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I don't like Zelda
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Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Hmmmmm something tells me you've never really given each game a fair shot. Especially with the never ending dungeons comment. For example most dungeons in twilight princess don't take more than an hour or so to finish, only a few last longer than that.
The fun in Zelda is just losing yourself in the game, the feeling of going on a basic "save the kingdom" quest has its own charm.
You may have tried a lot of zelda games but have you really actually sat down with them? I can get not liking zelda, but your reasoning makes me feel like you've never really played past the 1st or 2nd dungeon with any of them.
megatronium
Member
I don't like 3D Zeldas.
How many dungeons constitutes having "really played" a Zelda?
The problem here is that the image works so well in this context. Seriously, like, great, you don't like Zelda, carry on.
OT: It's really too bad you don't like Zelda, OP. When I was growing up, Zelda was a source of comfort for me and the series as a whole is immensely valuable to me to this very day.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Depends on the zelda, for example with OoT, if you don't like the game by the time you enter the forest temple as a big adult I'd wager you never will.
With Majora's Mask it's probably just the first temple because of the nature of each temple having a ton of activities to do before you get to them.
With respect to the ones that OP has played:
ALTTP you probably should play at least till you get the master sword as well.
TP only till the end of the goron mines (so the second one), just because the between dungeon activities in that game keep you a lot busier.
I can't really say for 1 and 2. Mainly because they're totally different games even if they share similar elements. 1 and 2 are generally love em or hate em games.
SoraanTribal
Member
You are now my worst enemy.
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@OP - not everyone has to like all the same things. For me, Zelda is one of my favorite series in all of gaming, so of course, I disagree with you completely, but there's nothing wrong with that. I'm sure you love games that I don't like. Zelda dungeons are the best dungeons in all of gaming.
OP : are you going to open a thread on every videos game you don't like ?...
Lol, why ? I has the same message like other people who're respecting the choice of the OT. Better this than a pointless argument.
Lol, why ? I has the same message like other people who're respecting the choice of the OT. Better this than a pointless argument.
I don't like the 3D Zelda games, but I love the top-down ones. OOT was a let down for me (and I still feel bad about that b/c Christmas and all, but at least I found out I didn't like it early enough for my mother to return it... in hindsight, should have kept it, dat CIB value).
So I'll meet you half-way OP, but for different reasons.
So I'll meet you half-way OP, but for different reasons.
Actually it's extremely fitting. If everyone on this forum wants to state out loud what he doesn't like we wont be able to keep up.
generaldane
Member
Wa...WHAT!? the thread should now be about this!!
But yeah not everyone will like everything brah personally Zelda to me is the pinnacle of game design.
Mr Fahrenheit
Member
Okay?
Different strokes for different folks. Whatever floats your boat. One mans meat is another mans poison. You don't have to like it and you don't need other people to tell you why you don't like it, if you find it boring then that's that.
Different strokes for different folks. Whatever floats your boat. One mans meat is another mans poison. You don't have to like it and you don't need other people to tell you why you don't like it, if you find it boring then that's that.
Slamtastic
Member
I enjoyed OoT, MM, and WW, but now I've moved on to TES and Darksiders for taking what I did like about the Zelda titles I played, and improving on the areas I thought were lacking. (And not introducing motion controls)
JinjoUnchained
Member
The appeal of Zelda is being thrown into a vibrant fantasy world and accumulating items and abilities to unlock that world as you go. For my money, it's the best for that kind of game. If that generic description doesn't sound like fun, then you won't like Zelda. All I ask is that you don't review the next Zelda for a major publication if your whole rationale is "elves suck"
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Sure got agendas in here all of a sudden
Beat 1/2/ALTTP, about 50% of OoT, and probably around 75% of TP.
Yes.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
It's not pointless. Talking about things you don't like about a video game series is just as constructive as talking about things you do like about a video game series. So if this thread is pointless, then every thread that's about how someone LIKES a video game series is also pointless because all they're doing is what OP is doing, but at the reverse end of the spectrum.
You know what IS pointless? Your only contribution to a conversation essentially being "OK". At that point it would have been better if the person just passed by the thread and said nothing at all. All it's doing is making me scroll more for a hollow unneeded statement that added nothing to anything.
Forums exist specifically so people can voice their opinions about what they do and do not like. That's why everyone is here. By this logic no one should voice their opinion on things that they DO like, because if they did, we wouldn't be able to keep up.
PaulBizkit
Member
I don't like Zelda either. I find it very repetitive... shield, sword, boomerang, bomb, bow... bosses that need to be hit five times... lack of story. There's not much action either.
I've played link's awakening, link to the past, OoT, Majora's a bit, wind waker, minish cap and the first part of Twilight Princess.
Never completed any of those. But i respect the franchise and what it means to the industry.
I've played link's awakening, link to the past, OoT, Majora's a bit, wind waker, minish cap and the first part of Twilight Princess.
Never completed any of those. But i respect the franchise and what it means to the industry.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
The obvious thing to do is post the pic right here, but... I'll refrain.
Seriously though, is saying you don't like something really thread worthy? I mean, that's great. We all like and dislike different things. The OP is basically just a stream of opinions that really don't work as a jumping off point for good discussion.
I mean, "Elves and high fantasy stuff aren't cool." OK? I think they're pretty cool. What more can be said?
outunderthestars
Banned
What is there to add? Should we all make threads because we don't like a series?
On topic, I generally only like the 2D Zelda's as the 3D versions don't seem to have as good of an open world to explore.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Then I'm genuinely bemused at your series summary.
backseat modding adds fucking nothing to the discussion too.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
There are plenty of threads about how people like certain video game series and people don't go into them complaining that they're not thread worthy. Why is saying you like something thread worthy, but talking about how you don't isn't?
And if you would have actually read the thread you would have seen OP responding to people who have continued the conversation in ways he intended. The thread is about more then "I don't like Zelda." he also asks what other people see in the series, why they enjoy it, and why they think he doesn't.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
OK, OK, let me take a look.
OK.
They look and feel the same to me. An hour on one "stage" is a long time.
I love Zelda, but I'm not a huge high fantasy fan either. I much prefer dark fantasy. Majora's Mask and Wind Waker probably avoid the high fantasy themes the most.
Majora's Mask is quite a dark game and it relies more on character interaction than most other Zelda games.
Wind Waker is not dark at all, quite the opposite. I would still hesitate to call it high fantasy, it's much more themed around pirates and ocean exploration.
Never play a rogue-like.
Majora's Mask is quite a dark game and it relies more on character interaction than most other Zelda games.
Wind Waker is not dark at all, quite the opposite. I would still hesitate to call it high fantasy, it's much more themed around pirates and ocean exploration.
Never play a rogue-like.
Foxtastical
Member
I love that image. Unfortunately some people don't understand that all this shit is just opinion. And everyone's perspective is different. Different strokes yo.
Apex_Predator
Neo Member
Different strokes for different folks. I personally don't like many FPS games and am gradually losing interest in HALO. I also despise Destiny which seems to be a hit with many of my friends. Bought the PS4 Destiny bundle specifically for the white console, played destiny for a few days and then traded it in towards Mordor. Totally don't regret it. Got $45 for it and only had to pay like $13 bucks for a new copy of Mordor.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
The Zelda games are usually pretty good at mixing up how dungeons play, in a way that -say - the Elder Scrolls games don't.
SuperDowns
Banned
ThatRandomCliff
Member
If you don't like something then, well, you don't like something! Everybody has dislikes. There is nothing wrong with that.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
There are also people he's actually conversing with and learning things about the Zelda series from as well. But feel free to continue to ignore that portion of the thread. Or just leave, since you don't seem to want to be in here or discuss anything but the fact that you think this thread isn't needed, even though you just could have ignored it in the first place and never had to look at it at all.
At the very least, if people disagree with someone, they should explain to them why, not post some shitty useless picture that doesn't further the discussion in any way. And if the only sentiment you have towards the thread is "OK, you have an opinion." then why post in the thread in the first place?
ShinMaruku
Member
Nothing wrong with not liking a thing. The only issue is if certain parts of the market thinks that's the way to go then you could not be served by the market. I sure was hell don't like GTA or elder scrolls and that's fine. It saves me some money.
SeventhSon
Member
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
And you are adding to the conversation with your last few posts... in what way again? I'm not going to keep responding to you, as I have a feeling this will just feed a pointless cycle of posturing, which you seem more than willing to hypocritically sustain.
The irony is, I don't wholly disagree with the OP. I don't dislike the Zelda series, like he seems to, but I certainly don't think it's the best in the business like so many others do. I just don't think that the way he presented his opinion in the OP was a good jumping off point for discussion.
radioactivez0r
Member
OP, have you played and/or enjoyed "Zelda-like" games commonly mentioned, such as Darksiders or Okami? They maintain the progression but are decidedly un-Zelda in style and presentation. Curious if it's the world you dislike, or the game style. In which case, no biggie.
I love Darksiders though, so if you don't we can't be friends.
The only Zelda game I've played is ALBW and I'm currently on the final dungeon. For me the only enjoyable moments in the game are discovering new locations and dungeons, and solving puzzles. And the music...I really like the music. The visual polish and aesthetics are quite evident too.
Everything else feels mediocre and basic. None of the characters I've encountered are interesting. The items are only fun to use the first time. After that they're only a means to an end. Outside of the bosses, combat lacks any challenge and the enemies are forgettable. And the world feels "dead"--every creature I encounter is just a clone of the creature before it that I killed the last time I entered the area. It's like walking through a theme park. Nothing inherently wrong with this video game trope except that it reinforces the weakness of the combat by making every encounter feel like a chore.
If anyone has gotten into Zelda recently and have enjoyed it without the benefit of nostalgia I'd like to hear about it. Maybe I just started with the wrong game.
Everything else feels mediocre and basic. None of the characters I've encountered are interesting. The items are only fun to use the first time. After that they're only a means to an end. Outside of the bosses, combat lacks any challenge and the enemies are forgettable. And the world feels "dead"--every creature I encounter is just a clone of the creature before it that I killed the last time I entered the area. It's like walking through a theme park. Nothing inherently wrong with this video game trope except that it reinforces the weakness of the combat by making every encounter feel like a chore.
If anyone has gotten into Zelda recently and have enjoyed it without the benefit of nostalgia I'd like to hear about it. Maybe I just started with the wrong game.
Well I have nothing against motion controls, but you must be hyped that the Zelda U wont have them?
There is actually nothing wrong with not liking Zelda. There are folks who don't like Mario, don't like Final Fantasy, don't like Call of Duty, don't like Assassin's Creed, and believe it or not... don't like The Last of Us or the Uncharted series. The nice thing about the game industry is there are different strokes for different folks. It's perfectly okay to not like a big gaming series, but I totally understand why you want to like it. Why you tried. For those that do enjoy it, for many it impacted their lives directly or you see the joy they are getting out of just talking about the series and you want to be part of that. You want to feel that excitement or feel that involved in the series. However, sometimes it just isn't for you.
As for what you're missing out on, it's hard to say because you've tried to like the series as much as you have. Elves aren't really what it's about, nor is grass, jars, or chickens. While series staples, no game is actually about those aspects.I can best sum up Zelda as this:
It's about being a kid that against all odds defeats an evil and saves the princess. It's the ultimate little boy child fantasy as it were, saving the girl and defeating something that would otherwise make you crap your pants. It's about going on those adventures you always see in those shows you watch and actually experiencing it yourself and making an impact. The stories are simplistic, the puzzles are generally not that difficult, and the combat/dungeons are always a "like or dislike" ordeal, but at the end of the day it's about being a kid and going out on an adventure. Going back to the story - while simplistic, they often offer life lessons and depending on the game and when you play it, these life lessons have helped many get through different tough parts of life.
In many ways, Zelda is really designed for children with a massively appeal to adults, especially adults who grew up with the series. I liken it to how Neverland was portrayed in the show Once Upon a Time, where it only existed because it was a child's fantasy/dream that he wanted to make a reality as an adult. That's what Zelda is.
It's a pretty hard series I would guess to get into if you didn't grow with the series itself. It's also not for everyone - no game really is.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
I already added my input to the thread. The thread is never going to take off the way it's supposed to anyway because now it's just going to be full of people who are going to complain about something they had the option to never look at in the first place. What I'm adding to the conversation now are rebuttals to bad arguments that will hopefully either get people to stop complaining and post on topic, or leave the thread so that the people who want to can.
As far as your last paragraph, that's a perfectly fine opinion to have. If everyone voiced their opinion in that way instead of using and quoting pointless memes that don't detail their opinion in any way, maybe the thread could have a clearer purpose and be something even the complainers see as worthwhile.
People keep calling the OP pointless (Even though other people have come in and had a discussion about what's in the OP), but I can't think of anything more pointless then going out of your way to complain about something you never had to deal with in the first place. All it does is shit up the discussion for people who do care.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Millions
Qualifying Zelda as high fantasy is a bit of a stretch. Also, outside of certain classic titles, I'm not sure that I'd agree with your assessment on the dungeons looking the same (or "never ending"), either; the different aesthetics are one of the series' draws for me.
Maybe it's just not for you. That's fine. You don't have to be into everything that is popularly regarded as "good."
Maybe it's just not for you. That's fine. You don't have to be into everything that is popularly regarded as "good."
Pro from Dover
Member
OP, you're not a bad person for not liking something that is popular. Nothing needs explained to you and there is nothing you need to understand. It's all totally groovy and I'm done paying attention to you 