Leafhopper
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Do I get games I actually am interested in with it?
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500 USD PS4 that was even more powerful. Would that be better?
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kahboomkin
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People are already upset about the power difference between the Xbox and PS4, why make that situation worse?
JudgmentJay
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I would absolutely buy a more powerful PS4. I already have a very powerful PC, but I wouldn't mind having a more powerful console for exclusives. If I could pay more money to have Bloodborne/DriveClub run at 60 FPS instead of 30 I'd do it in a heartbeat.
1.21Gigawatts
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How much better would these look if the Ps4 was a 500$ machine?
Would make those graphics possible in VR.
Leafhopper
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Not like it being more powerful would stop developers for choosing 30 FPS because they wanted to have it that way.
Uno Venova
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Why would I want them to price the console so high out of my and most consumers price range? To satisfy the vocal minority not satisfied with the specs on a hardcore gaming forum?
1.21Gigawatts
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Developers would still go for 30FPS and would pack in even more eye candy.
PdotMichael
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Cheaper console with a shorter planned lifetime is better than the two "future proof" monsters like the PS3 and Xbox 360, which were pushed 2-3 years too long because they were so fucking expensive for the customers and companies.
DemonCleaner
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for me yes. for sony,not so sure.
Mr.Miyamoto
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Up until you hit Titan Black levels, more powerful is always better.
Toothless Spoon
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They need to just dump consoles and everyone go PC, so we can have options as players to adjust anything we need to and more importantly not get any crappy ports.
rbanke
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that top image is triggering avast fyi.
They make great screenshots well enough but the interest here is of performance. How many of those games run at a stable 60 fps? And what about VR, how it will perform then?!?
Chinpoko_Master
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I doubt that. VR is really demanding.
lyrick
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Possibly a lot assuming that it all went to increasing the output of the CPU and GPU to something more powerful. Being almost comparable to a r9 270 is cute and all, but it's so close to the r7 boundary that it would have been nice to see something that won't be comparable to bargain cards by the next refresh.
JudgmentJay
Member
That's probably true. If that were the case then I don't care. The graphics are good enough for consoles. The framerates are not.
DreadPirateRoberts
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I'd rather have it come with a ssd
silver.tongue
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No. I'm fine with what we got and the price we got it
Sounds like you should buy a pc.
Sounds like you should buy a pc.
Vast majority of console sale happens after they release the slim/cost down version. They need to reach the $249 price point for a console to take off and cross the 30-40M sale mark.
The first 10-20M console sales are easy. They are bought by enthusiast. After that price becomes a important factor .. for grandma's Christmas shopping.
Else PS4 will be another Vita. Great hardware, with all the publishes just making games for iOS and not bothering about Vita at all.
The first 10-20M console sales are easy. They are bought by enthusiast. After that price becomes a important factor .. for grandma's Christmas shopping.
Else PS4 will be another Vita. Great hardware, with all the publishes just making games for iOS and not bothering about Vita at all.
The_Hitcher89
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Better for me, potentially disastrous for Sony
Chinpoko_Master
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I would've liked a more powerful PS4, but I think going with a $400 price point was the right choice for Sony. The PS4 already has a significant power advantage over the Xbox One, so giving it more power and losing the price advantage would've been pointless.
When PCs have all the benefits of first party support, services (and innovation from those services which later seep their way into PC platforms), you can call it a PC.
Crimson_Fate
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I would have preferred to have a modular CPU/GPU .
The games could have been made to scale depending upon which CPU/GPU was installed. This way people could upgrade as their budget permitted and the console could live a long time .
I am expecting that the next console will be modular.( and even more pc like)
The games could have been made to scale depending upon which CPU/GPU was installed. This way people could upgrade as their budget permitted and the console could live a long time .
I am expecting that the next console will be modular.( and even more pc like)
I assume you mean exclusive games when you say first party support, sure, I agree.
But what exactly do you mean by services?
I can only think of :
Voice communication
Digital downloads (games, automatic patches etc)
Streaming services (netflix and other movie/series streaming, music streaming services)
All of which were widely available on PCs years before any console.
wanderjahr
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No, not really. Regardless of the PS4 hardware, most developers will develop for parity for both consoles. It makes no sense for one to drastically outperform the other. If you want that much more power, buy a PC.
outunderthestars
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As someone who likes the PS4, I'm not sure if that system's anemic first party output is really that much of a benefit these days.
Also this.
No because it would land them in the exact same position they are in now, tech wise. No console can compete with a PC in the long run
The key was just being slightly more powerful than the Xbox and have that get spread like a virus, being 10% better or 40% in this day and age would not be that noticeable
But that 100 dollar extra on the price? Yeah that would be a problem.
They nailed the "it is powerful!" with a attractive price.
The key was just being slightly more powerful than the Xbox and have that get spread like a virus, being 10% better or 40% in this day and age would not be that noticeable
But that 100 dollar extra on the price? Yeah that would be a problem.
They nailed the "it is powerful!" with a attractive price.
Various Artists
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I think they pretty much nailed it at the current price/performance ratio.
Like what?
And if you had what you wanted, console exclusives wouldn't meaningfully exist. Sony wouldn't be spending huge sums of money to make games for a platform they don't have sole ownership of (including licensing fees).
1.21Gigawatts
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Uncharted is said to run at 1080p 60FPS and I'd say its the best looking thing I've seen so far, no matter what plattform.
I just think many people are vastly underestimating these new consoles because what we've got so far was mainly poorly optimised crossgen rushjobs on last gen engines.
These are not representative of what we will be getting in the coming months and years and I'm sure soon many people will be sursprised by what these console can do.
outunderthestars
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have we seen anything fo the actual game yet?
andromeduck
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I think $420 with higher CPU/GPU clocks or more memory would have been incredible.
1.21Gigawatts
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Well the cutscene we've seen is part of the actual game and NaughtyDog decided to make Uncharted 4 cutscenes realtime and not prerendered like in their previous games.
They also stated numerous times on Twitter that the game is going to look like that if not better.
Lightning4Ever
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Probably not. The $400 pricepoint was perfect and what got me to get it at launch. XB1 being $500 made it an easy pass for me.
JudgmentJay
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I'm looking forward to Uncharted 4 as much as the next person, but you'll have to forgive me if I don't think the final game will look that good (or look that good and run at 60 FPS). I hope I'm wrong, but I'm probably not.
Twentytwo2277
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I would have payed $500 USD for the same system with the same power if every featured mentioned was available at launch. Media server, suspend, themes, folders, better notifications etc etc.
1.21Gigawatts
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This tweet didn't sound like they will fail to deliver: https://twitter.com/cgyrling/status/476643538730381313
Coming from the lead programmer that quite the statement and I don't have any reason to doubt NaughtyDog.
Gusy
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I look at Infamous SS, Tomb Raider DE, Flower HD, MGSV and ...yeah... I´m pretty comfortable where we are standing graphically right now. Hell, I still think GTAV , KZ2 and GoW3 look spectacular.
PS4 level hardware + talented / especialized developers coding to the metal = Awesome results.
PS4 level hardware + talented / especialized developers coding to the metal = Awesome results.
Also...diminishing returns... 
Cizeta-Moroder
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I had so many plans for a 11.5GB GDDR5 GTX 670 4570k@5.9GHz PS4 with mandatory camera.