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Phantasy Star Online and Monster Hunter style games Thread: Star Hunter Society

Malyse

Member
True.. Not having enough is a bummer, but I'll give it a try anyway. Reading a lot of good things for a game I've never even heard of.

I never played it coop and had a blast. And you can usually find some randoms to party up with.

I want to get into Phantasy Star but the fucking incompetence combo of Sony and Sega keep standing in my way.

I'm beyond pissed that they delisted PSP2 in preparation for PSO2 on Vita and then failed to release PSO2 on Vita in the US.

Ah, now this is a good thread. Wish God Eater 2 got an US release, did not like the first one that much but some of the new features sounded great.

And I'll never understand how Lord of Arcana got a sequel.

We'll likely get 2 Rage Burst. That seems to be how Namco is playing it; only push the expanded version worldwide.

The only hunting game I've played was God Eater Burst which I liked a lot. I played it solo with the AI despite the genre seeming to be more geared towards co-op. Hopefully God Eater 2 will get localized.

If I were to play a Monster Hunter game and all I had was a Vita which PSP game should I look at getting? Are MH games fun to play solo or is it balanced entirely with party play in mind?

Hmm. I think you can still cop the Freedom Unite demo off PSN.
 

Sykotik

Member
If I were to play a Monster Hunter game and all I had was a Vita which PSP game should I look at getting? Are MH games fun to play solo or is it balanced entirely with party play in mind?

Monster Hunter Freedom Unite. It was the latest iteration and by far has the most content. Each MH game has single player content and, if you're so inclined, you can also do the content meant for a party.

Freedom Unite is a great game. I think I put over 200 hours into it and I didn't quite scratch the surface as far as high-level content.
 

ramyeon

Member
Nice thread, I'm a big hunting genre fan. There are quite a few games in the OP that are not hunting games though... Type-0 is not at all and most of the honorable mentions aren't either... Kingdom Hearts really?
 

Aerocrane

Member
Hmm. I think you can still cop the Freedom Unite demo off PSN.
It seems the demo isn't available on PSN here in Finland.

Monster Hunter Freedom Unite. It was the latest iteration and by far has the most content. Each MH game has single player content and, if you're so inclined, you can also do the content meant for a party.

Freedom Unite is a great game. I think I put over 200 hours into it and I didn't quite scratch the surface as far as high-level content.

Thanks, it's only 10€ so I'll just get it to try out the series.
 

Malyse

Member
Word of warning to anyone interested in PSO2es on mobile. Expect to spend a lot of time updating. It's been like 6 hours so far and I'm at 25%.

Nice thread, I'm a big hunting genre fan. There are quite a few games in the OP that are not hunting games though.

Which.
 

ramyeon

Member
Word of warning to anyone interested in PSO2es on mobile. Expect to spend a lot of time updating. It's been like 6 hours so far and I'm at 25%.



Which.
Type-0 and a lot of the honorable mentions (Especially the Kingdom Hearts games). Just cause they're mission based RPGs doesn't make them a hunting action game.

Also Sword Art Online. That's an offline MMORPG if anything. I say this having played all the games in question quite a lot. They're just not Hunting Action games.
 
Played Monster Hunter 1, Freedom Unite, Tri, Portable 3rd and 3U, all of them extensively. I actually met my now best friend in MH1 back in 2005. Very much looking forward to 4U.
 

Lindsay

Dot Hacked
Neat thread! I still play PSØ & PSP2i on an off. The PS series must be good enough for me cause I've never really tried any of them other games listed o.o;


Would Dragon Quest IX get an honorary mention? It may not be as actiony as the rest but its full of that dungeon, baddie, looting goodness!
 
Huge fan of Soul Sacrifice, but the prestige system is so bad. 1/2 servers being leveling servers.
Pity endgame is just about everyone becoming OP instead of teamwork

Maybe removed pso ep3 op, its a card game
 

Infinite

Member
Type-0 and a lot of the honorable mentions (Especially the Kingdom Hearts games). Just cause they're mission based RPGs doesn't make them a hunting action game.

Also Sword Art Online. That's an offline MMORPG if anything. I say this having played all the games in question quite a lot. They're just not Hunting Action games.

What exactly is a "hunting action game"? Thought it was a nickname capcom gave it's monster hunter franchise AFTER it got popular on the PSP.
 

Malyse

Member
Neat thread! I still play PSØ & PSP2i on an off. The PS series must be good enough for me cause I've never really tried any of them other games listed o.o;


Would Dragon Quest IX get an honorary mention? It may not be as actiony as the rest but its full of that dungeon, baddie, looting goodness!

Is it mission based?
 

Malyse

Member
Type-0 and a lot of the honorable mentions (Especially the Kingdom Hearts games). Just cause they're mission based RPGs doesn't make them a hunting action game.

Also Sword Art Online. That's an offline MMORPG if anything. I say this having played all the games in question quite a lot. They're just not Hunting Action games.

That's why they are honorable mentions. With Type-0 we've mainly talking about Agito, which was brought up in the thread before. Also:

The current scope of Hunting Action game being used for this thread is any action games or action RPG's with a mission based structure, party based co-op, and character customization of some sort.

SAO is an action RPG that is mission based, has party based co-op, and character customization. If I take it off, then FF Explorers should go too, as it apparently has a combat system in line with FFXI and FFXIV.
 

emb

Member
Love these types of games. ^.^

Don't always have the time to dig into them lately, but still. From time to time I'll bust out PSO (Ep. I & II). And I'm looking forward to MH4. Recently picked up Soul Sacrifice, and have been planning to get Toukiden too.

GAF, which monster Hunter is the best for psp?

I want to give the series another chance.
Freedom Unite, as far as I know.

There's so much stuff in that one.
 

WarRock

Member
We'll likely get 2 Rage Burst. That seems to be how Namco is playing it; only push the expanded version worldwide.

I only have a PSP though, haha.

It may be worth noting that Phantasy Star Portable 2 Infinity has a translation patch in progress.
 

Infinite

Member
GAF, which monster Hunter is the best for psp?

I want to give the series another chance.

Always go with the latest and greatest and that will be Monster Hunter Portable 3rd. it has all the mechanics from Gen 3 monster hunter so the game play is a lot more approachable and less obtuse. Also playable on vita with dual analog support if I'm not mistaken. The bad thing is it's not in English but there's a patch for it available I think
 

ramyeon

Member
That's why they are honorable mentions. With Type-0 we've mainly talking about Agito, which was brought up in the thread before. Also:



SAO is an action RPG that is mission based, has party based co-op, and character customization. If I take it off, then FF Explorers should go too, as it apparently has a combat system in line with FFXI and FFXIV.
Guess you might as well add World of Warcraft and every MMORPG then lol. I think your definition is way too broad.

They may be honorable mentions but I don't see why Kingdom Hearts games should be compared to games like MonHun as the same genre, it just doesn't make sense.
 

Infinite

Member
That's why they are honorable mentions. With Type-0 we've mainly talking about Agito, which was brought up in the thread before. Also:



SAO is an action RPG that is mission based, has party based co-op, and character customization. If I take it off, then FF Explorers should go too, as it apparently has a combat system in line with FFXI and FFXIV.

Rolling with that definition it's fair to add E.X. Troopers and Lost Planet 2 to the OP imo

Guess you might as well add World of Warcraft and every MMORPG then lol. I think your definition is way too broad.

They may be honorable mentions but I don't see why Kingdom Hearts games should be compared to games like MonHun as the same genre, it just doesn't make sense.

WoW and other MMOs like it aren't action games.
 

Alric

Member
Awesome thread, makes me wish so bad that phantasy star was coming stateside for vita or even monster hunter 3rd HD for vita...sigh.
 

Mikado

Member
Also, who was the gaffer making a monster hunting game? I remember reading about it in the indie development thread. Game looked great. It was a husband and wife combo if I remember correctly

We're still around. No public updates for a while as we've been super busy with a lot of contract work this last year. Meanwhile, we've ported our game & engine to PS4 and we're working on refining our setting and mechanics to better give our game its own identity.
 
OMG, Nano Diver! I think it's the only one in this genre that I never heard anything else other than the name.

How good is that game?
Its really low budget and simplistic but has done neat ideas. Probably the unique feature being that you can dynamically adjust boss difficulty in the middle of a quest to get higher quality drops. Me and another guy played up until the game's equivalent of HR because the monsters got impossible to deal with with just two people.

I kind of disagree with some of the series put in the OP since not all multiplayer action RPGs are hunting action games. The PSO series revolves more around being able to deal with large hordes of enemies than it does with boss fights.
 

Travado

Member
My favorite genre, thread subscribed.

I bought the Dreamcast just for Phantasy Star Online: over 800 hours just on that game, playing online on dial-up internet with my friends and offline too.

Hunting games are time consuming and I have others games to play too, but I would love to play Phantasy Star Online 2 one day. I still have Phantasy Star Portable 2 sealed for PSP.

Or perhaps Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II HD on PSN. Oh God, I would buy that for sure.
 
Its really low budget and simplistic but has done neat ideas. Probably the unique feature being that you can dynamically adjust boss difficulty in the middle of a quest to get higher quality drops. Me and another guy played up until the game's equivalent of HR because the monsters got impossible to deal with with just two people.

=P, I might try to play it someday, I like trying out these low budget games, specially considering I know almost nothing about it.
 

DJIzana

Member
My favorite genre, thread subscribed.

I bought the Dreamcast just for Phantasy Star Online: over 800 hours just on that game, playing online on dial-up internet with my friends and offline too.

Hunting games are time consuming and I have others games to play too, but I would love to play Phantasy Star Online 2 one day. I still have Phantasy Star Portable 2 sealed for PSP.

Or perhaps Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II HD on PSN. Oh God, I would buy that for sure.

What I wouldn't give for this as well, heh.
 
I hate a how PSO has been retoconned into a "Hunting Action" game. Is Destiny a "Hunting Action" game now too or do they have to be Japanese action RPGs to qualify?
 

WarRock

Member
I just realized that I never played PSP2

I played PSP, never beat it, but I quite enjoyed it. How is PSPi2 compared to PSP?

Unless you really, really love the slow paced combat in PSP, way better. Fucked weapon balancing, but in a good way. The amount of content is absurd.
 

Lindsay

Dot Hacked
Is it mission based?
The story portion of the game isn't but thats about the same with PSO/PSU/etc. Its got 170-some missions an a bunch of which require the whole dungeon crawlin' thing whether its revisiting ones from the story or the infinite randomly generated ones!

Still keeping the flame lit, bless your enthusiasm in the old PSU threads~
It's hard ta let some things go especially when you're still not at max level or beaten everything or w/e! I can't be enthusiastic for PSO2 because Segac but Nova might be worth getting pumped up over!

I just realized that I never played PSP2

I played PSP, never beat it, but I quite enjoyed it. How is PSPi2 compared to PSP?
PSP was basically PSU. PSP2 & Infinity add an change so much they almost feel like different games. For one the difficulties much higher! But now ya got charge attacks for ranged weapons, roll dodging, gaurding, a new race (Infinity-only), an lots lots more.
 

Infinite

Member
I hate a how PSO has been retoconned into a "Hunting Action" game. Is Destiny a "Hunting Action" game now too or do they have to be Japanese action RPGs to qualify?

The first five pages of this thread at least, will be about what isn't Hunting Action and what is.
 

krossj

Member
PSO and Monster Hunter are fantastic series in my book. Soul Sacrifice was good and Toukiden was decent but with some major faults. I had difficulty getting into God Eater just something about it didn't feel very solid but i would probably give GE II a try if it came over. Big fan of the genre, even more so since MH3U last year.

Freedom Wars will be the next one for me but with SMT IV coming the day before I might not get round to it straight away. Also wanting to give FF Type-0 a shot when it hits. I wish we got PSO 2 on the vita but it is looking very unlikely now.

Going to keep an eye out for this thread and any new games that come up with similar gameplay.
 

emb

Member
I hate a how PSO has been retoconned into a "Hunting Action" game. Is Destiny a "Hunting Action" game now too or do they have to be Japanese action RPGs to qualify?
Hunting action doesn't seem like the name for whatever genre PSO is in. (When I hear that, I think basically of a Monster Hunter clone).

But there's something about the loot focus and the lovable repetition that definitely makes me feel like MH and PSO scratch the same itch. Not sure quite what to call the broader group that includes both.
 
As long as we're listing kusoge I guess Frontier Gate counts too. I don't even know who bought that one.

Hunting action doesn't seem like the name for whatever genre PSO is in. (When I hear that, I think basically of a Monster Hunter clone).

But there's something about the loot focus and the lovable repetition that definitely makes me feel like MH and PSO scratch the same itch. Not sure quite what to call the broader group that includes both.

"Skinner box"
 
Really cool OP, I enjoyed reading it.

I have an interesting relationship with this genre. It seems massively prevalent on my favourite console (Vita), but the series have been hit and miss for me.

I suppose Phantasy Star would've been my first attempt at the genre (playing Phantasy Star Online on the Xbox with friends). Absolutely loved it. One of my favourite local co-op experiences of all time.

Then many years passed until I tried Monster Hunter. Firstly Freedom Unite on PSP, then Tri on Wii. Didn't like either of them, particularly, so I've passed on the series since then.

Next was God Eater - I put about 25 hours into God Eater Burst on PSP. It was... alright. It suffered from whatever I disliked about Monster Hunter too (Animations too slow to react? Movement too slow? Not sure). I didn't hate it, but I'm not particularly fussed about trying any more games in the series. I did enjoy the fact you were switching between guns and melee weapons, though.

Then I tried Soul Sacrifice which I loved, just the original game. The focus on spells and the faster pace of combat really kept me interested - though it got repetitive like every game I've played in the genre, I did genuinely enjoy it a hell of a lot. I have the Asian-English version of Delta ordered at the moment.

I've also tried the demos of Toukiden and Ragnarok Odyssey. The former I didn't particularly like - the latter I did like a lot. Will probably order Ace one day when I find it cheap enough.

Currently I'm waiting on Freedom Wars' release to see if I enjoy that. Given that it's by the God Eater devs, I'm not expecting a whole lot, but the PvP element and customisable accessories seem interesting at least.

Anyway, there you go.
 

Malyse

Member
I just realized that I never played PSP2

I played PSP, never beat it, but I quite enjoyed it. How is PSPi2 compared to PSP?

Immeasurably better. Think Assassin's Creed to Assassin's Creed 2 or Uncharted to Uncharted 2 or Mass Effect to Mass Effect 2.
 

The End

Member
I hate a how PSO has been retoconned into a "Hunting Action" game. Is Destiny a "Hunting Action" game now too or do they have to be Japanese action RPGs to qualify?

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Veldin

Member
The first five pages of this thread at least, will be about what isn't Hunting Action and what is.

Well, yeah. I have to admit it is a strange name to me and the criteria is kinda abstract. Most of these are at least online action RPGs so it seems picky to narrow it down even further.
 

Malyse

Member
The story portion of the game isn't but thats about the same with PSO/PSU/etc. Its got 170-some missions an a bunch of which require the whole dungeon crawlin' thing whether its revisiting ones from the story or the infinite randomly generated ones!

Did some reading and I think it's closer to Animal Crossing than anything else.
 

Korten

Banned
As much as I love PSO... I still hold the belief that it's HARDLY the first hunting game. It's ties to Monster Hunter (which really is the original), are so small that the only similiarity they hold is that they have a hub town and real time combat. Even then the feel of combat from PSO and MH is drastically different.
 

Korten

Banned
What I consider a hunting game:

A game which has a hub town or an emphasis on killing boss monsters, for the sole purpose of gaining crafting materials for crafting armor and weapons. Typically you chase these bosses around the map and actually "hunt" them.

I feel like now a days, anyone's taking a game that has a hub town, co-op instances missions, and real time combat as a "hunting" game. Which they're not. PSO, SAO, PSU, are Action RPGs and in the case of PSO and PSU are more akin to Diablo.
 
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