Mainline Pokemon did not stop being fun even with me as an adult now, what do you mean they doesn't give a fuck about their fans?
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Does a 3D Pokemon adventure have a chance of gracing my Wii U?
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Mainline Pokemon did not stop being fun even with me as an adult now, what do you mean they doesn't give a fuck about their fans?
Boss Doggie
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Aβydoς;122729245 said:
Probably biding time until after Smash is out.
I believe it exists. BELIEVE.
Exterminieren
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They became what they are because they offered a product that a large amount of people want to buy. They continue to do that.
Have you considered feeling grateful to them for providing you with a series you've enjoyed? If not, you can't really demand it the other way round.
Theognosis
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Yes, because in 2-3 years, Nintendo will release a handheld version of the Wii U. This system will run 100% of Wii U e-shop titles and Wii U discs (using an external drive).
Boss Doggie
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BumblebeeCody
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Agree with you on this. Nintendo have made the Pocket Monster games open to people of all ages and genders. Even as an adult(strange to think about it now) I've never felt left of the Pokemon games and have continued to support each one. The casuals (regardless of age) get to play however they want and Game Freak/Nintendo still retain the indepth core mechanics of competitive battling for the "hardcore".
Glass Rebel
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Pokkén? I doubt it. Since X&Y the Stadium subseries has lost its primary appeal, seeing pokés fight in 3D, at leat in Nintendo's/GF's eyes, I'd imagine. Then again, they aren't strangers to redundant software.
Oh God, do it, do it, do it!
Maintenance
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No, it won't happen. Shemnue 3 has a bigger chance to happen than a Wii U 3D Pokemon RPG.
Pokemon have so much more potential and it's being wasted on child-oriented adventures.
With cheese and unnatural dialogues/characters based on idyllic friendship, not matture plots and this kind of things. I'm happy for you if you still can enjoy them. But not my case.
Well I bough their games. Do you want me to construct an statue or something?
Yes, they continue to do that, but if they sell that is thanks to nostalgia. If Pokemon were not this old, they wouldnt sell as they do, not even close.
Totally. but I'm not whining about generations now.
It has.
Alone, the Mystery Dungeon games (4 batches of games - Dungeon Red/Blue on GBA & DS respectively, Time/Darkness/Sky on DS (Sky was an enhanced version), Blazing, Stormy & Lightning on WiiWare and Gates to Infinity on 3DS) have sold around 12 million units, but each iteration has sold less. The Pokémon Ranger series also has sold around 7 million units (3 on 3DS)
Spin-off games don't tend to do well, sure, but they don't do badly by any sense of the word.
Are you actually serious? That is all kinds of wrong.
it is impossible for it to be a better version. There is nothing a home console can provide over handhelds these days, except more grunt-power, which is next to useless for a turn-based RPG, while it loses a huge part of the franchise.
Nintendo should team up with Level 5 and make a full scale pokemon RPG on WIIU.
I'd buy it.
Why is extra grunt useless to a turn based RPG ?
Handheld RPGs aren't anywhere as immersive as console versions at least IMO.
I'd buy it.
Why is extra grunt useless to a turn based RPG ?
Handheld RPGs aren't anywhere as immersive as console versions at least IMO.
Because all it provides is flash, nothing integral to the game. It is not worth the trade-off of the main aspect of why Pokémon is popular.
This seems to be the mindset for a lot of people, also the basis of "why no Pokemon on consoles" argument. Somehow console is seen as inherently better than handheld, therefore a same game is better on consoles. Maybe because I own handhelds since Game Boy but I never see it that way.
And thats why you make it on both platforms, the WiiU version would have better graphics etc.
You could have cross play between the two versions it could be awesome.
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They could do a full scale Yokai Watch game for the Wii U. Sell some limited badges along with it and it will guaranteed sell at least 500 thousand units.
Didn't understand that too, a Pokemon RPG that looked like Pokkén, without the ridiculous framerate issues that X / Y had would be infinitely superior to me, mobility be damned.
Indeed. I can see no reason why Pokémon would be better on a home console other than "More power!!!". In the past, sure, better online, but X & Y proved that can be done on a handheld
Significantly increased budget for a game that'd sell horrifically less. It's a horrible business idea. Pokémon is DESIGNED to be portable. That's the whole essence of it. That is why it won't move from handhelds, and Game Freak have been very insistent on that point, so the argument is moot.
Significantly increased budget for a game that'd sell horrifically less. It's a horrible business idea. Pokémon is DESIGNED to be portable. That's the whole essence of it. That is why it won't move from handhelds, and Game Freak have been very insistent on that point, so the argument is moot.
There is a bunch, lets not pretend otherwise. But its not needed for Pokemon to function.
Do tell. I am intrigued. I, as a gamer for 26 years, and one of the biggest Pokémon fans in the world cannot see it.
Chuck Norris
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I have never played it like this
Diprosalic
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There's no advantage for doing this for GF. 3DS sells more copies and is by far cheaper to produce also they're big on the trading idea with people you meet in all sorts of places.
Would be nice too, but would we ever see it in the west
?No need to be so defensive, we all know it will never happen ... party pooper or what !
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Would be nice too, but would we ever see it in the west
Probably not.
ForsakenLotus
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I still don't get the whole Pokemon MMO thing. But that's not what you are specifically asking about.
Imagine if they had a Pokemon game with the art style of Ni no Kuni. They could even have some light Zelda/Adventure game elements to it if they wanted to expand on HM's or standalone puzzle elements. It would be a big undertaking, but it could be a masterpiece with a decent story and characters (admittedly lacking in Pokemon games).
Imagine if they had a Pokemon game with the art style of Ni no Kuni. They could even have some light Zelda/Adventure game elements to it if they wanted to expand on HM's or standalone puzzle elements. It would be a big undertaking, but it could be a masterpiece with a decent story and characters (admittedly lacking in Pokemon games).
More than 5 FPS when its zooms in during battles.
Before I continue, when I responded To the term Grunt Power I assumed you meant how much shit you can have going on the screen. If that means something else, tell me before I continue, if not .. Then I will just continue.
Just power in general. All "improvements" would be superficial at best.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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They can surely make a new genre of pokemon games. More anime like with adventures and stuff. Take all the levels and shit out.
That would be a spin-off and they do lots of spin-offs.
someguyinahat
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I think people just want the opportunity to use racial and homophobic threats against other players in real time.
Seriously, though, the only upside I can see to a pokemon mmo is the ability to curb hacked and duped pokemon. Theoretically.
Rising_Hei
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Nintendo never had the guts to make a full fledge pokemon @ home console.
That requires high budget and production values that nintendo isn't accostumed to. (If it's a proper one with graphics as good as Ni No Kuni)
That requires high budget and production values that nintendo isn't accostumed to. (If it's a proper one with graphics as good as Ni No Kuni)
A lot of typical Nintendo mindset here. Like if playing safe without taking any risks were the only way to go.
Everyone would shit themselves if a good 3D Pokemon adventure came to consoles.
Pokemon is not a success because you can bring your handheld anywhere, it's because the combat is fun, and catch'em all a challenge, and the overall gameplay is addictive.
The portability was always a plus, but not the core.
'Pokemon is for handhelds' is just a bad argument.
You can have all of this in console, but better in every aspect. You could still interchange pokemon with friends and battle online, have coop adventures, everything in a 100x immersive maps.
There's absolutely no logical reason to not want a console Pokemon if you are a Pokemon fan.
Everyone would shit themselves if a good 3D Pokemon adventure came to consoles.
Pokemon is not a success because you can bring your handheld anywhere, it's because the combat is fun, and catch'em all a challenge, and the overall gameplay is addictive.
The portability was always a plus, but not the core.
'Pokemon is for handhelds' is just a bad argument.
You can have all of this in console, but better in every aspect. You could still interchange pokemon with friends and battle online, have coop adventures, everything in a 100x immersive maps.
There's absolutely no logical reason to not want a console Pokemon if you are a Pokemon fan.
Glass Rebel
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Ni No Kuni is so much like something someone would come up if they were going to make a console Pokémon that it makes me wonder if they pitched the idea to Nintendo first before they teamed up with Ghibli.
They already recreated all animal villagers for Animal Crossing Plaza. I'm 99% sure that it's coming eventually.
They already recreated all animal villagers for Animal Crossing Plaza. I'm 99% sure that it's coming eventually.
It isn't Nintendo's decision, and that's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. Zelda not fantastic production values/high budget? Or Mario? Or Mario Kart? Please.
It isn't a bad argument, it's a true argument. It's a fact that the game was developed with the portability in mind. Being on a home console also doesn't make everything better.
As said before, I am a huge Pokémon fan and I can see that this would be bad for the franchise. Pokémon is developed as a handheld title. Fact. The games would have no benefit for being on home consoles over handheld. Fact.
Boss Doggie
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That's what spinoffs are for.
You could tell the people who are clamoring for "characters" never playing the dungeon games, a.k.a. Pokemon Feels.
Hahahahahaha
Perhaps. Nintendo are trying things, so we might at least see a colosseum type game if they force it out of the pokemon company.
I honestly am not convinced that Monolith in their current state would be the right team for it, also this would be a very ambitious project. So even if it started development today it's pretty much guaranteed to miss Wii U.
They can't force it. They don't have that sort of control over Pokémon games.
What does being on handheld/portable bring to the table that being on home console doesn't, besides the portable aspect.
As others have mentioned you can still catch and trade pokemon in a console version and as I mentioned if Nintendo were smart they could release the game over both WiiU and 3DS to sync up so you could have the best of both worlds.
I hate to say it but you're building a fine strawman there.
So you remove the main argument and ask me to think of more, just because you don't like it?
Portability is a massive part of Pokémon. It's a massive part of why it's a success. It's a massive part of why it continues to be a success. If they remove it, they just destroy what it is to be Pokémon.
They can have all the features that are on Home Console on the 3DS in addition to the portability. There is no logical reason to bring it onto the home console.
Cjdamon042
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I personally would love to see a full adventure Pokémon game on home consoles again. It doesn't have to replace the handheld series or anything like that, nor would I want it to, but I think the Wii U deserves a full size Pokémon title. It doesn't have to follow the same collect 8 badges structure but at the same time I wouldn't want it to be the same as Colosseum/XD.
When I picture a Pokémon game on Wii U I picture a fully 3D semi open world with lush environments that the player can explore. Pokémon would be found in their natural habitat and players could interact with them. NPCs could be found performing chores and travelling the land by day and returning to their homes at night. The game would focus more on story and character development as well as heavily on Pokémon/human relationships and how they interact with each other. The player could use their Wii U GamePad to sketch Pokémon in the wild or use the gyro controls to take photos. These could be uploaded to Miiverse.
Sure you could potentially achieve the same thing on the 3DS, but being on the Wii U would allow the environments to be bigger, for more things to be onscreen at once, to get up and close with Pokémon more than you could on the small screen. To me, a separate Wii U game could be something that I'd immerse myself in, explore the world and discover the different personalities of Pokémon and how they live in the world. It would be less about trading and battling with friends and more about the world itself.
When I picture a Pokémon game on Wii U I picture a fully 3D semi open world with lush environments that the player can explore. Pokémon would be found in their natural habitat and players could interact with them. NPCs could be found performing chores and travelling the land by day and returning to their homes at night. The game would focus more on story and character development as well as heavily on Pokémon/human relationships and how they interact with each other. The player could use their Wii U GamePad to sketch Pokémon in the wild or use the gyro controls to take photos. These could be uploaded to Miiverse.
Sure you could potentially achieve the same thing on the 3DS, but being on the Wii U would allow the environments to be bigger, for more things to be onscreen at once, to get up and close with Pokémon more than you could on the small screen. To me, a separate Wii U game could be something that I'd immerse myself in, explore the world and discover the different personalities of Pokémon and how they live in the world. It would be less about trading and battling with friends and more about the world itself.