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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!

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Moonlight said:
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So glorious, so accurate, so BRASS
 
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Village

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Moonlight said:
I don't know how to keep rephrasing this. Brawl's theme was heavier and darker than the content and concept needed or demanded. SSB isn't just a crossover fighter, it's a fun celebratory romp through Nintendo's oldest and newest properties and mascots. The whole idea was based around playing around with figures. Brawl's dark latin chorus and self-serious tone to its' main theme seemed disconnected with that premise. It might have been true for Subspace Emissary (which I don't have clear memory of), but certainly not for Smash itself. Melee and even 4 resemble parade music more than anything else, which is entirely appropriate to the kind of event that SSB is.

Like if you still don't understand what I mean then I can't really be bothered to continue since clearly I am equally misunderstanding you right now.
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I never saw brawls theme as dark at, it was just a fantastical ass theme with latin chorus to signify how hard you were going to punch someone in the face. I have heard a number of dark orchestral themes in video games, movies, television,and just music in general. I fundamentally do not understand the dark edge you are seeing at all.

Also you may be putting an entire level of weight on smash bros that I do not. To me smash is just a crossover fighting game, its just nintendo fighting game. And I never liked the toy angle either, thought it was dumb. We may have two sets of values when it comes to this. Yeah it goes through nintendo's history, but that's kind of what crossover fighting games do a lot of the time, when its company wide, this isn't special at all. Its just Nintendo, Well that whats makes it special, but that is what makes every cross over fighting game special, branding.
 
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Dryk

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I don't get what you're all arguing about, for me there's just no contest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDJRe58nPW8

I don't know why Brawl's theme doesn't sit right with me though, it just does. It might be the overuse, it might be the tone, it might be fact that the video it accompanied was lazy and shit. I'll probably never know.

Brawl's remixes of Melee's opening and menu are amazing though. I remember the first time I heard that we were going to be able to rock out to it on Final Destination.
 
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Moonlight

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Village said:
I never saw brawls theme as dark at, it was just a fantastical ass theme with latin chorus to signify how hard you were going to punch someone in the face.

I have heard a number of dark orchestral themes in video games, movies, television,and just music in general. I fundamentally do not understand the dark edge you are seeing at all.

Also you may be putting an entire level of weight on smash bros that I do not. To me smash is just a crossover fighting game, its just nintendo fighting game. And I never liked the toy angle either, thought it was dumb.

We may have two sets of values when it comes to thi.
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I'm just like... if you can identify that there's like, a difference in tone between this and this, that's sort of what I mean? Brawl's theme just felt... epic and serious and all those things, and Melee felt like something a lot more uplifting and celebratory. To take things into extremes, it'd be like if you set Kirby to a black metal soundtrack. Just didn't feel appropriate to the premise they were going for.

In any case, we can agree to disagree here because I don't think this is going to get anywhere very quickly.

BY2K said:
You know what I can't wait to see? The game's intro.
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I hope it's like Melee in that there's a legit cinematic to go with it instead of just cutting together a bunch of newcomer videos or something. Brawl was kinda disappointing since everything there was cribbed from SSE.
 
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MaverickHunterAsh said:
Oh, we're ranking main themes? Brawl = 4 > Melee > 64 for me.

As for character select themes... well, maybe the same. Undecided on if I like Brawl's or 4's more, though.

Can't believe all this talk about Brawl's main theme being horrible. Poppycock!
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Totally agree. Brawl was epic (alternate main theme is even more epic with the voices) and 4 looks awesome. Melee was really good too, 64 good.

When people says that Brawl has the worst theme song I seriously think it is because they just hate on Brawl to hate on Brawl. That game had the most amazing soundrack in the entire Smash series. Why the hate !?
 
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I don't care if they reuse clips from the trailers or not (they have been the best CG stuff for Smash, better than anything in SSE, and surpasses Melee's opening). I just want the music and the opening to match each other. I think people are forgetting the fact Melee's first trailer was actually the opening, so yea, they reused Melee's original trailer for the opening.

Look at SSB64's opening.
Look at Melee's opening.

The music matched well with what is shown.

Now what gives me hope for this happening is the SSB4 reveal trailer and the Smash Direct montage at the beginning (especially the former). Even the gameplay clips in the initial trailer matched the music/beat. It was nicely done.
 
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Moonlight

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InsuRn said:
When people says that Brawl has the worst theme song I seriously think it is because they just hate on Brawl to hate on Brawl. That game had the most amazing soundrack in the entire Smash series. Why the hate !?
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:lol

I had plenty of fun with Brawl. Liked a lot of its' music, too. Didn't like the main theme and I've already explained why at length. I think it's a bit defensive to deflect any criticism to some blanket dislike of the game.
 
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DaBoss said:
Now what gives me hope for this happening is the SSB4 reveal trailer and the Smash Direct montage at the beginning (especially the former). Even the gameplay clips in the initial trailer matched the music/beat. It was nicely done.
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Yep, I can't even emphasize how much I really want to see long extended version of that intro.
 
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InsuRn said:
When people says that Brawl has the worst theme song I seriously think it is because they just hate on Brawl to hate on Brawl. That game had the most amazing soundrack in the entire Smash series. Why the hate !?
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Brawl is my favorite, but I agree that its theme is pretty weak in comparison to Melee. It tried to be edgy and epic which I felt wasn't necessary. Doesn't help it was overused in the game. :V

I do think the Brawl OST overall is the best though, despite some weird choices.
 
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Moonlight said:
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I had plenty of fun with Brawl. Liked a lot of its' music, too. Didn't like the main theme and I've already explained why at length. I think it's a bit defensive to deflect any criticism to some blanket dislike of the game.
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I like both Brawl and Melee to death, but I rarely see positive things about Brawl in forums. I know some people will dislike the theme and all and I respect that, but some will only see it as another "Brawl sucks" arguments to add.
 
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InsuRn said:
Totally agree. Brawl was epic (alternate main theme is even more epic with the voices) and 4 looks awesome. Melee was really good too, 64 good.

When people says that Brawl has the worst theme song I seriously think it is because they just hate on Brawl to hate on Brawl. That game had the most amazing soundrack in the entire Smash series. Why the hate !?
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No one thinks the brawl theme is the worst. It's was all the remixes that make it so tiresome lol
 
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Jintor said:
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Wish i could find more news on how Smash 64 was received. I imagine a sequel was never expected which was why Melee was such a huge shock
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This version could get into smash bros, Woop woop

Moonlight said:
I'm just like... if you can identify that there's like, a difference in tone between this and this, that's sort of what I mean? Brawl's theme just felt... epic and serious and all those things, and Melee felt like something a lot more uplifting and celebratory. To take things into extremes, it'd be like if you set Kirby to a black metal soundtrack. Just didn't feel appropriate to the premise they were going for.
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Different musical values, I think something fits and you don't. Its fine opinions, it makes the world go around. I'm not going to accuse you of hating brawl for hating brawls sake, also I have weird... I dunno tastes when it comes to music and video games.
 
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Village

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Metal sonic's theme goes with everything.

Unless you don't know where the meme came from in the first place, then search Whoop Whoop on youtube.
 
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Village said:
I hope sakura stashed some money away so we can get an animu OVA of smash.
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Man, I would be so down with this. Just make it super cheesy/funny and call it Super Smash Shorts or something.

On a somewhat related note, I kind of hope there are unique cutscenes for beating single player mode with individual characters, like in Tekken and other fighting games. I always found the videos at the end of Smash's classic mode, etc. to be anticlimactic.
 
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Ahnez

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Well, Brawl main theme was composed by Uematsu, his latin themes are always pretty.. dark and serious..

Brawl theme is still less serious than One Winged Angel or Liberi Fatali, it actually fits the intro (that is SSE after all :p )

Melodies of Life is still GOAT
 
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