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I don't like Zelda
- Thread starter strobogo
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It's cool. I don't like wrestling.
So we've got different opinions, wacky huh?
I still love you Stroburger
Uh oh. OT: You're not the only one. Not a big Zelda fan myself.
ShockingAlberto
Member
You don't actually have to like anything.
It doesn't matter what people think of your opinions, it in no way obligates you to change your mind.
It seems more like you wanted to rant about not getting it than anything else. Which, uh, great? I also do not like several things.
It doesn't matter what people think of your opinions, it in no way obligates you to change your mind.
It seems more like you wanted to rant about not getting it than anything else. Which, uh, great? I also do not like several things.
For me Zelda is all about the joy of exploration. I love dungeon crawling, so the older Zeldas are like crack to me xD
I can understand the apathy towards the more recent (hand holding, tutorial filled, easier) Zelda games, but if you played some of the classics and they did nothing for you, it's probably just not your kind of game.
I'm curious, how do you feel about games like Binding of Isaac, Dark Souls and Legend of Grimrock? Because to me they embody some of the elements that make the better Zelda games. (freely exploring awesome places, finding cool treasure, solving clever puzzles)
I can understand the apathy towards the more recent (hand holding, tutorial filled, easier) Zelda games, but if you played some of the classics and they did nothing for you, it's probably just not your kind of game.
I'm curious, how do you feel about games like Binding of Isaac, Dark Souls and Legend of Grimrock? Because to me they embody some of the elements that make the better Zelda games. (freely exploring awesome places, finding cool treasure, solving clever puzzles)
It's fun to me.
The dungeons never look the same. Come on now. And usually they take less than an hour. But the dungeons are less fun that running around poking grass, jars and chickens with a sword, I'll give you that.
The story isn't the focus of Zelda. It could certainly be better, but it's not terrible. It doesn't drive the action as much as other narrative games. The promise of more dungeons, new locations to explore and more items drives the action as much as anything.
Sure they are.
You aren't missing anything. As the quotes above show, you just don't like the things I like. It's that simple. and that's fine. See the first post. It's perfectly okay. And you know what? You should give up trying, because you'll just frustrate yourself.
It's not ranting. There is nothing rant-like about it. What the thread was asking for is for people to tell me why they do or don't like the series, because I don't get it.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Mainly I just like the exploration and the puzzle solving in the dungeons.
Fix The Scientist
Member
The extreme reverence for the series is a little irksome at times but i still enjoy most zelda games. I don't think there's been an interesting one in a decade though.
ShockingAlberto
Member
*raises eyebrow*
It's too late at night for me to really care about this but I feel like this is fairly transparent.
El-Pistolero
Member
I like none of the 3D games, save for Majora's Mask, but I adore a Link's Awakening and, to a lesser degree, A Link To The Past, both of which have a special place in my heart. OoT bored me to tears and the overabundance of brown, mixed with the empty, lifeless world, plus the excessively easy puzzles made me question the sanity of fans and reviewers alike...
Coffee Dog
Banned
If you don't like ALTTP or OOT, it's just not for you and that's okay.
Do not poke cucco with sword.
Wat?
There are no "never ending dungeons" in Legend of Zelda games and they also don't "look the same".
It's quite strange that you say something like that, especially when you tried both NES Zeldas, ALTTP, OoT and TP.
Maybe you just don't like exploring and figuring stuff out for yourself. And no HUD telling you that a "hidden tomb" is nearby. For me that's exciting. For you I guess it's boring because you get lost or get stuck somewhere and you don't know where to continue.
Maybe the child in yourself has died at some point.
LegalEagleMike
Member
Well give us some of your favorite games so we have some insight into what it is you get out of those that Zelda does not provide.
They think it's a pretty fun adventure title me thinks.
seeing people play through the gameboy zeldas look neat.
I'd do the same if I wasn't terrible at them.
Coffee Dog
Banned
If you don't like dungeons there's always ALBW
Always-honest
Banned
To be honest, i always really love it when a new Zelda comes out. Then when i play it, i notice that some parts are just waaaaaaaay too tedious/ waaaaaay too much of a chore.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Zelda is one of the few major Nintendo IPs I just can't seem to get into. Others being Kirby and Pokemon. I find those two too easy to enjoy, but I'm not sure what it is about Zelda. I just find the games boring for some reason.
Despite that I still plan to give the series yet another try with the Wii U game...
Despite that I still plan to give the series yet another try with the Wii U game...
I enjoy: The Mario series, Super Metroid, GTA series, AKI wrestling games, Arkham series, general SNES/Genesis beat em ups, Sonic 3 + Knuckles, Metal Gear Solid series. Probably other stuff. I've enjoyed a good number of super hero games in the last gen (Just about all of the Spiderman games, Wolverine).
Nintendojitsu
Banned
This is true but then again you don't really need one to be a Zelda fan.
Different strokes for different folks.
This pic should be banned.
Heck all pics that add nothing to the discussion should be banned.
Prototype Viktor
Member
3D Dot Heroes > Zelda
Stan Strong Stro
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Sir_Crocodile
Member
In the good ones, for me?
Working out the solutions to puzzles. Felt most in alttp, links awakening & albw. If you didn't like alttp, then I guess the aspect of why I enjoy them doesn't click for you.
There's other stuff like getting new items and thinking back to past unsolvable puzzles and whether your new item would help, but that's the core of it for me.
Yes. I am a sociopath. Thanks for noticing.
lightchris
Member
Okay, so then:
I like the item progression (get new items to do new stuff and to get to new areas). I like the dungeons (puzzles!). I like the art design, music and sound, which result in a special atmopshere. I usually like the combat and bosses too (it's sad that the3D Zeldas are not challenging anymore though). There's barely anything in them I don't like to some degree,
Okay, so I'm reading and I'm following. Guy doesn't like the thing, that's fine. I don't like Call of Duty, even though lots of people do and I've tried a few of the games. So, boats are floated, strokes differ. Wouldn't say the dungeons "look the same," but sure, you could levy some of these criticisms. And then...
strobogo said:
I mean, I'm into all sorts of shit, so I'm not saying that elves and high fantasy are just automatically great, but...what? I don't understand how you reached this conclusion. How did you get from the "point A" of elves to the "point B" of not fun in games?
Eh, you can't really "learn" to like the Zelda games. You've played ALTTP and OOT and those are the best ones. You don't like Zelda, no problem.
I only really like the Zelda games from Majora's Mask and before. Music and atmosphere big reasons for my appreciation of the series. Nostalgia is probably a huge factor too.
I only really like the Zelda games from Majora's Mask and before. Music and atmosphere big reasons for my appreciation of the series. Nostalgia is probably a huge factor too.
Okay, so I'm reading and I'm following. Guy doesn't like the thing, that's fine. I don't like Call of Duty, even though lots of people do and I've tried a few of the games. So, boats are floated, strokes differ. Wouldn't say the dungeons "look the same," but sure, you could levy some of these criticisms. And then...
I mean, I'm into all sorts of shit, so I'm not saying that elves and high fantasy are just automatically great, but...what? I don't understand how you reached this conclusion. How did you get from the "point A" of elves to the "point B" of not fun in games?
I reached that conclusion because they aren't cool to me. And as a result, they aren't fun in game form, either.
If you actually wanted a discussion, you should've given more insight into your specific problems with the franchise in the OP (edit: and expand on them). "Elves aren't cool" isn't a discussable topic, unless the rebuttal you want to hear is "No, elves are cool". And describing something as generic without pointing to why it's generic doesn't amount to anything.
Did you make this thread just to get something off your chest or what? Cause this seems nothing more than someone just making a thread labeled "I don't like this game", then saying "Discuss."
Also, elves are cool.
Did you make this thread just to get something off your chest or what? Cause this seems nothing more than someone just making a thread labeled "I don't like this game", then saying "Discuss."
Also, elves are cool.
You are not a bad person/gamer. The games are not for everyone and no one should feel like they must like something. There are a huge variety of games, play something you like, try things that interest you. Just because others like it, doesn't mean it is something you will enjoy.
Here are some things I like about it.
- Puzzles - Some are clever, some are not. The more of them I play the faster I am at clearing dungeons because you eventually find patterns, knacks and just get to know what to look for. When this happens, finding a little clever puzzle that gets you stuck for a bit is actually quite nice and gives a rewarding feeling when you complete it.
- Not too difficult - It is relaxing and pleasant to play. I enjoy this at times though I understand that some seek more exciting gameplay, particularly in combat which is only a portion of the Zelda formula.
- Charming - A lot of odd little things that I find charming. Kid with constant snot problems. The hand coming out of the potty asking for paper. They are small, trivial and often insignificant but to me they are charming and somewhat interesting in their unique ways.
- Little differences - Most games have a little something to add to the series which others do not. A lot of people shrug it off calling it a gimmick. Whatever you call it, I quite like that the series does this. For example: OoT has the ability to shift between Kid/Adult and what you did as a kid will at times help you as an adult. Majora has masks. Twilight has the wolf form. ALBW has the 2D Wall thingy. Wind Waker has sailing. Oracle of Seasons changes the seasons.
I also enjoy the fantasy theme. Music is often pretty good too.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
But what needs to be discussed? The OP clearly stated he doesn't like Zelda... so, "Ok...?" is a suitable response to it IMO.
And besides, those who call other that dislike A or B a "bad gamer" are just children, so paying heed to them is just a waste of time.
curlyfriski
Banned
Some people like exploring and puzzle-solving and fantasy elements. Is that really so hard to understand?
The critique you're offering is pretty weak.
And the image in the first reply is justified when the OP isn't saying anything more substantive than "I don't like this thing."
The critique you're offering is pretty weak.
And the image in the first reply is justified when the OP isn't saying anything more substantive than "I don't like this thing."
Not sure why you can't understand why others like it.
Zelda games have memorable characters, great music,puzzles,exploration/collecting,cool weapons,good combat,big boss fights and the story can in fact be interesting and often has some very heartfelt moments.Beyond the main story there are also many little side stories going on with paticular characters that although may not be fully fleshed out add to the lore and give the world its charm. Also the games in my opinion do a good job at setting up a grand sense of adventure, especially oot and ww. Lastly its all in the details,zelda games are packed with little subtitles that in my opinion put it above your typical fantasy game.Clearly there is alot to like but It's cool if you don't like or get these things though.
Zelda games have memorable characters, great music,puzzles,exploration/collecting,cool weapons,good combat,big boss fights and the story can in fact be interesting and often has some very heartfelt moments.Beyond the main story there are also many little side stories going on with paticular characters that although may not be fully fleshed out add to the lore and give the world its charm. Also the games in my opinion do a good job at setting up a grand sense of adventure, especially oot and ww. Lastly its all in the details,zelda games are packed with little subtitles that in my opinion put it above your typical fantasy game.Clearly there is alot to like but It's cool if you don't like or get these things though.
Shaunboy97
Member
My avatar is saddened
Obviously. Hence all the Is. When someone says, X isn't cool, that means they think X isn't cool, not that everyone on the planet thinks X isn't cool.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
I like Zelda, shes a cool dude
Is that the little fairy thing with Galactus' hat?
MillionVolts
Member
I wouldn't go as far as to say "I don't understand why others like it," but my experience with the series has been pretty much the same as yours, OP.
Except I would say I do kinda enjoy the dungeons. But everything else in between feels like excess fat and is so boring. If I'm not solving puzzles in this series, I'm not having fun.
Except I would say I do kinda enjoy the dungeons. But everything else in between feels like excess fat and is so boring. If I'm not solving puzzles in this series, I'm not having fun.
The thing I don't like about Zelda (though contrary to the thread starter I still enjoy the games) is that it's the same old (and very limited/cliche) characters again and again, for nearly 30 years. There is no more sense of wonder and discovery. This is more of a general complaint about Nintendo: In the 1980s they created all those amazing and varied characters. By the mid-1990s they were largely done creating new ones and instead started using the same ones over and over again. Imagine Disney had stopped creating new characters in 1940 and would be using Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck in each and every new movie...
Coffee Dog
Banned
if you dont know what you're talking about why post
The Dennis System
Banned
I don't get the appeal either.
but then... what do you like exactly??
oh nevermind, don't answer that question. it's blatantly obvious, silly me even asking...
higgsboson1997
Member
I used to dislike Zelda too. WW and OoT never sat well with me.
Then I tried Zelda: ALBW. That is probably one of my 10 favourites ever. Maybe you'll like that better? It's a lot faster than other Zelda games, and much smoother.
Then I tried Zelda: ALBW. That is probably one of my 10 favourites ever. Maybe you'll like that better? It's a lot faster than other Zelda games, and much smoother.