact fucking disclaimer that it was at your own risk as the physics systems were tied to frame rate. It is possible to go through the ground while sliding down a ladder on an unlocked framerate DSFix DarkSouls 1 game.
They probably figure that some people without an Xbox One might want to play it, even in only-slightly-better-than-Xbox-One form.
Willy Wanka
my god this avatar owns
Shame but I'll still be getting it. I've zero problem with playing games at 30fps as long as that framerate stays rock solid.
bobawesome
Member
Oh man, two whole games
one of which wasn't even developed in Japan
Chance Hale
Member
The list is ENDLESS
Wag
Member
Doesn't this game have a different engine/developer tho?
I would prefer having the game on the platform, even if it is a garbage port. There are always mods or tweaks that can bring the game to acceptable, or even better, levels.
You're probably right, it's just disheartening seeing a platform that's your primary not get exploited for all its potential.
I don't want a console because I don't like gamepads and lower framerates (shoot me), but I'm going to have to buy both the new consoles because:
1. I NEED Masterchief Edition.
2. I need the ps4 for better multiplat Destiny.
I know, woe is me, but it still sucks I don't get to use my more powerful hardware for certain games, and when we do its not utilised fully.
I guess it's just residual resentment being compounded, even if it's not their fault and they're actually doing us a favour.