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Why isn't Nintendo making MORE games like Splatoon?

C

CartridgeBlower

Member
By that I mean, from everything they've shown so far, this game seems to encapsulate everything that makes Nintendo great --

1) Cool new gameplay
2) Colorful, fun graphical style
3) Charming as hell
4) Introduction of new 'characters'
5) A new IP that's also a system exclusive!

Innovate and create. Isn't that what Nintendo always used to do? Just like they're doing here with Splatoon.

So why is it such a rarity then that we get a game like this from them? Why not more games like this if they are still so capable of doing it? More new IPs? More new characters? More experimentation?

It seems to be going over well so far, right? People seem to be excited from what I can tell.

So can we expect more of this Nintendo...please...?
 
S

Sendou

Member
They claim they are.

Splatoon and the three prototypes are the first games to emerge from Garage, a new Nintendo development programme set up last year in which developers break off into small teams and work on new ideas. "There are increasing numbers of young staff at Nintendo's development studios these days," Miyamoto says, "and these young guys really want to express themselves." Work is done during office hours, but he compares Garage to an after-school club, in spirit if not in schedule. "Class time's over: they gather together and think about new projects completely apart from their everyday business assignments. When all of those projects have advanced to a certain stage, we gather together and exchange opinions on the outcome of each of them, and together we decide which ones should continue. We may have shown several software titles at E3 [that came from Garage], but there are many others in development too.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=127423232
 
G

georly

Member
New Ips with new gameplay are risky. You could potentially have them bomb and then you invested a lot of money into something that wasn't a sure-thing.

Why doesn't ubisoft NOT make assassin's creed every year? Why doesn't Activision not make COD/Skylanders every year? They're risk averse.
 
Z

zruben

Banned
Nintendo is probably the company who has released more IP's in the last 10 years... sadly, people only buy the main franchises...

just to mention a few:
-Trace Memory
-Drill Dozer
-Geist
-Chibi-Robo
-Hotel Dusk
-Disaster
-Endless Ocean
-Captain Rainbow
-Zengeki something
-Flingsmash
-Steel Diver
-The three "Operation Rainfall" RPG's
-Pushmo
-Dillon
-Wonderful 101

and I'm sure I'm missing a lot.
 
R

random25

Member
Have you heard of The Wonderful 101?

1) Cool new gameplay
2) Colorful, fun graphical style
3) Charming as hell (depends on your preference of charming lol)
4) Introduction of new 'characters'
5) A new IP that's also a system exclusive!
 
D

Dragoon En Regalia

Member
Many games like Splatoon get prototyped at Nintendo all the time. So they likely chose this idea out from the herd because it would both cater to necessary markets and give employees something really unique to work on.
 
H

HawthorneKitty

Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
random25 said:
Have you heard of The Wonderful 101?

1) Cool new gameplay
2) Colorful, fun graphical style
3) Charming as hell (depends on your preference of charming lol)
4) Introduction of new 'characters'
5) A new IP that's also a system exclusive!
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6) Sold like shit
 
S

Sendou

Member
zruben said:
Nintendo is probably the company who has released more IP's in the last 10 years... sadly, people only buy the main franchises...

just to mention a few:
-Trace Memory
-Drill Dozer
-Geist
-Chibi-Robo
-Hotel Dusk
-Disaster
-Endless Ocean
-Captain Rainbow
-Zengeki something
-Flingsmash
-Steel Diver
-The three "Operation Rainfall" RPG's
-Pushmo
-Dillon
-Wonderful 101

and I'm sure I'm missing a lot.
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Then remove ones not made by EAD. It's not really moving goal posts either I just hope you see the difference between EAD (Splatoon) and the titles you listed above.
 
C

Canon

Banned
random25 said:
Have you heard of The Wonderful 101?

1) Cool new gameplay
2) Colorful, fun graphical style
3) Charming as hell (depends on your preference of charming lol)
4) Introduction of new 'characters'
5) A new IP that's also a system exclusive!
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Exactly. People bitch and moan about this but don't even support the games that come out.
 
3

3bdelilah

Banned
It's funny that Splatoon actually started as another Mario game. Props to them for taking a little more risks. Definitely looks like a lot of fun!
 
K

Kill3r7

Member
Can we wait and see how it sells first?

I'm as excited as the next guy about splatoon but Nintendo is a business first and foremost.
 
Giolon

Giolon

Member
mrhej said:
Because nobody will buy them.
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One and done. I was going to say this.

Don't get me wrong, Splatoon looks like it might be kind of a neat distraction, but I'm expecting it to sell like crap and its online community to be non-existent after the first couple weeks.
 
kunonabi

kunonabi

Member
CartridgeBlower said:
By that I mean, from everything they've shown so far, this game seems to encapsulate everything that makes Nintendo great --

1) Cool new gameplay
2) Colorful, fun graphical style
3) Charming as hell
4) Introduction of new 'characters'
5) A new IP that's also a system exclusive!

Innovate and create. Isn't that what Nintendo always used to do? Just like they're doing here with Splatoon.

So why is it such a rarity then that we get a game like this from them? Why not more games like this if they are still so capable of doing it? More new IPs? More new characters? More experimentation?

It seems to be going over well so far, right? People seem to be excited from what I can tell.

So can we expect more of this Nintendo...please...?
Click to expand...

Nintendo never stopped as we had this all throughout the wii and ds lifespans.
 
S

samn

Member
They do bring out new IPs more often than people think, or at least facilitate them. Wonderful 101, Steel Diver, Pushmo, Code Name Steam, Bravely Default, are some recent and upcoming examples.
 
L

Letterbomb

Banned
Splatoon will sell well. No other newly introduced IP by Nintendo has had quite the reception that Splatoon did. Codename STEAM, Project Guard, Project Robot, etc. all kind of flopped--we don't hear much about them. The very same day Splatoon was announced, however, we got tons of fan art, tons of hopeful speculations, tons of interest in general. If Nintendo continues to market this and support it, the community will buy into it. It fills a genre gap in Nintendo's brand.

Throw in Amiibo support, and it'll definitely fly.

This is speculation of course. But I'd bet on this.
 
S

Sendou

Member
zruben said:
so, if it's not EAD, they don't count?
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Well I consider Nintendo (EAD+some others like Retro) above everyone else in this industry. I want to see new IP's from them instead of second class outsourced projects. Which can be fine too but let's be honest about the big differences between the two.

I just think Splatoon looks hell of a lot better and fresher than the games you listed. Yeah I know opinions and all.
 
K

Kater

Banned
Anth0ny said:
One and done.

People complain about lack of new IPs on Nintendo consoles, games like Wonderful 101 and Splatoon are made and sell 10 copies, and the cycle repeats.
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One is a game from a third party with a niche audience, the other is a game supervised by one of Nintendo's oldest creative head.

And it's not even out yet. Why do you think it will be comparable in sales and general success (creating a fanbase, etc) with W101?
 
H

hatchx

Banned
I think the OP's question could be targeted at the game industry as a whole, and the answer is obvious. New IP is a risk. It's unknown to the market, and without a name brand to attach to the box it's hard to get casual consumers attention.

Same thing with the movie industry.

I'm really excited for Splatoon and it sounds like it's right in line with Nintendo's audience. It also looks like it'll be getting a big marketing push, so I expect it to sell relatively well.
 
J

jon bones

hot hot hanuman-on-man action
Garage is Nintendo's best friend.

They're taking care to foster young talent within their ranks and it's already delivering.
 
BasilZero

BasilZero

Member
mrhej said:
Because nobody will buy them.
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This, people care about the Marios, Pokemons, Zeldas, Donkey Kongs, Kirbys, Yoshis, Smash Bros, and Mario Karts - that is more than enough to be satisifed especially with each IP having multiple games or spinoffs.

Cant blame them!
 
A

AniHawk

Member
zruben said:
Nintendo is probably the company who has released more IP's in the last 10 years... sadly, people only buy the main franchises...

just to mention a few:
-Trace Memory
-Drill Dozer
-Geist
-Chibi-Robo
-Hotel Dusk
-Disaster
-Endless Ocean
-Captain Rainbow
-Zengeki something
-Flingsmash
-Steel Diver
-The three "Operation Rainfall" RPG's
-Pushmo
-Dillon
-Wonderful 101

and I'm sure I'm missing a lot.
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2004
Daigasso! Band Brothers
platform: ds
developer: nintendo sdd

2005
Nintendogs
platform: ds
developer: nintendo ead 1

Another Code
platform: ds
developer: cing

ouendan
platform: ds
developer: inis

Brain Training
platform: ds
developer: nintendo sdd

sennen kazoku
platform: gba
developer: indieszero

nonono puzzle chalien
platform: gba
developer: creatures, inc.

chibi-robo
platform: gamecube
developer: skip, ltd.

geist
platform: gamecube
developer: n-space, inc.

the legend of the quiz tournament of champions
platform: gamecube
developer: ???

2006
odama
platform: gamecube
developer: vivarium, inc.

rhythm tengoku
platform: gba
developer: nintendo spd 1

Drill Dozer
platform: gba
developer: gamefreak

Calciobit (Nintendo Football Club)
platform: gba
developer: ???

Bit Generations
platform: gba
developer: skip ltd

Electroplankton
platform: ds
developer: indieszero

Elite Beat Agents
platform: ds
developer: inis

Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland (Spin-off IP)
platform: ds
developer: vanpool

Wii sports:
platform: wii
developer: nintendo ead 2

wii play
platform: wii
developer: nintendo ead 2

2007
wii fit
platform: wii
developer: nintendo ead 5

Hotel Dusk
platform: ds
developer: cing

2008
wii music
platform: wii
developer: nintendo ead 2

Endless Ocean
platform: wii
developer: arika

Captain Rainbow
platform: wii
developer: skip ltd

Disaster: Day of Crisis
platform: wii
developer: monolithsoft

Fossil Fighters
platform: ds
developer: red entertainment/m2/artdink

2009
Tomodachi Collection
platform: ds
developer: nintendo spd 1

Style Savvy
platform: ds
developer: syn sophia

2010
Art Academy
platform: ds
developer: headstrong games

Xenoblade Chronicles
platform: wii
developer: monolithsoft

Fluidity
platform: wiiware
developer: curve studios

FlingSmash
platform: wii
developer: artoon

Zangeki no Reginleiv
platform: wii
developer: sandlot

Line Attack Heroes
platform: wiiware
developer: grezzo

2011
Steel Diver
platform: 3ds
developer: nintendo ead 5/vitei

Pushmo
platform: 3ds eshop
developer: intelligent systems

Pandora's Tower
platform: wii
developer: ganbarion

The Last Story
platform: wii
developer: mistwalker

Sakura Samurai: Art of the Sword
platform: 3ds eshop
developer: grounding inc

2012
Dillon's Rolling Western
platform: 3ds eshop
developer: vanpool

Ketzal's Corridors
platform: 3ds eshop
developer: keys factory

Kiki Trick
platform: wii
developer: nintendo spd

Nintendo Land (Spin-off series)
platform: wii u
developer: nintendo ead 2

Sing Party
platform: wii u
developer: freestyle games

2013
HarmoKnight
platform: 3ds eshop
developer: gamefreak

The Wonderful 101
platform: wii u
developer: platinum games

NES Remix (Spin-off series)
platform: wii u
developer: nintendo ead 2

2014
Rusty's Real Deal Baseball
platform: 3ds eshop
developer: nintendo sdd

Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Spin-off Series)
platform: wii u
developer: nintendo ead tokyo 2

2015
Code Name: S.T.E.A.M.
platform: 3ds
developer: intelligent systems

Splatoon
platform: wii u
developer: nintendo ead 2
 
E

efyu_lemonardo

May I have a cookie?
what about S.T.E.A.M ?

edit: beaten.

And even AniHawk's list isn't exhaustive!

(Giftpia, Cubivore, etc, Excitebots, Mario Strikers -spinoff series, Battalion Wars, and more!)
 
Z

zruben

Banned
Sendou said:
Well I consider Nintendo (EAD+some others like Retro) above everyone else in this industry. I want to see new IP's from them instead of second class outsourced projects. Which can be fine too but let's be honest about the big differences between the two.

I just think Splatoon looks hell of a lot better and fresher than the games you listed. Yeah I know opinions and all.
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of course, I can't argue against your opinion... it's just the fact that you're calling games like W101, Disaster, Xenoblade and Hotel Dusk "second class" that made me re-realize why we can't have nice things on Nintendo consoles.

fuck.
 
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