I've been struggling hard to make an aggressive Warrior deck work in this meta. Colma's tempo deck is faster than the typical Control, but I'm sure there's got to be a way to make an even faster version work. I've just got to get the alchemy right.
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I've been struggling hard to make an aggressive Warrior deck work in this meta. Colma's tempo deck is faster than the typical Control, but I'm sure there's got to be a way to make an even faster version work. I've just got to get the alchemy right.
huntard bro, never forget
ShinNL
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I actually don't feel the need to make a tempo deck. I'm literally removing all threats while ending up with a surplus of health, more cards and eventually the only one with a board. My deck runs most of the usual legendaries, but a crazy amount of removal. Pyro, cleave, slam, bloodmage, whirlwind, death bite.
What puts everything together is probably Spectral Knight. I love that card.
MisterArrogant
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Wow, so apparently if you transform into Jaraxxus you can be auto-killed by sacrificial pact. That's definitely a new one to me.
I don't know if I feel that's quite fair.
I don't know if I feel that's quite fair.
Yeah it's silly. Pact doesn't distinguish between minions and heroes.
Hey Yoshichan, have you played LoL or DOTA? I thought it was impossible to get really mad at Hearthstone (no trash talk in chat, no team mates to blame you for loss, no stupid team mates to ruin your game, you can ignore the losses with "meh this is RNG anyway") but I had to stop playing LoL because it made incredibly angry.
In case you haven't played them, I'd advise to stay away from all MOBA games for your mental health.
Hearthstone regularly puts me on tilt which never happens in Dotes, RNG makes me saltier than anything else. But yeah Yoshi would probably die
Outta here with that rito propaganda
you secretly love rng, admit it
Aquavelvaman
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Thank you based trump for giving me a deck to use this in
Mobius and pet octopus
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I've gotten value out of grommash every time I've played him. Deathbiter is how you activate him. Other times I've used him just for the 4 damage and he is quite difficult to remove seeing as he has 10 hp.
For a first version of the deck I was happy with the results. If you're playing for card advantage, you're playing it wrong. It isn't a deck that plays for card value. And getting into lethal range is actually a good thing. In fact, one of the times I lost was because I armored up 3 times when I should not have. If I didn't armor up I would have mortal striked for lethal.
It probably needs some revisions still, and I already made a few, but I'm actually surprised at the results so far... even though I am not a big fan of aggro warrior tbh.
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One time I was against a priest who dropped a deathlord. I had deathbiter equipped and a few minions on board but I was 2 short of lethal. But when I used black knight, it summoned a leper gnome, and it just so happened that deathbiter's deathrattle aoe was enough to trigger leper gnome and win the match... lol.
Minsc
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It's not on repeat, I follow every post in this thread, and MtG vs Hearthstone is discussed no where near as close to Zoolock or most other repeating discussions, I can't even remember the last time Hearthstone's potential drawbacks were discussed in comparison to other TCGs before just recently.
It was brought up because the discussion of why one could see Hearthstone as "shallow" was asked, and it is a valid reason (or at least I haven't seen any one successfully argue the opposite). Of course the trouble is shallow is a bit subjective, and dependent on what you're comparing it to (Hearthstone vs War doesn't look so bad for Hearthstone), but assuming you're comparing it to some highly complex card or board game, that's where those arguments come from.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Weird, for the first time ever (at least in memory) matchmaking isn't pairing me and is just going on endlessly.
Minsc
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Tuesday, aka 8 hour maintenance day.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Usually it doesn't start so early, plus I was in game just not able to find a match.
RIP couch.
call_kotaku
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Midrange hunter just feels unstoppable and incredibly effective, til you get those games where by turn 5 all you have in your hand are both your kill commands, both your hunter's marks, a houndmaster, and an owl.
I didn't realize how much hunter needs card draw til I started playing the class, and webspinner is certainly very helpful in that regard. If both my buzzards are buried near the bottom of my deck I'm going to have a very hard time.
I didn't realize how much hunter needs card draw til I started playing the class, and webspinner is certainly very helpful in that regard. If both my buzzards are buried near the bottom of my deck I'm going to have a very hard time.
I'd love to hear this story.
Got a new record for arena and finally earned four wins and not my usual one win using a Paladin.
I went from 14 to 19 in a matter of a few plays - all but one game against Hunters with the freaking same deck. Every single one of them had no problems playing their combos. It's starting to really piss me off..
I think a 1/2 makes more sense than a 2/1. Part of the problem is that he trades too well with other 2 drops at 2/2.
Alternatively, make him a 3 drop.
I still think the overall problem is Flare, not Mad Scientist. MS is crazy good, yes, but if all classes had access to Flare this really wouldn't be an issue. The meta would then self-correct as it does when everybody runs either BGH, Black Knight, or Harrison. Giving the class with arguably the most powerful secrets (in combo with Bow) the only ability to remove them is complete bullshit.
That's exactly what I told a friend today.
He stabbed his couch at one point. Though I think it was due to SC2... either way, I'm not going to let him live it down :lol
Acidote
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RIP couch? RIP finger.
RumblingRosco
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This is just too good to be true.
For Yoshi's rage antics, start here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=786387&page=338
That's where google got me.
Oh and Yoshi, I still <3 you, but you crazy man
That's where google got me.
Oh and Yoshi, I still <3 you, but you crazy man
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
That list is old as shit! I could easily add up at least $2000 worth of stuff since I originally posted that!For Yoshi's rage antics, start here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=786387&page=338
That's where google got me.
Oh and Yoshi, I still <3 you, but you crazy man
Anyway, can't get home to play the final wing of Naxx
what an awesome ride it's been.Freakinchair
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In my *super secret* hunter deck I don't use bow and I went from Rank 7->Rank 4 in an hour and a half.
That list is old as shit! I could easily add up at least $2000 worth of stuff since I originally posted that!
Anyway, can't get home to play the final wing of Naxx
Refresh my memory please, what did the couch in? Starcraft, Dark Souls or Diablo?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
DkS1, pre-launch
More cards like flare are desperately needed. I struggle to comprehend them adding so many naxx cards that compliment secret play but then have just the one class card to counter secrets. I'm not switching from hunter whilst secret mage is a thing, these games would be unbearable otherwise.
I had good success against the new hunter with warrior after I added a bunch of taunts. Now running 2 ghouls, 2 belchers, and 2 sunwalkers (repacing sylvanas/cairne which are terrible against hunter anyway)
Now that hunters are often cutting all their mid game (snapjaws, rhinos, kodos) it is much easier to hold removal for the highmanes. The other problem was the freezing traps which fuck warrior over hard and the mad scientist gets them into play more reliably. But belchers/sunwalkers give you good creates to play that you can afford to never attack with.
I also play barongeddon which serves well as unleash/highmane cleanup
edit: I hadn't considered tinkmaster... that could be fun to try again in warrior. I think I dusted him though D:
Now that hunters are often cutting all their mid game (snapjaws, rhinos, kodos) it is much easier to hold removal for the highmanes. The other problem was the freezing traps which fuck warrior over hard and the mad scientist gets them into play more reliably. But belchers/sunwalkers give you good creates to play that you can afford to never attack with.
I also play barongeddon which serves well as unleash/highmane cleanup
edit: I hadn't considered tinkmaster... that could be fun to try again in warrior. I think I dusted him though D:
Minsc
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Never really thought about it, but those ghouls are pretty much hard counters to using UTH for anything other than card draw... interesting.
Secrets are such an afterthought in general. How were they smart enough to put in three neutral tech options against weapons but only one against secrets, and on top of that make it exclusive to the class who's got the best secret kit in the first place? Boggles the mind. Any new secret synergy card they print will make things even worse, might as well go ahead and make Echoing Ooze a beast.
Pre-launch? Yowch.
While we're on this subject... I suggest you look to Trump for guidance. I'm watching a video where he just got druid combo'd in Arena and all he says is "oh... WHAT ... whatever, these things happen sometimes, it's pretty unlikely" *next game*
I really like his attitude.
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