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Destiny locks non-DLC users out from Weekly Strikes when DLC content is in rotation
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OdysseusVA
Banned
Incredible
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
They should have just made the game with a subscription fee like an MMO. The current business model they are using is stupid and not sustainable - or user-friendly. Been thinking this for a while.
Bungie should have just made that game like an MMO and use the subscription money to pump out new content more frequently. The way it is now it's really getting stupid.
Dreadnought
Member
Absolutely a shitty thing for Bungie to do
If it's as bad as the OP says, wow. What garbage. That's incredibly limiting to anyone not willing to put down an extra 30% of the price of the base game, and it's likely to only get worse with expansion 2.
Re: the 1mb download, that's because (in addition to a bunch of assets being reused from the base game) there was recently a ~2.5GB patch that added a bunch of the expansion content so that it's visible in-game to non-expansion-owners (as everybody needs to be able to see the new armor and weapons).
I didn't see Rixa's post and figured that might have been the case. But nowadays you never know. :-/
I love Destiny despite all the stuff that I really should hate. It has an indefinable something that I just can't stop playing.
But I can't bring myself to pay £20 for the DLC and after a 6 hour VoG Raid session (ran it in various forms from fresh through to various checkpoints) the other night where I walked away with fucking ass shards and a cruddy shotgun and nothing else, I'm not feeling particularly friendly towards Destiny at the moment. #forever29.
A large part of me is starting to not see the worth in playing anymore. Sometimes I feel like I'm on a grind treadmill reliant entirely on luck to get what I need and just when I start to approach an 'end game' after so much time and effort, the goalposts are shifted just out of reach.
But I can't bring myself to pay £20 for the DLC and after a 6 hour VoG Raid session (ran it in various forms from fresh through to various checkpoints) the other night where I walked away with fucking ass shards and a cruddy shotgun and nothing else, I'm not feeling particularly friendly towards Destiny at the moment. #forever29.
A large part of me is starting to not see the worth in playing anymore. Sometimes I feel like I'm on a grind treadmill reliant entirely on luck to get what I need and just when I start to approach an 'end game' after so much time and effort, the goalposts are shifted just out of reach.
Hoho for breakfast
Member
What the fuck? Like on purpose they did this? I have the season pass so it doesn't effect me personally but this is some absolute bullshit. It will effect me eventually anyway because people will see what a scam this is and stop playing.
I give it less than 24 hours before they decide this is a very bad idea and let us know they're fixing it.
I say we all stop playing until they do so. Unfucking real.
I give it less than 24 hours before they decide this is a very bad idea and let us know they're fixing it.
I say we all stop playing until they do so. Unfucking real.
This just can't be right.bigbaldwolf86
Banned
I'm not sure I understand this fully. Did they remove loot for non dlc owners and make it even harder to level up?
Edit: I see what's happening. That's pretty messed up for people who may not want to buy the dlc.
Edit: I see what's happening. That's pretty messed up for people who may not want to buy the dlc.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I don't have the game anymore so I can't check, but if the current weekly/nightfall is the new DLC Strike, the OP is being deliberately misleading about the topic title and the first point, right?
Had Bungie gone with a subscription based model, the game would not have sold nearly as much nor retained nearly as many players. If there's was significantly more game to Destiny then I can see the argument. But for what's there, I'd rather they just do this model. For what this expansion includes, the $20 doesn't bother me and I payed for it gladly. Charge me monthly for it? No.
Well yea! lol
But there *is* a solution that doesn't involve that.
That's what it sounds like it'll be like yea. Which sucks for people who want to do Strikes that week but don't have the DLC.
It would be messy if you segregated them for each DLC, but one for people with DLC and one with the base content would work. If you owned DLC, but not the right one for the current strike, then you could still at least play the base content Strike. Everybody would always be able to play a Strike any given week and people with only some of the DLC would still get to play with their paid content, just only when that content shows up in the DLC Strike rotation. Don't see that this should be a problem.
DrROBschiz
Member
They should have just taken another year and released a full game
A "what we actually pay in the end"-report would be really interesting this gen.
GuitarAtomik
Member
What the fuck? That is a huge deal for the post game. I mean, it's basically a third of the worthwhile activities in the end game. What the fuck were they thinking?
I was thinking the same thing. No one is being locked out of shipped content, they are being locked out of the weekly heroic/nightfall IF the strike in question is not the strike they own. I can understand some grievances for not offering an alternative for that specific week, but I can see why Bungie did it.
Zombie James
Banned
RandyBobandy
Banned
Haha what a shambles
They did do something similar with the Halo 3 dlc too iirc
They did do something similar with the Halo 3 dlc too iirc
So fucked up.
I turned my friends on to destiny and they were already starting to shit on it for its repetitvness. Ive been talking about how doing Strikes, although repetitive, can be fun and rewarding.
Now, I have to try and sell them on a 20 dollars expansion so that they can keep doing strikes???
Fuck you Bungie.
I turned my friends on to destiny and they were already starting to shit on it for its repetitvness. Ive been talking about how doing Strikes, although repetitive, can be fun and rewarding.
Now, I have to try and sell them on a 20 dollars expansion so that they can keep doing strikes???
Fuck you Bungie.
Q
qizah
Unconfirmed Member
It would be, though it did start last generation too.
How many expansions are coming out for this joint? Are they going to have a weekly for each iteration of new content? I don't know. I suppose they COULD do this, or they could just take the hit that this will cause for (let's be real here) a small portion of the player base and just move on.
Not even close. If viewing interest is a good metric for player interest, this game consistently outranks in broadcasters all other games except for GTAV.
I think this is what happened. Just relax and wait to see if it continues next week and then bust out the pitchforks
DrROBschiz
Member
Its not
They are using all the new stuff as the weeklies and dailes
It makes sense that it locks out non DLC owners but its also realy shitty
If they are going to split the userbase they should at least have alternate Daily/Weeklies for non DLC owners
Really limits new players playing the base game. Talk about shitty... to move the game into Expansion mode so early
FF Seraphim
Member
Unfucking Believable.... but I am going to play the wait and see to make sure Bungie isn't truly screwing people over.
They added about 4GB of content in the last two patches for the DLC rather than have one big pack for the day it launched.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
I think the whole approach on the game would have been different if it would have been subscription based. We'd have a lot more "game" by now. They would have not kept working on the new content for 3 months. There is no way in hell it took them that long to make that little amount of content they are adding now.
Bungie, if you're ready this: Just make bloody Destiny 2 subscription based.
I have no intention of buying the DLC, and I was still working my way up to try and play the strike that I'd paid for at some point before I quit (I was at upper level 25).
Now Bungie tell me to get weapons good enough to do it I'll have to grid dull bounties to get weapons for dozens more hours, won't get any random loot and will find virtually no reward for completing the original raid means no players.
Yeah, fuck them and their game. Last night I packed the disc into storage. Why the hell would I want to play something that is so actively player hostile?
Now Bungie tell me to get weapons good enough to do it I'll have to grid dull bounties to get weapons for dozens more hours, won't get any random loot and will find virtually no reward for completing the original raid means no players.
Yeah, fuck them and their game. Last night I packed the disc into storage. Why the hell would I want to play something that is so actively player hostile?
I'd also like confirmation on this because I have not read this anywhere or in any of Bungie's updates.
benicillin
Banned
This week the DLC strike is the weekly nightfall/heroic and you can't play it without the DLC, that's true. But to say that it is "now exclusive to DLC owners" is misleading because the weekly strike always rotates.
I'm also not sure what you mean by engrams are now only on the 26 strike because I played a few of the 24 strike playlist earlier and was still getting loot drops.
I'm also not sure what you mean by engrams are now only on the 26 strike because I played a few of the 24 strike playlist earlier and was still getting loot drops.
Are they just trying to extend the longevity of the game by making it harder to hit the cap? When the game first came out, it seemed like they really didn't know what they wanted their endgame to look like, so they just kinda said "eh, you can grind for loot" and that was it. I was hoping the DLC would add more interesting endgame content. Now I feel even less incentive to go back, as this feel like more of the same.