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[BY2K]

Why is there so much vitriol directed towards the game's perceived gender bias? Casts with primarily male characters receive only a fraction of the salt.

I have no problem with that, but every playable character revealed that isn't Link is a girl. Get some Groose up in here!

 

[emb]

So the SS costumes, those are just DLC, right?

 

[Kinsei]

So the SS costumes, those are just DLC, right?

Yeah. Hopefully they are free in the west since we're not getting the collectors edition.

 

[TDLink]

It's because the Zelda series has a ton of awesome male characters that would be great in this game.

I have my own reasons for disliking it separate from that, but I'm most likely being overly cynical.

Name me 3 that aren't Groose or Darunia, from a 3D Zelda game (Since it's obvious they are the only ones being represented in Hyrule Warriors).

 

[mclem]

Name me 3 that aren't Groose or Darunia, from a 3D Zelda game (Since it's obvious they are the only ones being represented in Hyrule Warriors).

Actually, i wonder if that *will* be the case...

Agahnim could be a fun inclusion.

 

[Josh7289]

Awwwww shit! I'm excited for this game.

 

[Kinsei]

Name me 3 that aren't Groose or Darunia, from a 3D Zelda game (Since it's obvious they are the only ones being represented in Hyrule Warriors).

King of Hyrule
Darmani (Does this count?)
Alfonzo
Mikau (Does this count?)
Deku Butler
Byrne

There, I named 6 and I can still keep going.

 

[emb]

King of Hyrule
Darmani (Does this count?)
Alfonzo
Mikau (Does this count?)
Deku Butler
Byrne

There, I named 6 and I can still keep going.

If Agitha counts, anything counts.

 

[ActuallyHulk]

This is a cool reveal. I didn't like her in SS because she was constantly babying me over the battery life and other things but I can't see that being in a Musou game. I found the character herself to be fine. I really want Malon at some point though so I can attack with farm animals and milk jugs. I also like redheads.

 

[Golnei]

Name me 3 that aren't Groose or Darunia, from a 3D Zelda game (Since it's obvious they are the only ones being represented in Hyrule Warriors).

Mikau, Darmani, Shad, Igos du Ikana, Alfonzo, Batreaux, Rauru / Kaepora Gaebora, Yuga, Ravio, Linebeck, Makar, Salvatore, Beedle, Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule, Happy Mask Salesman, Skull Kid, Scervo, Chancellor Cole, Scrapper and Byrne would be pretty cool.

 

[Kinsei]

If Agitha counts, anything counts.

I asked if they counted as he/she could just come back with "They are just other forms of Link." ignoring the fact that they clearly had their own backstories and character motivations before dying and becoming masks.

 

[TDLink]

King of Hyrule
Darmani (Does this count?)
Alfonzo
Mikau (Does this count?)
Deku Butler
Byrne

There, I named 6 and I can still keep going.

I'll give you King of Hyrule, Darmani, and Mikau. The others are from handheld games and thus are also sort of ineligible since it's pretty clear they won't be included in this game. Though those aren't bad choices if they were. And my overall point was, even if Darmani and Mikau technically count, it's kind of stretching to find good male characters from OOT, MM, TWW, TP, and SS. Most of the supporting cast is female. And that's reflected in the character choices so far in Hyrule Warriors.

 

[sphagnum]

I really hope there's more than 9 playable characters, because as much as I like all the choices so far, there's still a ton of characters I would want to play before some new character like Lana.

Fi is pretty cool though. Also I'm glad about the Skyward Sword DLC.

 

[TDLink]

Mikau, Darmani, Shad, Igos du Ikana, Alfonzo, Batreaux, Rauru / Kaepora Gaebora, Yuga, Ravio, Linebeck, Makar, Salvatore, Beedle, Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule, Happy Mask Salesman, Skull Kid, Scervo, Chancellor Cole, Scrapper and Byrne would be pretty cool.

This is a better list of potential male characters and I would like to see a lot of them. However, I still think anything not from the 5 3D console games has no chance based on what has been revealed so far. But yes, I basically would love to see most of those you just listed.

I really hope there's more than 9 playable characters, because as much as I like all the choices so far, there's still a ton of characters I would want to play before some new character like Lana.

Fi is pretty cool though. Also I'm glad about the Skyward Sword DLC.

There are already more than 9. 9 was never confirmed, it was dumb internet speculation based on a E3 demo's character select screen.

 

[WrenchNinja]

I never really got the hate for Fi. She's not as good as Midna or King of Red Lions, but she's still a decent character. Way better than Navi and Tatl at least.

Interested in seeing her moveset.

Although I'm probably more happy to see SS Zelda aka Best Zelda is in the game.

Decent characters have actual character arcs and not the bullshit they shoehorn in with Fi at the end. Being better than Navi and Tatl isn't exactly high praise.

 

[MrSaturn99]

fuck this game

Spoiler

okay, I'm still getting it, but seriously. Fuck this shit.

 

[The Red Wizard]

Did you not read online forums years ago or read magazines? Because both had tons of information prior to release. Secrets didn't exist - you knew what characters would be in way before release. You must be new.

Also, I suggest a little thing called "media blackout".

It's a bit hard to go on a media blackout when thread titles are advertising specific information about games instead of just game titles and leaving the details for the thread itself.

You can't half ass a media blackout. If you don't want details don't come into the discussion thread.

I only came in here after reading the title. I made my post and I just skim the topic looking for blue boxes that indicate replies to my posts. I didn't even read the OP, I just wanted to voice my disdain. I don't even go into OTs until I feel that I've finished a game.

Right there in the forum description (first bullet point even). Don't want to discuss video game news? Don't visit a news forum, easy as that.

The Steam thread does a good job of posting news without blatant spoilers.

 

[Blues1990]

fuck this game

Spoiler

okay, I'm still getting it, but seriously. Fuck this shit.

How come? I think it looks like it can be a blast.

 

[foxuzamaki]

sweet! I really like fi.

 

[zroid]

yeeeeeessssssssss


also: SKYWARD SWORD ZELDA COSTUME FUCK YEAH

How come? I think it looks like it can be a blast.

it's his shtick

 

[Golnei]

yeeeeeessssssssss


also: SKYWARD SWORD ZELDA COSTUME FUCK YEAH

Too bad they chose the wrong SS costume for Link. We don't need 4 green tunics.

 

[Mariolee]

fuck this game

Spoiler

okay, I'm still getting it, but seriously. Fuck this shit.

The Skyward Sword hate is strong.

 

[MrSaturn99]

How come? I think it looks like it can be a blast.

LOL I just really hate Fi. I have no doubt about the game being fun too.

In all seriousness it's not like there wasn't going to be SS characters playable anyway so I can't say I'm too surprised.

 

[Lord_Byron28]

Mikau, Darmani, Shad, Igos du Ikana, Alfonzo, Batreaux, Rauru / Kaepora Gaebora, Yuga, Ravio, Linebeck, Makar, Salvatore, Beedle, Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule, Happy Mask Salesman, Skull Kid, Scervo, Chancellor Cole, Scrapper and Byrne would be pretty cool.

Im surprised no one has named Vaati yet. He was in 4 games and was the main boss in most of them.

 

[silvermember]

I guess to some people having a female dominated cast is the worst thing ever.

 

[y2dvd]

She's a terribly lip-syncher though.

 

[Golnei]

Im surprised no one has named Vaati yet. He was in 4 games and was the main boss in most of them.

I left him out because TDLink specified male supporting characters from the 3D games. From the 2D games, I wouldn't mind seeing Din, Vaati, Onox, Veran, Aganhim, Blind and Marin.

 

[Kinsei]

I guess to some people having a female dominated cast is the worst thing ever.

I'd be fine with it if I didn't suspect ulterior motives.

 

[TDLink]

Im surprised no one has named Vaati yet. He was in 4 games and was the main boss in most of them.

i was specifically asking for non-villain supporting characters in a 3D game (he has only been in 2D ones). I agree Vaati would be awesome though. A lot of the 2D/handheld characters would be awesome. I just get that feeling we are only getting characters from the 5 3D console games.

I'd be fine with it if I didn't suspect ulterior motives.

Ulterior motives like what? In OOT, MM, TWW, TP, and SS most of the major supporting characters are in fact female. The males are usually the less plot relevant NPCs like shopkeepers and quirky like Tingle. Groose is the major standout exception. I also personally think Darunia is an exception, but there are 4 other characters equally important as him who are females.

 

[TDLink]

EDIT: Didn't mean to double post

 

[Kinsei]

i was specifically asking for non-villain supporting characters in a 3D game (he has only been in 2D ones). I agree Vaati would be awesome though. A lot of the 2D/handheld characters would be awesome. I just get that feeling we are only getting characters from the 5 3D console games.



Ulterior motives like what? In OOT, MM, TWW, TP, and SS most of the major supporting characters are in fact female. The males are usually the less plot relevant NPCs like shopkeepers and quirky like Tingle. Groose is the major standout exception. I also personally think Darunia is an exception, but there are 4 other characters equally important as him who are females.

Fetish bait. I don't trust Omega Force and Team Ninja.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

They said in the treehouse stream that half the playable cast is female.

That implies, you know, half isn't.

Stop freaking out.

 

[georly]

Yeah. Hopefully they are free in the west since we're not getting the collectors edition.

Just because it hasn't been announced doesn't mean we're not getting it! I still have hope. That said, TK is publishing in Japan while NOA and NOE are publishing in the west, so it's very likely we won't... but still! Zelda fans are nuts (myself included) and will buy most anything official w/ 'Zelda' on it. They'd be throwing money away.

They said in the treehouse stream that half the playable cast is female.

That implies, you know, half isn't.

Stop freaking out.

They actually said 'more than half.'

That implies that 'less than half' is male. If it's 10 characters, for example, at most 4 will be male.

 

[StreetsAhead]

They said in the treehouse stream that half the playable cast is female.

That implies, you know, half isn't.

Stop freaking out.

But, but, but, but!

What if they're only including women so people can get off to them?

Think about it.

 

[munchie64]

It's cool but the fact that Groose wasn't confirmed with her makes me worried

 

[Insaniac]

Too many females in the game!!! rabble rabble rabble

 

[L~A]

They said in the treehouse stream that half the playable cast is female.

That implies, you know, half isn't.

Stop freaking out.

Just like people will always freak out everytime Sakurai's Smash pic is one minute late, people will freak out about the lack of male playable characters in Hyrule Warriors

There's nothing much to be done until they announce a lil' Hylian sausage fest, I'm afraid.

 

[James Scott]

So, are they doing this for more Zelda games? Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask? Wind Waker? That would be neat fan service (and a way for them to make extra money by selling us more costume DLC).

 

[PKrockin]

I'd be fine with it if I didn't suspect ulterior motives.

Ulterior motives? Hahahahaha

Go ahead and make the roster Link + Groose + 8 females, Nintendo. Keep those jimmies rustled.

 

[Waylon Drums]

Someone's upset no one cares about wart.

I really am

 

[Lunar15]

Oh haha, I see how it is. They'll announce Groose last as a special DLC mission called Grooseland Warriors.

Good one, Nintendo. You really worried me there for a second. Haha.

ha.

Spoiler

I like Fi though.

 

[victreeb3l]

Awesome. Fis design is excellent. I'm now 10% more likely to play Hyrule Warriors.

Oh shit Skyward Sword costumes? Good lord yes

 

[foxuzamaki]

Oh yes! Fi is great. Haters to the left.

I still don't like how every playable character besides Link (and Fi, who is genderless, but still look like one) is female, though.

This is such an interesting complaint, cause in most games its usually the other way around.

 

[McLovin]

Oh great Fi, you know she wasn't thaaaat bad. Navi... now Navi was bad! HEY!!!!... HEY!!!!.... HEEEEY!!!.... LISTEN!!!

 

[FaintDeftone]

I liked Fi *shrugs*

Yet I didn't have an issue with Navi either.

 

[Glass Rebel]

Wait. Link's alternate SS costume is the green tunic while Zelda gets her awesome robes?

The females aren't the ones getting the shaft in this game, that's for sure.

 

[Gorestrafe]

Say what you will about Fi...

But if this game doesn't include Gannondorf and Fierce Deity Link as playable characters, then it's a fail on all levels.

 

[foxuzamaki]

To those complaining about all of the ladies...

When you think back on Zelda games historically, other than Link, the plurality of the characters that rise above 1 note NPC status have, in fact been female. Marin, Ruto, Saria, Navi, Zelda, Midna, Malon, Hilda, Impa, Din, Farore, Nayru, Ciella, Impa, Telma, the Great Faeries, Ilia, Tetra and even agitha had a substantial, rather important sidequest associated. Thinking of non-villain male equivalents you've got the king of red lions, mido, skull kid, the deku tree, the post man, Darunia.... and shopkeepers.

Now I missed a tonne, but at least my impression has always been that most of the significant NPC's have always been female in Zelda. Luckily as it is a dynasty warriors game the villain characters are likely to be playable,and there will be plenty of males as well.

Plus I doubt Aonuma was stunned by 9 characters haha, I think we're more likely to have triple that than end up with just the 9 playables. Also they seem to be announcing characters by games, I imagine all of the twilight princess characters are announced now, obviously we've moved on to skyward sword, and there are 3 DLC costume packs right? 1 is Skyward Sword we now know, one is twilight princess, do we know the 3rd? I would guess It's OOT/MM. I doubt we get any windwaker, phantom hourglass or spirit tracks characters due to visual consistency (as much as is possible in a musou game). I would expect announcements of Grouse, The bamboo island guy, confimations of playable Ghirahim, and demise, as well as perhaps a few few suprise residents of Skyloft, perhaps one of the patrolman riding on his loftwing. I imagine skull-kid, a good deal of the sages, and the happy mask salesman will be introduced in the OOT/MM block after they are done revealing skyward sword stuff.

Exactly, any true zelda fan should know, that most NPCs with any importance or character development have been female.

 

[Black Door]

This is such an interesting complaint, cause in most games its usually the other way around.

especially with all of the bandwagoners piling on each other in the "Ubisoft doesn't put females in their games" thread

 

[Kriken]

Eh, didn't like her in SS, but this game isn't SS and the problems I had with her there probably won't exist here. So this looks interesting, curious as to who is remaining for playable hero characters