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So the two combined are $50 more than the original bundle? How enticing. -_-

This is the same price that the original Kinect launched as. We already knew it saves them money to bundle it and thus it was never going to be cheaper for them to have to move units separately. They also had incentive to make it cheaper in the bundle to make the pairing have appeal.

They want you to want the bundle, but if you change your mind, you have to cough up for getting a separate package for a valuable device.

Behold, it's almost as if that's the entire point of the bundle being...you know, a bundle.

Do some of you guys not know how this works?

People don't think about the fact that a bundle saves them money, so when you decide to buy separate when they originally weren't meant to be, you are going to pay for the new costs it takes to make it a standalone device.

 

[GreatMightySymp]

Can you just use a mic for that, Like the PS4?

Technically, I suppose.

I prefer the external approach personally as most of those headsets either are annoying to wear with my glasses (or approaches like the headsets like the Pulse ones). Which was partially why I got the PS Camera for my PS4.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

We have massively different ideas about what supporting a device looks like then. Providing what essentially amounts to "stability updates" isn't the sort of support I want to see for a device that originally came standard with the console.

I would love for it to have tons of games support, and sadly it really doesn't, but I'm totally fine with Kinect on the Xbox One being precisely what it is at this moment, which is a pretty kickass compliment to the overall user experience, be it for gaming purposes or basic entertainment purposes between apps or television. It makes the Xbox One better, and their engineering team month in and month working out ways to improve on the way the device works on this system is to me a very clear sign of how well they are supporting it.

My big concern since they announced the kinectless bundle is that this kind of support for it would diminish. When you refer to them as stability updates, I think it's good that I'm able to say that I actually see and feel what the hell it is they're making more stable.

They've extended Kinect support throughout most of the settings, something I've been dying to see from the get go. Kinect is also looking to receive full support in the new media player app, and it even works with all the files you've named yourself. This is what I refer to as Kinect support. Every step of the way that they are improving other areas of the console, Kinect itself is also getting better. If Microsoft has somehow moved away from and stopped supporting Kinect, their engineering team that works on the OS and interacts with gamers every month hasn't gotten that message yet.

Once upon time, the only TV related Kinect command that it seemed the xbox one responded to while in a game was "Xbox Watch TV" Now while in a game you can actually say a specific channel name and it will respond and go to that channel directly from the game. Other people may not like or appreciate that stuff, but it's a very cool part of the system.

 

[Yudoken]

General advice as a was-until-recently-a Junior Member; The derogatory use of "M$" is a bannable offense at mod's discretion. We at least try to be civilized folk here.

As for Kinect on PC? ...Eh, I mean, we had this same discussion with the release of the original. Other than a few super-duper-niche uses and fancy college projects it just didn't happen. I equate it to VR-- You can make a list a mile long of neat stuff you'd like to try to do but none of it really works out in execution. VR is growing very slowly and a lot of people think Sony is taking a huge risk with Morpheus. On top of just the concept, the hardware specs on the Kinect 2.0 do not do it any favors as being too slow for a theoretical crisp VR performance.

Didn't know that, I apologise for that.
I'm just so disappointed with MS about this.

 

[BWJinxing]

Voice commands over the mic would be a great cost savings. Thats a feature that should see the light of day. 150$ for "xbon on" is silly.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Voice commands over the mic would be a great cost savings. Thats a feature that should see the light of day. 150$ for "xbon on" is silly.

Yea, the console does significantly more with Kinect than just "xbox on," but I'd be lying if I said I expected any better. It also does cool things like automatically loading up my game save and button configuration in FIFA 14 when I take the controller from someone else.

It's literally the fastest way to load up and switch between games and various apps as well as television viewing. "Xbox record that" is very useful. "Xbox broadcast" is very useful. Being able to in an instant go from watching a Barcelona game to then continuing to play your FIFA 14 career, and then right back to watching TV, also in an instant, when you're finished is a very cool feeling.

 

[statham]

Voice commands over the mic would be a great cost savings. Thats a feature that should see the light of day. 150$ for "xbon on" is silly.

no, the amount of stuff it does with the IR you could never do with a mic and putting on a mic would kill the ease of it.
Before just going to bed I would say Xbox turn off, now I have to turn off my tv, receiver, directv, and xbox all by those nasty power buttons. same as I turn stuff on in the morning instead of ease of xbox on. and it controls all that stuff, directv it'll pull up a mini or full guide, pause, mute, fast forward, rewind, you receiver volume up or down. With my kinect kaplook, I have to have all these remotes handy, my two hands can't deal.

 

[Discusguy]

I'm good with the pricing. It will make people see the value on the bundle which in turn I'm hoping will give kinect more support.

 

[SwiftDeath]

no, the amount of stuff it does with the IR you could never do with a mic and putting on a mic would kill the ease of it.

Why not offer a kinect-lite without the camera as that's clearly going to be the majority of the cost of the thing?

 

[SenjutsuSage]

no, the amount of stuff it does with the IR you could never do with a mic and putting on a mic would kill the ease of it.

Exactly. People keep trying so hard to pretend that a microphone perfectly mimics all that Kinect does and the ease and convenience of using it in the way that we are able to on the Xbox One.

A microphone wouldn't be able to instantly make my nephew's profile the active profile in FIFA 14 once he sits down and picks up the controller. That's Kinect seeing my nephew, noting his presence and the fact that he has the controller in his hand, and then making sure that his button configuration is loaded, his career files with proper game settings are loaded etc. Oh well, it doesn't matter if other people don't get it, but I love Kinect on the xbox one.

 

[Synth]

I would love for it to have tons of games support, and sadly it really doesn't, but I'm totally fine with Kinect on the Xbox One being precisely what it is at this moment, which is a pretty kickass compliment to the overall user experience, be it for gaming purposes or basic entertainment purposes between apps or television. It makes the Xbox One better, and their engineering team month in and month working out ways to improve on the way the device works on this system is to me a very clear sign of how well they are supporting it.

My big concern since they announced the kinectless bundle is that this kind of support for it would diminish. When you refer to them as stability updates, I think it's good that I'm able to say that I actually see and feel what the hell it is they're making more stable.

They've extended Kinect support throughout most of the settings, something I've been dying to see from the get go. Kinect is also looking to receive full support in the new media player app, and it even works with all the files you've named yourself. This is what I refer to as Kinect support. Every step of the way that they are improving other areas of the console, Kinect itself is also getting better. If Microsoft has somehow moved away from and stopped supporting Kinect, their engineering team that works on the OS and interacts with gamers every month hasn't gotten that message yet.

Once upon time, the only TV related Kinect command that it seemed the xbox one responded to while in a game was "Xbox Watch TV" Now while in a game you can actually say a specific channel name and it will respond and go to that channel directly from the game. Other people may not like or appreciate that stuff, but it's a very cool part of the system.

Yea, I'm glad these things are improving... but they're more things I'd be rather annoyed if they ceased working on, rather than things give me a lot of confidence in the device's future. I guess "stability updates" was a bit harsh... as some of these things do actually make the Kinect noticeably better.

Making the device optional rather than just cutting the price and eating some losses was a horrible idea though imo. It was a case of sacrificing a long-term differentiator, for a short-term sales bump (and that bump has been surprisingly small). Now the software required to make it a significant factor later in the console's life (when it would be cheap enough for casuals to start buying in) are unlikely to exist.

Why not offer a kinect-lite without the camera as that's clearly going to be the majority of the cost of the thing?

The last thing we need is a new third-tier being added.

 

[statham]

Why not offer a kinect-lite without the camera as that's clearly going to be the majority of the cost of the thing?

how are you going to play kinect rivals, Xbox fitness, or dance central? no need for another option.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Priced to fail?

 

[Ploid 3.0]

Launch Xbox One. Over priced

Kinectless Xbox One. Still too much, but at least it's not more expensive than PS4 so it has that angle.

Kinect 2 stand alone. Also over priced.

How will Microsoft sell anything if they overprice it all. I have a feeling they are putting this out there just to say they aren't abandoning it.

 

[Forsaken82]

So the two combined are $50 more than the original bundle? How enticing. -_-

Why would they be the same price?

And it seems like many of you forget that the original kinect sold (extremely well) for 149.99 with far less going for it than the current version.

 

[Lucent]

LOL! This gif is awesome. Saved.

And yeah this is dumb. I have had the X1 since launch but I haven't seen anything besides the OS that makes any use out of it.

 

[SwiftDeath]

The last thing we need is a new third-tier being added.

Either kinect is dead as a gaming input or MS has to immediately change how they're handling support for it.

Assuming we can accept kinect is dead for what it is, I don't see the logic in why it would be harmful to add a lower priced option without the camera that did all the voice and remote control functions people tend to value the kinect for. The damn thing retails at $150 standalone. Why in gods name would we the consumers not want say a $30 microphone array with IR blaster that does all kinect does sans the camera? [Skype, motion control, auto-sign in]

In essence if you've accepted what seems to be the obvious fate of the kinect, I don't see why you would want MS to lock those features behind a $100 - $150 peripheral when they don't have to

how are you going to play kinect rivals, Xbox fitness, or dance central? no need for another option.

You don't?

 

[FlashFlooder]

no one is going to pay $150 for this. They've got to be joking

 

[SkoomaSuckinSwit]

Top ebay listing for one right now is $70 - "Buy Now".
Priced to fail, indeed.

 

[Darksol]

It's almost as though they don't give a fuck anymore.

 

[adamantypants]

Do they not remember the PS4 camera being sold out for months at $59? Granted, their camera does way more, but there's obviously a market for this stuff just not at the price they're asking.

 

[ReplacementPelican]

Mine was £20 in CEX, they're only £25 right now.

 

[statham]

Either kinect is dead as a gaming input or MS has to immediately change how they're handling support for it.

Assuming we can accept kinect is dead for what it is, I don't see the logic in why it would be harmful to add a lower priced option without the camera that did all the voice and remote control functions people tend to value the kinect for. The damn thing retails at $150 standalone. Why in gods name would we the consumers not want say a $30 microphone array with IR blaster that does all kinect does sans the camera? [Skype, motion control, auto-sign in]

In essence if you've accepted what seems to be the obvious fate of the kinect, I don't see why you would want MS to lock those features behind a $100 - $150 peripheral when they don't have to



You don't?

then live without the voice and IR, shouldn't be another sku just to save $20-30 bucks.

 

[Synth]

Either kinect is dead as a gaming input or MS has to immediately change how they're handling support for it.

Assuming we can accept kinect is dead for what it is, I don't see the logic in why it would be harmful to add a lower priced option without the camera that did all the voice and remote control functions people tend to value the kinect for. The damn thing retails at $150 standalone. Why in gods name would we the consumers not want say a $30 microphone array with IR blaster that does all kinect does sans the camera? [Skype, motion control, auto-sign in]

In essence if you've accepted what seems to be the obvious fate of the kinect, I don't see why you would want MS to lock those features behind a $100 - $150 peripheral when they don't have to

Because whilst the introduction of a Kinectless SKU has significantly diminished the prospects of the Kinect, it's not like the situation can't be made worse, which is exactly what I see splitting the userbase further would do. I'd say the same if someone suggested selling a similar device for the PS4 alongside its current camera. These aren't PCs and at some point you just need to maintain as common a setup as possible.

I'd rather they simply work on making the Kinect as cheap as possible rather than simply strip stuff from it in order to hit lower price points (as with the Kinectless SKU). Either you want the functionality the Kinect provides or you don't... but I don't think a new configuration for everything needs to be spawned for anyone who wants a subset of a system's capabilities.

They should let you issue voice commands over a headset though.

Anyway, I need to sleep... I gotta stop browsing GAF passed 3am on work nights...

 

[MThanded]

Yet the kinectless Xbox One is only $100 off? Thanks Microsoft

What is your major malfunction?

 

[SwiftDeath]

then live without the voice and IR, shouldn't be another sku just to save $20-30 bucks.

I don't understand? What I'm suggesting would be more akin to the media remote than anything else. A literal peripheral that gets sold for ~$30 to make the product more user-friendly

Sure they could offer a XB1 SKU with the mic/IR array but they don't have to.

And end users would save anywhere from $70 to $120, not $20 to $30. Kinect's pricing is simply way too high for what it is, both bundled and standalone, the market has shown as much.

Because whilst the introduction of a Kinectless SKU has significantly diminished the prospects of the Kinect, it's not like the situation can't be made worse, which is exactly what I see splitting the userbase further would do. I'd say the same if someone suggested selling a similar device for the PS4 alongside its current camera. These aren't PCs and at some point you just need to maintain as common a setup as possible.

I'd rather they simply work on making the Kinect as cheap as possible rather than simply strip stuff from it in order to hit lower price points (as with the Kinectless SKU). Either you want the functionality the Kinect provides or you don't... but I don't think a new configuration for everything needs to be spawn for anyone who wants a subset of a system's capabilities.

They should let you issue voice commands over a headset though.

Anyway, I need to sleep... I gotta stop browsing GAF passed 3am on work nights...

Yes they should allow you to issue voice commands over a headset even though it's probably not too compelling a feature but anyways I'm don't really understand the notion that MS should continue to keep those features solely for Kinect if they are compelling. Clearly consumers do not value those features at a high enough price to be willing to buy kinect or else we wouldn't be seeing what we are.

At the end of the day it comes down to whether you believe kinect as a gaming input is dead in the water, with the kinectless bundle and now 3 new bundles all without kinect to come not to mention the complete lack of games for the damn thing, I don't see how anyone can believe there's much life left in kinect for gaming. Thus if kinect is now in essence a peripheral to control the OS, skype etc. it doesn't matter what it's attach rate is simply because you don't have to try and sell specific software for it. Thus why not offer a cheaper option that does much the same as kinect does for voice control and IR blasting?

I should admit I have a personal bias in this because I'd like to try out some of those features but no way am I paying $100 for it. I have no interest in streaming, skyping, or auto sign in so the camera which makes up the majority cost of the kinect is worthless to me

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Mine was £20 in CEX, they're only £25 right now.

Better stock up.

 

[GuitarAtomik]

I don't understand? What I'm suggesting would be more akin to the media remote than anything else. A literal peripheral that gets sold for ~$30 to make the product more user-friendly

Sure they could offer a XB1 SKU with the mic/IR array but they don't have to.

And end users would save anywhere from $70 to $120, not $20 to $30. Kinect's pricing is simply way too high for what it is, both bundled and standalone, the market has shown as much.

It just doesn't make sense. If all you want is the microphone, you would be better served by just asking for that functionality on the headset. No need for an in-between product that cuts the legs off the full featured version even more.

 

[SwiftDeath]

It just doesn't make sense. If all you want is the microphone, you would be better served by just asking for that functionality on the headset. No need for an in-between product that cuts the legs off the full featured version even more.

Is the kinect dead as a gaming input? If yes then "cutting off the legs of it" doesn't matter because it's simply a peripheral to better the user experience of which install base/attach rate is going to be immensely less important

 

[JesseDeya]

no, the amount of stuff it does with the IR you could never do with a mic and putting on a mic would kill the ease of it.
Before just going to bed I would say Xbox turn off, now I have to turn off my tv, receiver, directv, and xbox all by those nasty power buttons. same as I turn stuff on in the morning instead of ease of xbox on. and it controls all that stuff, directv it'll pull up a mini or full guide, pause, mute, fast forward, rewind, you receiver volume up or down. With my kinect kaplook, I have to have all these remotes handy, my two hands can't deal.

So what happens when you add a single other device to that mix, like an AppleTV, Roku, PS4, WiiU, Xbox360, PS3, Blu-ray player, HTPC?

Kinect voice control insta-fail. It's basically a really limited universal remote, for $150. It can't deal with anything but watching TV (one source only) or playing games. In 2014, that's simply not good enough.

I would literally be unable to use Kinect 2 to control my setup simply because I would have more than an Xbox One and a cable TV box. Using Kinect would get any other universal remote I had out of sync, yet Kinect isn't able to control my other devices (or even configure my receiver to be on the correct input) so I would have to use other remotes with Kinect.

A basic universal remote like the Logitech Harmony 350 is about 4x more utilitarian than Kinect 2.0, and cost $40. It also controls the Xbox One - just saying.

By the way, I use a Logitech Harmony Smart Keyboard which not only lets me control everything in my system (6 devices) but acts as a USB keyboard for both my PS4 and HTPC, and Bluetooth keyboard for my smart TV - all from one device. It also let's me control all those devices from anywhere in the house, via wifi, from my smart phone or tablet.

You might be able to say Xbox Off to turn off your gear before you go to bed, but can you actually do it FROM bed?

 

[br3wnor]

I have a feeling they are putting this out there just to say they aren't abandoning it.

Ding ding ding. That's exactly what they're doing. No non-Microsoft developer is going to waste a second of development time making Kinect features for their game since within a few years, 10-20% of Xbone owners at most will have one. As a result, anyone who REALLY wants a Kinect will give Microsoft a little profit for their troubles. If they had any intention of selling these in bundles they would have sold them for $100 at the most.

 

[Pathos]

bs price

 

[GuitarAtomik]

Is the kinect dead as a gaming input? If yes then "cutting off the legs of it" doesn't matter because it's simply a peripheral to better the user experience of which install base/attach rate is going to be immensely less important

The camera is used for a lot more than gaming. As a gaming input it's gasping for air at the moment but you can consider it officially dead if they put out a device like that. Personally, I'm looking forward to Dance Central, Fantasia, D4, and Fru looks interesting too. Even if it's just a few of those coming along every once in a while, I think it's worth it to leave the door open for stuff like that.

 

[statham]

So what happens when you add a single other device to that mix, like an AppleTV, Roku, PS4, WiiU, Xbox360, PS3, Blu-ray player, HTPC?

Kinect voice control insta-fail. It's basically a really limited universal remote, for $150. It can't deal with anything but watching TV (one source only) or playing games. In 2014, that's simply not good enough.

I would literally be unable to use Kinect 2 to control my setup simply because I would have more than an Xbox One and a cable TV box. Using Kinect would get any other universal remote I had out of sync, yet Kinect isn't able to control my other devices (or even configure my receiver to be on the correct input) so I would have to use other remotes with Kinect.

A basic universal remote like the Logitech Harmony 350 is about 4x more utilitarian than Kinect 2.0, and cost $40. It also controls the Xbox One - just saying.

By the way, I use a Logitech Harmony Smart Keyboard which not only lets me control everything in my system (6 devices) but acts as a USB keyboard for both my PS4 and HTPC, and Bluetooth keyboard for my smart TV - all from one device. It also let's me control all those devices from anywhere in the house, via wifi, from my smart phone or tablet.

You might be able to say Xbox Off to turn off your gear before you go to bed, but can you actually do it FROM bed?

no issues, if that controls everything you want. I don't use those, kinect controls everything I need. if you found a cheaper device that fits your needs, awesome. I also like the kinect features of some games for it, I have a young son who will defiantly make use of it.

 

[SwiftDeath]

The camera is used for a lot more than gaming. As a gaming input it's gasping for air at the moment but you can consider it officially dead if they put out a device like that. Personally, I'm looking forward to Dance Central, Fantasia, D4, and Fru looks interesting too. Even if it's just a few of those coming along every once in a while, I think it's worth it to leave the door open for stuff like that.

Dance Central is likely the only game to move the needle at all I would imagine. D4 while interesting can be fully played with a controller albeit I'm sure it's supposed to be better with kinect. Fantasia and Fru will probably unfortunately not do too well

Again my scenario makes sense if you accept kinect is dead as a gaming input, if you don't then it wouldn't but I have trouble beleiving there is much future for the device especially with The Fighter Within, the only [?] 3rd party game so far for it bombing quite badly

 

[Ranger X]

Its Microsoft laughing at you guys and telling you that the original Xbone was a bargain!

 

[Obscured]

This seems like the price that was expected. While a lot of people see this just as hubris piled on hubris, I'm looking at this as it means that they are planning on continuing to support it and make it more than just a more convenient way to navigate the system. Hope we start to see some of that sooner than later.

 

[GuitarAtomik]

Dance Central is likely the only game to move the needle at all I would imagine. D4 while interesting can be fully played with a controller albeit I'm sure it's supposed to be better with kinect. Fantasia and Fru will probably unfortunately not do too well

Again my scenario makes sense if you accept kinect is dead as a gaming input, if you don't then it wouldn't but I have trouble beleiving there is much future for the device especially with The Fighter Within, the only [?] 3rd party game so far for it bombing quite badly

If in a year and a half all the Kinect focused games released have bombed and none are in the pipeline then whatever. It won't matter anymore. I don't see the point in cutting it's legs off before it's dead.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

LOL! This gif is awesome. Saved.

And yeah this is dumb. I have had the X1 since launch but I haven't seen anything besides the OS that makes any use out of it.

Madden NFL 25 makes use of it, so does FIFA 14 to a pretty big degree. You can change tactics on the fly, I think you can even make the ref hear you if I'm not mistaken, and a few other things.

So what happens when you add a single other device to that mix, like an AppleTV, Roku, PS4, WiiU, Xbox360, PS3, Blu-ray player, HTPC?

Kinect voice control insta-fail. It's basically a really limited universal remote, for $150. It can't deal with anything but watching TV (one source only) or playing games. In 2014, that's simply not good enough.

I would literally be unable to use Kinect 2 to control my setup simply because I would have more than an Xbox One and a cable TV box. Using Kinect would get any other universal remote I had out of sync, yet Kinect isn't able to control my other devices (or even configure my receiver to be on the correct input) so I would have to use other remotes with Kinect.

A basic universal remote like the Logitech Harmony 350 is about 4x more utilitarian than Kinect 2.0, and cost $40. It also controls the Xbox One - just saying.

By the way, I use a Logitech Harmony Smart Keyboard which not only lets me control everything in my system (6 devices) but acts as a USB keyboard for both my PS4 and HTPC, and Bluetooth keyboard for my smart TV - all from one device. It also let's me control all those devices from anywhere in the house, via wifi, from my smart phone or tablet.

You might be able to say Xbox Off to turn off your gear before you go to bed, but can you actually do it FROM bed?

Yes... you absolutely can. I do it almost everyday lol.

 

[beercr8te]

Glad I bought the xbone with kinect and titanfall at 439 euro..

 

[rjcc]

so wait, people are mad because the Kinect they say they don't want costs too much?

 

[beercr8te]

can't edit for some reason, but i got the xbone with kinect and titanfall for 439 euro.

 

[Lucent]

Madden NFL 25 makes use of it, so does FIFA 14 to a pretty big degree. You can change tactics on the fly, I think you can even make the ref hear you if I'm not mistaken, and a few other things.

Well, games besides sports games (which I don't play). lol

 

[SwiftDeath]

If in a year and a half all the Kinect focused games released have bombed and none are in the pipeline then whatever. It won't matter anymore. I don't see the point in cutting it's legs off before it's dead.

That's fine. We simply have different opinions about it's current state then. I think things like Dance Central will continue to exist for the device and maybe Ubisoft will throw out another kinect game to test the waters but it will be very limited and a shadow of the initial kinect support the first one got which still failed to make a compelling place to make games for publishers

 

[Mohonky]

so wait, people are mad because the Kinect they say they don't want costs too much?

Yep.

If you want a kinect for $100, buy it in the bundle, thats what the damn bundle is for.

Then people claiming 'MS arent even doing anything with Kinect' but if you go into a Microsoft Studios thread about what Titles MS is working on its 'MS has too many studios working on kinect shit'

Its like a dog chasing its tail.

If MS priced it at $100 people would be saying 'lol whats the point of the bundle then?' If they priced it lower it would be 'lol kinect bomba'

 

[Solaire of Astora]

Technically, I suppose.

I prefer the external approach personally as most of those headsets either are annoying to wear with my glasses (or approaches like the headsets like the Pulse ones). Which was partially why I got the PS Camera for my PS4.

So what about a cheap mic that plugs into the controller and a cheap USB ir blaster? You have the best of kinect for a much, much lower price.

As for the price of the solo kinect, I can see both arguments. Yes, they had to price it higher to incentivize the kinect bundle, but given the overwhelmingly negative reaction many (myself included) had to the kinect, that makes the solo xbone bundle seem overpriced. With a game is okay, but without a game, I think it's $50 too expensive.

 

[njean777]

Exactly. People keep trying so hard to pretend that a microphone perfectly mimics all that Kinect does and the ease and convenience of using it in the way that we are able to on the Xbox One.

A microphone wouldn't be able to instantly make my nephew's profile the active profile in FIFA 14 once he sits down and picks up the controller. That's Kinect seeing my nephew, noting his presence and the fact that he has the controller in his hand, and then making sure that his button configuration is loaded, his career files with proper game settings are loaded etc. Oh well, it doesn't matter if other people don't get it, but I love Kinect on the xbox one.

Offering the option wouldn't hurt them. I have a kinect that is never plugged in and miss nothing about it other than "Record that". Having that ability on a mic would help. Unless they actually make recording easier, like say the ps4 where you just push one button.

 

[rokkerkory]

Hahahaha crazy stupid price. Fail.

 

[krypt0nian]

so wait, people are mad because the Kinect they say they don't want costs too much?

The strawman people? Yeah I hate those bastards.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

Exactly. People keep trying so hard to pretend that a microphone perfectly mimics all that Kinect does and the ease and convenience of using it in the way that we are able to on the Xbox One.

A microphone wouldn't be able to instantly make my nephew's profile the active profile in FIFA 14 once he sits down and picks up the controller. That's Kinect seeing my nephew, noting his presence and the fact that he has the controller in his hand, and then making sure that his button configuration is loaded, his career files with proper game settings are loaded etc. Oh well, it doesn't matter if other people don't get it, but I love Kinect on the xbox one.

So your argument is mic and camera functionality? Sony has one of those combos on amazon right now for $40. And, yeah, that tried and true tech has useful applications.

Kinect tech was more about motion control remember? But after 25? million units sold last gen and whatever software, they've did fuck all to convince people they needed it for X1 and it failed. Right now it's only being utilized as an overpriced camera and mic.

Oh but the future plans! They had all of last gen to achieve something more.