Dr. Black Jack
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Different strokes for different folks.
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I don't like Zelda
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Dorsal Axe
Member
You don't have to like it. If you dislike the fantasy genre then you're definitely not going to like it. Not everyone has to like something.
Personally I love exploring the dungeons, and the thematic differences between them. I enjoy the mixture of puzzles and combat, and I take satisfaction from clearing a dungeon and defeating a boss. Some of boss battles are ridiculously fun, like Goht, Blizzeta and Koloktos.
Making patently untrue claims like "the dungeons all look the same" makes your post come across like you're just trying to be edgy. You should better explain your criticism.
Personally I love exploring the dungeons, and the thematic differences between them. I enjoy the mixture of puzzles and combat, and I take satisfaction from clearing a dungeon and defeating a boss. Some of boss battles are ridiculously fun, like Goht, Blizzeta and Koloktos.
Making patently untrue claims like "the dungeons all look the same" makes your post come across like you're just trying to be edgy. You should better explain your criticism.
Raptomex
Member
So I take it you're a HUGE Lord of the Rings fan.
Sleight of Jam
Banned
Couldn't agree more. Such a fantastic game!
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Honestly the pic straight up pisses me off.
OP, everytime I try and play a Zelda game I'm not pulled in. ALBW and Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword? I've tried them all and I just don't like it. Wind Waker looks awesome though and the new Zelda looks great, an I will buy both of those when I get a WiiU regardless on me not liking the series. I think, and this sounds soooo dumb, but I think it's the art style......but anywho, yeah same boat as you OP regardless of the 2 game I said looked awesome.
At this point, I think the comic would have more meaning directed at people overreacting to someone expressing dislike for something. Be like that angel: accept the opinion, and move on.
Going to test this theory...
sciencerob
Member
Link is Hyrulian typically. There are no elves.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
You don't have to like every game. Despite what some people might tell you.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
It's ok man. You don't have to like everything everyone else likes.
I hate GTA. Oh well.
Bu tI fucking LOVE Zelda.
I hate GTA. Oh well.
Bu tI fucking LOVE Zelda.
Dr. Buni
Member
Doesn't change the fact he looks like an elf.
Zelda is very special to me, its one of the very first games I played with a obsession to finish. The puzzles, story, music, dungeons, bosses, everything just works so well, there is no game like it. I love getting lost exploring a dungeon, not knowing what's behind that locked door, if it will be a sub boss or just a compass...
But I think its a really divisive series, as the Oracle games are my favorites, I really found TWW lukewarm by comparison, mostly because of the lame dungeons xP
But I think its a really divisive series, as the Oracle games are my favorites, I really found TWW lukewarm by comparison, mostly because of the lame dungeons xP
Various Artists
Banned
I loved link between worlds but haven't liked one since wind waker.
I see a lot of people telling you it's okay not to like a series/it might not be your cup of tea. Very little "You are bad and you should feel bad" kind of posts.
TyrantGuardian
Member
I don't like the Zelda games at all, but Minish Cap was an exception for me. Maybe you should check that one out? Really charming game that doesn't take itself as seriously as some of the other titles do.
GeordieMark
Member
It doesn't matter that you don't like it. I'm sure you aren't the only one. People like different things.
I would only question you if you called them bad games, because they are obviously well made and inventive.
I would only question you if you called them bad games, because they are obviously well made and inventive.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Eh. That pic does get a used but here it's totally appropriate.
The "discussion" is literally just the OP saying he doesn't like Zelda.
Minor really any room for anything other than people saying hey like or dislike it..
I dislike hundreds of popular games. Should I make a thread for them all? No because really, what does it add to neogaf? Nothing.
Polioliolio
Member
Sometimes I like Zelda.. But usually, I have a mild distaste for it.
OP is right about the generic story. It's bugged me ever since Ocarina of Time. Just feels so cliche.. Oooh noo,.. Looks like the evil man is capturing the princess.. He's so evil! Also, blah blah foretold hero legend blah blah.. It's really lame. I also have an issue with how the world is big and yet feels so small at the same time.. This is all compounded by the story and characters being more or less the same every single game.
There's also a dopey sort of reverence about the series that makes me want to wretch.
On the other hand, Wind Waker was amazing.. but I couldn't drag myself through Twilight Princess or anything else since.
Not that I can take Dynasty Warriors at all seriously, but it might be the most fresh take on Zelda the series really needed. I hope they really rock the boat with the next Zelda game.
OP is right about the generic story. It's bugged me ever since Ocarina of Time. Just feels so cliche.. Oooh noo,.. Looks like the evil man is capturing the princess.. He's so evil! Also, blah blah foretold hero legend blah blah.. It's really lame. I also have an issue with how the world is big and yet feels so small at the same time.. This is all compounded by the story and characters being more or less the same every single game.
There's also a dopey sort of reverence about the series that makes me want to wretch.
On the other hand, Wind Waker was amazing.. but I couldn't drag myself through Twilight Princess or anything else since.
Not that I can take Dynasty Warriors at all seriously, but it might be the most fresh take on Zelda the series really needed. I hope they really rock the boat with the next Zelda game.
Holy Order Sol
Member
How is this a discussion though.
Dude says shit looks the same when it clearly doesn't if you actually look at it for a second. Might as well say all games are the same because you see pixels and press buttons.
Imp the Dimp
Member
OP definitely doesn't like thing. The video game landscape is so diverse these days, I don't see how not liking Zelda a problem. Just play something else. There is a bunch of popular games I can't stand either but I find it easy enough to entertain myself with stuff I enjoy.
Akhe
Member
Different strokes for different folks.
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It's just not your thing. That's totally fine. Zelda's one of my favourite series ever, but I don't like stuff like Pikmin, Fallout etc. It's fine not to like stuff.
I'd reckon the people saying "You're not a REAL gamer!" are just joking. I know joke about it all the time when someone says they haven't played or don't like Zelda. 's all a bit of fun.
I'd reckon the people saying "You're not a REAL gamer!" are just joking. I know joke about it all the time when someone says they haven't played or don't like Zelda. 's all a bit of fun.
DistortionOfReality
Member
This really does make me question why you ever thought you would like the Zelda series in the first place. Yeh you can say 'people bang on about them, I wanted to see what the fuss was' but come on dude! you bought and played like 5 games in a series that centers entirely around the very stuff you are definitively saying are 'not cool and i don't like them'
I just don't even
Dr. Buni
Member
The vast majority of posts on GAF add nothing to the site. Should people stop posting then?
I don't see the problem with the thread and yes, I think that picture is pointless and add nothing to the discussion.
hey op
its okay,
I liked Zelda link to the past
purely because it was a action rpg, and it was one of the first (sorta) open type worlds i ever played. lots of exporing too.
(i don't think bards tale on the comodore 64 counted?)
I also enjoyed secret of mana similar game imo
have you tried Darksiders? or 3d dot hero you might like those, maybe more Darksiders
anyways
hope you find something you like
@Wreck
its okay,
I liked Zelda link to the past
purely because it was a action rpg, and it was one of the first (sorta) open type worlds i ever played. lots of exporing too.
(i don't think bards tale on the comodore 64 counted?)
I also enjoyed secret of mana similar game imo
have you tried Darksiders? or 3d dot hero you might like those, maybe more Darksiders
anyways
hope you find something you like
@Wreck
sixteen-bit
Member
I don't like most Zeldas, but Link's Awakening was tight.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
This image is overused and frankly dumb to post in a place where the entire point of the site is for people to voice their opinions.
Different strokes for different folks.
If your response to a thread is simply OK, it would be better if you didn't post at all, because you're obviously not here for a discussion.
As far as the OP, I'm with you. I've tried multiple Zelda games and they don't interest me. I couldn't get very far in Okami without getting bored either. I like the character and enemy designs in Zelda, but for some reason the series has never clicked with me over any of it's iterations. The closest I got to really enjoying a Zelda game was Minish Cap, and I didn't even end up beating that.
Maybe if you only read the thread title. The actual post is OP wondering if he's missing something about the series that makes every one else love it. Not to mention there can be valuable discussion about why someone might NOT like a series. Not every thread has to be about how great a popular series is. You can also examine what you see as flaws in things that are popular and still have the discussion be worthwhile.
And if you want to get into the "What does it add to NeoGAF" discussion, you could easily say that about 95% of the posts made here at any time. Including the one I'm quoting right now.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
There comes a time when a person has to understand taste is truly subjective.
The OP doesn't like Zelda because, among other reasons, they don't like "elves and high fantasy". That's fine. That doesn't mean they're not cool for everyone.
I don't like football at all, period. I also don't like opera and I don't like historical romance. I don't like wasabi, and I don't like monster truck rallies. That doesn't mean there's something wrong with those things, or wrong with my understanding of them. I know what they are, I've tried them all, turns out I'm not built to be turned on by them.
Sometimes a person has to accept that something isn't for them, and there's no mystery to be solved as to why it isn't.
The OP doesn't like Zelda because, among other reasons, they don't like "elves and high fantasy". That's fine. That doesn't mean they're not cool for everyone.
I don't like football at all, period. I also don't like opera and I don't like historical romance. I don't like wasabi, and I don't like monster truck rallies. That doesn't mean there's something wrong with those things, or wrong with my understanding of them. I know what they are, I've tried them all, turns out I'm not built to be turned on by them.
Sometimes a person has to accept that something isn't for them, and there's no mystery to be solved as to why it isn't.
And what exactly added your comment? Just saying.
Anyway, I don't like GTA games and yet I tried to play most of them. I even completed the first GTA III and played through most of Vice City. I find the "open world" stuff boring, I need to have a mission so outside of the main story I usually don't like going around wrecking havoc.
I'll buy GTAV on PC XD
But I'm ok with OP not liking Zelda, even if it's my most loved series and the main reason I buy Nintendo hardware. It's not like it's a personal offense.
You just need to be more open-minded. Do you feel offended if someone doesn't like a series you love instead?
That's the kind of post I was looking for. Makes sense.
It's my fav. I do a marathon of the extended versions at least once a year.
You don't have to like Zelda. Just like whatever you want to like. A few stupid people will care and try to change your opinion, but most people will just say "ok."
But come on. Don't lie to make your point. That's obnoxious and kind of insulting.
The dungeons are not never-ending (they actually have pretty simple to understand pacing and progression), and they obvious don't all look the same. Outside of the early games which were on very limited hardware, there's tons of variety in the dungeons. I'd post pictures, but I honestly don't need to.
Don't boil the games down to "running around poking chickens" while neglecting to comment on what the games are actually about. What about all those times you run around fighting monsters with your sword, or shooting the bow, or solving puzzles, or the many other things you do in the game?
And you can understand why people like it, even if you say you can't. You have a character that goes on an adventure with weapons and other gadgets to fight monsters and bad guys and explore unknown places. People like that and you know it. Hell, you like it to. You just prefer it in a different setting (Super Metroid and the Batman: Arkham games).
So if you want people to thoughtfully explain why they like it (even though you don't need them to because you like similar things), then you need to take the time to thoughtfully explain why you don't like it, rather than just posting a few untrue "examples" and saying "fantasy is lame".
But come on. Don't lie to make your point. That's obnoxious and kind of insulting.
The dungeons are not never-ending (they actually have pretty simple to understand pacing and progression), and they obvious don't all look the same. Outside of the early games which were on very limited hardware, there's tons of variety in the dungeons. I'd post pictures, but I honestly don't need to.
Don't boil the games down to "running around poking chickens" while neglecting to comment on what the games are actually about. What about all those times you run around fighting monsters with your sword, or shooting the bow, or solving puzzles, or the many other things you do in the game?
And you can understand why people like it, even if you say you can't. You have a character that goes on an adventure with weapons and other gadgets to fight monsters and bad guys and explore unknown places. People like that and you know it. Hell, you like it to. You just prefer it in a different setting (Super Metroid and the Batman: Arkham games).
So if you want people to thoughtfully explain why they like it (even though you don't need them to because you like similar things), then you need to take the time to thoughtfully explain why you don't like it, rather than just posting a few untrue "examples" and saying "fantasy is lame".
To add further clarification, A Link to the Past did storytelling, atmosphere and music unlike any other game I'd played before. At the time I had a C64, and while I had played games with great storytelling, like the AD&D title Champions of Krynn, or Rainbird's adventures The Guild of Thieves and Jinxter, and had also played similar action rpg's, such as Times of Lore, I had never come across so complete and polished a package before as Zelda.
That feeling of my going on an epic journey, of going through that struggle, never stopped. With each new Zelda game, it starts again. Every time I hear the main theme I get a shiver of thrill down my back. Hell, each time I hear any Zelda jingle, a rush of memories come back to me. The genius of Koji Kondo is, like so many C64 musicians I could name, he worked within the limitations of the eight and sixteen bit machines to create some of the most memorable tunes in gaming.
I could go on for hours about why I love Zelda, but I think I've covered the important bits
thechristoph
Sir!
I really disagree with you. When a thread is posted for nothing but attention seeking and asking people to validate a negative opinion, the comic is wholly appropriate. "ok" should be the only post in this thread. Good for you, you don't like Zelda. ok. I don't like God of War, Call of Duty, or any car racing game. ok. I don't go posting threads asking for validation.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
I think the question here isn't so much "how many zelda games have you played?" as much as it is "how far have you played any of those zelda games?".
Because if thats your takeaway of the series, it sounds a lot like "gave up playing during the tutorial area"
I grew up on LOZ from the first one on NES. The pinnacle was ALTTP.
During the 3D era they have become increasingly stale retreads.
I have high hopes for the upcoming one, though, sounds like they're ready to make changes.
Your post was more useless than the image reply. And, by the way, backseat modding can actually get you banned.
During the 3D era they have become increasingly stale retreads.
I have high hopes for the upcoming one, though, sounds like they're ready to make changes.
Your post was more useless than the image reply. And, by the way, backseat modding can actually get you banned.
Letterbomb
Banned
Your own post didn't add anything to the discussion either. The pic is fine. Gets a good laugh outta me and conveys the point that people are gonna have opinions, and others aren't gonna care either way.
Can we all stop hounding the guy for posting a perfectly OK pic to use? There's a difference between trash posting/spam posting and posting with a single picture. "Different strokes for different folks" is what he wanted to say, and the picture helped his point. Weird how you guys jump on him like that.
OP, LoZ is extremely boring to me. Probably my least favorite Nintendo IP to be quite honest. I don't even like the character designs for the most part. Ganondorf's story (according to Wind Waker) was just about the only thing that intrigued me. Everything else feels extremely generic where the story is concerned.
The gameplay...just not my cup of tea. It's a bit too slow for me. I think the series has pacing issues as a whole. Takes too long to pick up and get things going.
I've played OoT, WW, ALBW.