-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Should the WiiU have at trophy/achievement system?
- Thread starter dano1
- Start date
bemusedchunk
Banned
nope.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
no, even if I wouldn't mad if they added one, it's pointless.
Edit: I get that it incentives players to do stuff they wouldn't do otherwise, so I get the appeal, but they are pointless in the sense that you gain nothing from them. I like how some Wii U games get you stamps.
Edit: I get that it incentives players to do stuff they wouldn't do otherwise, so I get the appeal, but they are pointless in the sense that you gain nothing from them. I like how some Wii U games get you stamps.
KiefbladeMaster
Member
No, don't see the need for it. If the dev wants to put them in-game I'm fine with it.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
We've had this discussion to death.
Yes, they probably should, but it should be a more 'Nintendo' approach than some arbitrary number beside your NNID. I like the hat idea for Miis, sorta like the avatar awards with the Xbox.
Edit: Making Miiverse stamps more meaningful would be a good place to start. Let me use the stamps from every game across every community in Miiverse. That, and tying stamps to specific achievments.
Yes, they probably should, but it should be a more 'Nintendo' approach than some arbitrary number beside your NNID. I like the hat idea for Miis, sorta like the avatar awards with the Xbox.
Edit: Making Miiverse stamps more meaningful would be a good place to start. Let me use the stamps from every game across every community in Miiverse. That, and tying stamps to specific achievments.
yes, this
Twenty7KVN
Member
I don't care either way.
SolidSnakex
Member
The OP mentioned exactly why there should be one, which is that he chose the PS4 version of Rayman because of them. There are people that will play more Wii U games if they had trophies. Are there people that would play them less if they were there?
PixyJunket
Member
Yes. 100% YES. It's the one thing I dislike about the 3DS and Wii U.
Just give an option to hide them for the people that are afraid of them.
Just give an option to hide them for the people that are afraid of them.
Laevateinn
Member
I hate trophies because it ends up convincing me to waste time doing tasks I find boring.
Lack of trophies is a huge plus for me.
Lack of trophies is a huge plus for me.
I think that is a very silly reason to buy on one platform or another, but more power to you.
Nintendo has put custom stamps in their games that you unlock. What I would like is the ability to use those stamps outside of their respective game's community on miiverse.
This would satisfy the itch for trophies and they would actually be something useful and fun instead of just an e-peen.
dragonfart28
Banned
Nah.
Never once cared about achievements or trophies.
Never once cared about achievements or trophies.
Leafhopper
Banned
People still care about those?
Lavpa Jasai
Member
True, but they really should have provided a system wide implementation of them. I would love if you had a "Stamp Book" and could browse them based on game. You dont even need to have a number attached to them, just list the description of how you got the stamp if you cursor over it. Maybe next console
Sure, it's a functionnality that needs to be linked to your NNID.
It's not because Miyamoto said games should be fun to play without artificial goals, that Nintendo shouldn't give this functionnality to developers.
Plus, Miiverse and Club Nintendo allows them to have a very good achievement system.
Everything should be there, but more than often I think Nintendo's people who decides in Japan are completely unaware of ideas that comes from the West.
Edit: And luckily that's not everyone case. Sakurai's walls of challenge in Kid Icarus / Smash Bros are achievements. Tecmo Koei's Hyrule Warriors have them too with auto Miiverse posts.
This really seems to be nothing but a case of Kyoto hypocrisy, just to not do what everyone do.
It's not because Miyamoto said games should be fun to play without artificial goals, that Nintendo shouldn't give this functionnality to developers.
Plus, Miiverse and Club Nintendo allows them to have a very good achievement system.
Everything should be there, but more than often I think Nintendo's people who decides in Japan are completely unaware of ideas that comes from the West.
Edit: And luckily that's not everyone case. Sakurai's walls of challenge in Kid Icarus / Smash Bros are achievements. Tecmo Koei's Hyrule Warriors have them too with auto Miiverse posts.
This really seems to be nothing but a case of Kyoto hypocrisy, just to not do what everyone do.
SerTapTap
Member
It's too late in the console's life to integrate such a system, imagine all the games that already came out that would need to be patched for this.
In-game trophies work for me anyway.
Not much later than when the PS3 integrated it. Though relatively speaking the Wii U has way less life in it than the PS3 did I guess.
If they did do a system, I'd like to see some sort of interesting spin on it, though I fear it would exclusively be related to Miiverse which I'd rather forget existed. I much prefer Playstation's "level" system to the gamerscore system of Xbox one (simpler to compare vague levels of trophies) or Steam's (which is...just...basically pointless, a bare step up from Nintendo's)
Sir_Crocodile
Member
I think they're stupid beyond belief, but as long as they can be totally disabled I don't really care
It's because the fact you don't care that you should want these achievements/trophies/stamps. I can't be bother with it as well, but it might pull some people who do like it. I think it can only be good for the system.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
The miiverse stamps are the only thing close so far
I personally don't care for them.
Beating the game is all I care about.
I personally don't care for them.
Beating the game is all I care about.
It's too late in the console's life to integrate such a system, imagine all the games that already came out that would need to be patched for this.
In-game trophies work for me anyway.
The PS3 achieved its trophy system a looooong time after it was out. Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid 4 didn't have trophies at launch... And MGS4 was at least a year after the PS3 came out.
It can be done!
bemusedchunk
Banned
Perfectly cromulent response right here.
Personally, on one hand I love collecting trophies and going that extra mile to achieve the platinum trophy (MGR, my precious) but at times it puts a lot of pressure because of the sheer amount of trophies being collectable.
The fact that the 3DS and the Wii U don't have such systems is a relief, honestly. I can play for hours on ende and don't bother with a percentage of how much I completed the game yet.
So, for personal preference, I'd say that Nintendo should still offer the non-achievement experience to balance it out, because besides Steam achievements, XBox achievements and Sony trophies, it sure is a relief.
The fact that the 3DS and the Wii U don't have such systems is a relief, honestly. I can play for hours on ende and don't bother with a percentage of how much I completed the game yet.
So, for personal preference, I'd say that Nintendo should still offer the non-achievement experience to balance it out, because besides Steam achievements, XBox achievements and Sony trophies, it sure is a relief.
Yep, the stamps pretty much are exactly that. All they'd need to do is adding a page to your Miiverse profile showing all the stamps you've collected.
TheCowboyPoet
Member
It could make me turn my Wii U on every once in awhile, so yes.
yongeandcollege
Member
Yes. Sure Nintendo can change it in some way if they want, but there is no good reason to not include something which is standard on pretty much all gaming platforms (PS, Xbox, Steam, iOS).
digoutyoursoul
Member
I don't see why not
Yes, Im not a trophy hunter, but I find myself exploring games a lot more, then I used to.
If I feel like Im going to be rewarded either by an in-game perk, or system-level trophy, I make a little more effort in otherwise monotonous task/back tracking, or an little more effort in "trying again" to get a certain amount of "points"
If I feel like Im going to be rewarded either by an in-game perk, or system-level trophy, I make a little more effort in otherwise monotonous task/back tracking, or an little more effort in "trying again" to get a certain amount of "points"
James Coote
Neo Member
Only if MiiVerse gets hats
CastorTroy
Member
Don't see what the point would be.
Yes. And it should be stamps.