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IGN: EA says "no one's getting access [to Sims 4] ahead of release" for reviews
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guitarhero
Member
What could the competition offer that would make regular Sims fans go "hmm, maybe I'll buy THAT other game this time"? I mean, apart from having things previous Sims had and The Sims 4 doesn't...
SlipperyFishes
Banned
Maybe it won't work without online functionality and they've learned their lesson from Sim City (town). Review environments mean nothing in RL.
LeeRoyBrown
Banned
I can't get over how fake that racoon or whatever it is looks.
No early reviews, OH NO SUB 8 SCORE
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Sims 4 has no MOVEOBJECTS_ON, that should be a negative for all builders.
Sims 3 had more vanilla content than vanilla Sims 2 actually. I don't recall it having missing features that were considered expansions in Sims 2 (hell, it even had features that were expansions in 2, something 2 didn't do for its base).
Sims 3 had more vanilla content than vanilla Sims 2 actually. I don't recall it having missing features that were considered expansions in Sims 2 (hell, it even had features that were expansions in 2, something 2 didn't do for its base).
spindoctor
Member
Well I'm expecting reviews to carry the tone of 'yea there are some things missing but the game is still really good 8/10'. And EA probably knows that this is one of their franchises that is most immune to reviews or forum criticism from a sales point of view, so they don't much care beyond that.
Pancakes R Us
Member
Exactly. Anyone that knows about this and still buys the game day 1 to find it a bug ridden piece of shit lacking content deserves it, IMO. Not that EA should put out a game like this, but we all know it happens.
Same as SimCity, i agree i just dont trust gaming media with EA games (or at all).
Black Mantis
Member
I was looking at buying this day one, but all the negative news about it, has made me decide to wait and see for at least a week after launch.
Orniletter
Banned
....what about... I dunno... 1&2 and fanpatched 3 ?
Well, to be fair, a "bug ridden experience" is par for the course with The Sims. It's like they got bored with corrupting save files after making sure all save files would eventually self-destruct in Sims 2, so they decided to go for style points.
In The Sims 3 they made it so your save file could be permanently infected by zombies with The Sims 3 Supernatural. That's dedication to the fine art of save game corrupting bugs, you know. And no, I'm not making that one up. If you play The Sims 3 Supernatural... patch your game ASAP.
Funny enough, this is not the strangest bug in the series. That's Sims 1 where the vampire template can be added to a game system file, cause the game to crash hard and require a reinstallation. This action happens autonomously in the game if two specific NPCs ever turn up on the same lot.
So when it comes to horrible bugs, I can only say one thing: Bring it on! And no cop-out with a day 1 patch, I want to see the glory that is a v1.00 The Sims game in action again. Horrible bugs are almost a feature of the series at this point.
If this 'works' with the Sims then what are the odds they start doing this with titles like Hardline, Battlefield, sports games etc... ???
Gaming media can always choose to not cover these games. Getting early access ahead of the public was part of the value media companies got in exchange for spending time on a product. Now that it's gone...
Gaming media can always choose to not cover these games. Getting early access ahead of the public was part of the value media companies got in exchange for spending time on a product. Now that it's gone...
That doesn't bode well.
(Also, I agree with your assessment regarding The Sims 4 sales. The game is just too big to fail out of the gates.)
I mean you no ill, really, but watching you struggle against the inevitable has been fairly entertaining. This must be some kind of Sisyphean punishment for something you've done in your previous life. Good luck, and keep a stiff upper lip.
(Also, I agree with your assessment regarding The Sims 4 sales. The game is just too big to fail out of the gates.)
That's fucking insane. It's like they took the Fable school of design and took the extra EA mile. Every review should link to that!
I meant specifically PC-exclusive\focused franchises because even at EA's 'lowest' they still put out PC exclusives that where worthwhile at the very least. Since C&C 4 it seems they are doing their hardest to tarnish and ruin these ip's (anyone remembers Darkspore?).
Dead Space and DA are MP ip's that are probably more focused on the console skus. Battlefield transformation to MP franchise happened with BC 1&2. The issues 3&4 suffered from effected every version collectively.
Oh, I have a black enough sense of humor to find this all terribly hilarious myself. This was my most anticipated game this year and look at it. Even if the half that's left turns out good, it's still only half the game I expected it to be.
No, in a way, I'm glad I called that OT so much in advance. Someone had to do that, anyway, and to quote another EA games character whose outlook seems to match my own right about now... "Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong." There will be snark, there will be facts. Cold, hard facts. (There will be a sizable list of missing features, for one.) And I'll do it right. Even if the game deserves a "Return to Shit Mountain" style OT about now. Because I'm not going to pull a Maxis and do only half of the expected features.
And no, I will not be singing Gilbert and Sullivan while posting it.
Honestly, I've no idea, and I guess that's been the problem. However, what you said at the end there is proabably what's got people saying that now is any prospective publisher/developers chance. Once people get their hands on TS4 and see how much stuff has gone MIA from the previous games, if someone else were to start waving their new life sim around going "Hey guys, look! It's The Sims, but we have EVERYTHING." they'd have much more of a chance of getting that series on it's feet than they would previous.
Alas, that's never going to happen, at least not now. The Sims will continue being the only option and either thrive undeservingly or slowly die out.
Edit: Holy crap.
I knew teens were the same height as adults, and I kinda figured that'd make them look similar...but never did I expect there would be absolutely NO visible difference. But now I find out that elder's look exactly the same too, only with gray hair? Jesus. I know elders were kind of an ignored life stage, but they at least made the effort to give them a hunch, wrinkles. etc to make them look the part. I can't believe this.
I like the Sims 1-3.
By the way, why the hell are they getting rid of the open world elements from the Sims 3 in the Sims 4? It was the best thing it had to offer to the franchise!
Oh yeah, because EA.
Yes, the tears must be unsullied!
FlyingSaucer
Banned
Any word on what happened during development that explain all the missing/dumbed down features ?
They aren't features, they are bugs. Bugs gotta be removed.
secondspace
Member
Backfired with the last MoH, but I suppose it's a different audience. Doesn't inspire confidence in the game at all.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Erm yes. Just because they seem casual doesn't mean they're bad.
EA happened.
They know they can charge more for basic features.
Green Yoshi
Member
That's the reason for it:
http://ts4news.com/post/94541924952/89-features-missing-from-the-sims-4
I never played The Sims (but my brother), but "no pools"? Come on, even I knew about the pools (and the ladders ;-) ).
http://ts4news.com/post/94541924952/89-features-missing-from-the-sims-4
I never played The Sims (but my brother), but "no pools"? Come on, even I knew about the pools (and the ladders ;-) ).
All the ones I've played are pretty good.
...who buys EA or Bethesda games on the first day?
Exactly.
It should be the golden rule with these two.
"Performance" for half of it. Honestly sounds like they are targeting a lower spec system than Sims 3.
Baron_Calamity
Member
I preordered Sims 4. Over a year ago I preordered it. The digital deluxe version. I'm a huge Sims fan and I'm fairly forgiving to EA. This is my origin from 8 months ago. (I've added a bunch of popcap stuff via humble bundle but thats all thats missing)
This may end up being my last EA game if its screwed up as bad as it seems.
This may end up being my last EA game if its screwed up as bad as it seems.
Baron_Calamity
Member
That was one of their stated goals. The funny part is it doesn't sound like they succeeded.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Pathetic
I preordered Sims 4. Over a year ago I preordered it. The digital deluxe version. I'm a huge Sims fan and I'm fairly forgiving to EA. This is my origin from 8 months ago. (I've added a bunch of popcap stuff via humble bundle but thats all thats missing)
This may end up being my last EA game if its screwed up as bad as it seems.
Wait, how'd you get the Sims 1 complete collection and Alpha Centauri on that list?
lemon_fresh
Banned
Baron_Calamity
Member
Custom icons. Sims 1 complete I have on disc though the disc check was patch out and Alpha Centauri I got from GoG.
LOL out loud.
Sadly this is the kind of IP that will sell well regardless of how bad it is. Regardless of how many features are missing or are sectioned off. I'm not one to ever wish something fails. But I also see the danger when a series becomes so big and the fan base becomes so loyal, that publishers can take advantage of the situation and push greedy practices without a fear of backlash.
After all was said and done none of the uproar or bad press over Sim City stopped it from selling like clockwork. And the Sims has a diehard fan base that live for the series (just go check tumblr). This series is ripe for the picking. And EA loves it.
After all was said and done none of the uproar or bad press over Sim City stopped it from selling like clockwork. And the Sims has a diehard fan base that live for the series (just go check tumblr). This series is ripe for the picking. And EA loves it.
mysteriousmage09
Member
First time actually seeing a picture of this. Jesus this is lazy.
someguyinahat
Member
Also just like the movie industry, it's rare when a movie does not have an advance press screening. Movies that do this know they're bad and hope that moviegoers won't care about reviews. I remember one newspaper "reviewed" a movie that had no press screening by providing a list of all previous not-screened movies that eventually got reviewed. Every single one, 1 star.
The Sims' audience won't care about reviews either. It WILL sell like hotcakes. Guaranteed.
Nothing against casual games only I've tried the sims a couple of times since the start, they all seem clunky, awkward and a bit dull without much "game" going on.
ClaptoVaughn
Member
I preordered Sims 4. Over a year ago I preordered it. The digital deluxe version. I'm a huge Sims fan and I'm fairly forgiving to EA. This is my origin from 8 months ago. (I've added a bunch of popcap stuff via humble bundle but thats all thats missing)
This may end up being my last EA game if its screwed up as bad as it seems.
"Fairly forgiving" is an understatement, going by that list.
Yeah, you're going to take to Sims 4 just fine.
Do people not realize that RIP stands for "rest in peace"? You're literally saying rest in peace in peace.
Pretty sure it's a GAF inside joke
OT: Just like SimCity, the creation tools in this game actually seem really great but everything surrounding it looks to be a hot mess. You think they have the apology already written?
I preordered Sims 4. Over a year ago I preordered it. The digital deluxe version. I'm a huge Sims fan and I'm fairly forgiving to EA. This is my origin from 8 months ago. (I've added a bunch of popcap stuff via humble bundle but thats all thats missing)
This may end up being my last EA game if its screwed up as bad as it seems.
You bought the Sims Medieval AND its expansion? Good god.