Marauder Shields
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WoW still a beast it seems.
Mop was the real killer here I can see it having the most subscription losses.
Give people whatever they want, buff everything and homogenize all classed did not really work well evidently. Even the raids were boring and generic compared to previous expansions. They were basically aoe your way to boss.
Only after 5.2 the game began shaping up but only because of tot contents and raid, raiding became fun again but that was too little too late.
That being said I have to admit wod looks really promising. Blizzard actually has a good to end up with less losses this time.
Regardless, wow has aged and had a good run. They should promote project titan by next year and maintain smooth user base transfer. And please no consoles. Do not ruin our experience.
Well, they could have tried another annual pass to stop massive sub loss. Wonder why they didn't do one this year.
Every year people ask for Vanilla servers and every year Blizz says it will never happen.
It needs to happen
Has any MMO reverted to an earlier version?
Cataclysm and the changes to WoW thereafter really hurt the game.
People who say they want Vanilla servers just forget how bad a LOT of things were. The game has never been in a better state than it is now. It's just 10 years old, and that brings natural burnout.
Well.. If they went f2p.. they would add me as a player!
Its nearly 2015. No one has time for sub fees for MMO's!
People seriously need to remember how things truly were. First mount at level 40, overpriced epic ground mount, painfully slow normal flying mounts (when epic flying mounts were unattainable for majority of the playerbase). Both dropping mount levels and increasing speed of normal flying mounts were great.
I don't think a vanilla server, if it's even possible, is worth Blizzard's time or money. I feel most people would try it with good intentions then quickly abandon it when they realize that a lot of the advancements in mechanics and quality of life, etc, over the first two expansions are/were good for the game.
Now, TBC or WotLK era servers? Go for it.
Regardless, wow has aged and had a good run. They should promote project titan by next year and maintain smooth user base transfer. And please no consoles. Do not ruin our experience.
Well yeah. Why play World of Warcraft when Guild Wars 2 updates every two weeks? Why play when Final Fantasy XIV basically has a miniature expansion ever three months with a quality of life patch in between? They didn't have much in the way of competitors before. Lots of them crashed and burned under their own efforts (Age of Conan anyone?) Not so much now..
Another issue is the problem of the servers being underpopulated. Sure 6.8 million is still a pretty big number, but it's not quite that big a number when you take into account how many servers they have. I know I left my own server because it was basically dead, and not even their fancy idea of a server merge saved it.
how about adding content that is more than gear resets in disguise?Maybe they should stop talking about how they need to stop having giant year-long content gaps, and then doing it anyways.
how about adding content that is more than gear resets in disguise?
the fact you lose you ability to ride flying mounts with the introduction of each new expansion and the comminuty's eagerness to accept such a blantant removal of earned content, caused me to lose all faith in both the game and the people who play it.
oh...
and the pets
pets before player housing...
pets before in-world player permanence...
wtf?!
blizzard might as well have sent me a note saying "thank you but this game isn't meant for you"
how about adding content that is more than gear resets in disguise?
the fact you lose you ability to ride flying mounts with the introduction of each new expansion and the comminuty's eagerness to accept such a blantant removal of earned content, caused me to lose all faith in both the game and the people who play it.
how about adding content that is more than gear resets in disguise?
the fact you lose you ability to ride flying mounts with the introduction of each new expansion and the comminuty's eagerness to accept such a blantant removal of earned content, caused me to lose all faith in both the game and the people who play it.
oh...
and the pets
pets before player housing...
pets before in-world player permanence...
wtf?!
blizzard might as well have sent me a note saying "thank you but this game isn't meant for you"
The pet update was awesome. I'd much rather have a Pokemon-esque thing to do in my free time then sit around in a house waiting for a queue to pop.
Hang on. You didn't like Cataclysm because it had daily grinds but liked MoP? Are you sure you aren't getting them mixed up?
I didn't have to do a single daily quest or rep grind in Cataclysm outside of the initial gearing for tier 11 content. None of the daily rep grinds aside from some shoulder enchants really offered anything that was worth going for once you reached that point, and those were easily done with tabards while you geared up in 5 man dungeons. MoP on the other hand required multiple hours of grinding dailies per day, tabard rep gains were removed and the overall reputation gains were slow and tedious, and some were gated behind other rep grinds. Also that dumb farm management bullshit.
I loved Cataclysm, it allowed me to play the game casually (9 hour raid week plus maybe an hour per week for prep) without losing out on anything. MoP required farming and grinding almost akin to TBC, or maybe worse. MoP fucking sucks. It was what made me finally decide to unsub the game and never go back after playing since release.
how about adding content that is more than gear resets in disguise?
the fact you lose you ability to ride flying mounts with the introduction of each new expansion and the comminuty's eagerness to accept such a blantant removal of earned content, caused me to lose all faith in both the game and the people who play it.
oh...
and the pets
pets before player housing...
pets before in-world player permanence...
wtf?!
blizzard might as well have sent me a note saying "thank you but this game isn't meant for you"
It's embarrassing really how much customization Wildstar has on WoW. There's really no excuse.
i honestly don't mind the pets.The pet update was awesome. I'd much rather have a Pokemon-esque thing to do in my free time then sit around in a house waiting for a queue to pop.
there's got to be a way to add content w/o taking old content away and/or making it completely obsoleteContent essentially becomes trashed each time a new expansion is released, and in many respects every time a content patch is released. It's a blatant cycle of making content obsolete. At the same time, the game is starving with people being bored out of their mind with the same raid for months.
there's got to be a way to add content w/o taking old content away and/or making it completely obsolete
my account was hacked and then used to 'bot resourcesI always want to jump back in but my account was banned for something shortly after I quit the game. Guess I was hacked and I don't feel like jumping though the ropes to get my account back.
When a number declines it goes "down". The amount does not matter, be it 3.2 billion to 2.9 billion or 9 to 6 people
They're still making over $100 million every single month from subscriptions alone. Jesus lawd.
Oh yeah, they are fixing that for Warlords of Draenor
And it will keep on losing. Competition is picking up somewhat. 2015 will be a realgamebreaker for this game and its subs.
Oh fuck me. I forgot all about the Brawler's Guild! Was gear normalized in there a la CMs?
And what kind of rewards can be attained for doing well there?
Maybe all of them combined.
After giving people a year with 0 content except for cash shop mounts they deserve less.
The sub loss has nothing to do with the lolcompetition and everything to do with the game and blizzard themselves.
They keep making the same mistakes. Nobody wants to do SOO for a year just like they didn't want to do Dragon Soul for a year but this time Blizzard hasn't conned people into an annual pass.
Content essentially becomes trashed each time a new expansion is released, and in many respects every time a content patch is released. It's a blatant cycle of making content obsolete. At the same time, the game is starving with people being bored out of their mind with the same raid for months.
It's a bad structure that worked in TBC and Wotlk, because progression was significantly slower and strictly sequential (you couldn't go from Karazhan to Black Temple, period). When they accelerated progression starting from the end of Wotlk, the whole thing fell apart. Raid is released, consumed, and thrown away in a matter of weeks at best.
EDIT: As for the pets, the feature speaks for itself: There's nothing meaningful to do in the game apart from chewing dungeons and raids.
Whoever said the RPG elements are gone really hit the nail on the head. I have three melee classes and I remember doing the class quest for my new stance and weapon in vanilla. I remember the quest required to get my paladin mount. My wife was crazy about the warlock quest for her dread steed. Blizzard took all that stuff away, and I think the game has been far worse off for it since. I like the streamline they've done for a lot of things and the quality of life changes have been great, but there's very little that makes my paladin feel different from my warrior except that some of the icons are different.
Idk if I would consider it a Con personally, it was great value for those that still played. Had it been any other WoW xpac I probably would have gotten it too but Cata was definately my worst experience in WoW, but yes this probably is why the numbers had stayed at least a little higher from last year.
Whoever said the RPG elements are gone really hit the nail on the head. I have three melee classes and I remember doing the class quest for my new stance and weapon in vanilla. I remember the quest required to get my paladin mount. My wife was crazy about the warlock quest for her dread steed. Blizzard took all that stuff away, and I think the game has been far worse off for it since. I like the streamline they've done for a lot of things and the quality of life changes have been great, but there's very little that makes my paladin feel different from my warrior except that some of the icons are different.
Are they doing anything for the 10 year anniversary?
They haven't officially said anything, but I'm sure there's going to be some big in-game event for it.
Cool, will definitely have to re-up for some thing like that. Hopefully it's not like every expansion where it's SERVER FULL 234th in QUE! type stuff.