Support NeoGAF

[minx]

Wow according to PFF Donald is the best rated 4-3 DT. Everyone thought the Bears would take him and the Rams snatched him up one pick before us. Since week 5 Fuller has been one of the worst rated CBs. Fuck.

 

[Bolt Vanderhuge]

Oh.

Well he was pretty good in the CFL!

So was Trestman...

 

[eznark]

Wow according to PFF Donald is the best rated 4-3 DT. Everyone thought the Bears would take him and the Rams snatched him up one pick before us. Since week 5 Fuller has been one of the worst rated CBs. Fuck.

Didn't he get hurt?

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Arian's is a great offensive coach but this order might be too tall even for him. Cards got dealt a crappy injury hand this year

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

 

[Striker]

Wow according to PFF Donald is the best rated 4-3 DT. Everyone thought the Bears would take him and the Rams snatched him up one pick before us. Since week 5 Fuller has been one of the worst rated CBs. Fuck.

Donald and Hankins would have been incredible but I think Odell's been pretty good.

 

[bionic77]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

He never really had a stable or good offensive line while he was in Pittsburgh. And he never had a great qb in Arizona.

He doesn't give a fuck about sacks which we can argue about whether that is right or wrong but he clearly finds ways to score points in less than ideal situations.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Wow according to PFF Donald is the best rated 4-3 DT. Everyone thought the Bears would take him and the Rams snatched him up one pick before us. Since week 5 Fuller has been one of the worst rated CBs. Fuck.

I would have taken either of them over Eric fucking Ebron. Fuller will be fine, first year CBs always struggle; his initial success had a lot of luck involved. He'll be fine next year.

Donald likely wouldn't have gotten nearly as much playing time here as he's gotten with the Rams but he would have been a good pick. We're going to lose Suh or Fairley, possibly both.

 

[Godslay]

I'm not about to sit here and let you slander JC. JC is a passionate, fiery competitor. He played an entire season with undiagnosed diabetes. In other words, his alleged cantankerous, aloof, possibly assholish behavior is irrelevant because he has a strong arm and makes NFL throws. He was a great fit for Denver at the time.

Is it true that Jay refuses to run the Bears offense properly? If that's the case then coaches need to take away his privileges to audible out of playcalls. Is this an issue of bad playcalling or Jay ignoring his coaches. If it's the former then the coaches need another QB and deserve another chance IMO. If it's the later then FREEJC and let a live QB handle that offense.

It's not slander if it's true. Plus Jake the Snake should have finished that season not Cutler. Even with his struggles. I'd even take Tebow over Cutler at the QB spot right now in Denver. Tebow was a passionate competitor where Jay was what they described him as in the article I posted.

Good luck defending the back to back turnover MVP.

 

[eznark]

Told you on ebron

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

Ebron is easily the worst WR taken in the first two rounds. Stupid Lions.

 

[CrankyJay]

dat thread title tho

Edit: dammit WW!

 

[WanderingWind]

dat thread title tho

Edit: dammit WW!

lol

 

[PhoenixDark]

You know a first round TE is bad when the few fluff pieces on him in local press basically boil down to "hey, he's getting better at blocking." In December. I think Ebron will eventually be "good" - it's too early to call anyone a bust right now - but he is clearly not Jimmy Graham, and probably not Gronk. And since he's neither of those guys, why the fuck was he a top ten pick.

I'll defend him on a couple fronts I guess: he hasn't dropped passes, and he'd probably have 100 more yards if he had a better QB; Ebron is often wide open in the middle of the field, often beats his coverage...and almost never gets thrown the ball. Easy yards that good QBs take all day.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

We are all Patriot fans.

 

[WanderingWind]

We are all Patriot fans.

You keep saying this. I do not think you know what the word "fan" means. It does not mean "group of people who want to sit around and drink wine coolers and talk about Brady's hair implants."

 

[Grover Cleveland]

We are all Patriot fans.

No matter how many times you say this, it will never come true

 

[Alligatorjandro]

You keep saying this. I do not think you know what the word "fan" means. It does not mean "group of people who want to sit around and drink wine coolers and talk about Brady's hair implants."

We can talk about that and we can talk about how Brady owns the Bills.

 

[AngmarsKing701]

You keep saying this. I do not think you know what the word "fan" means. It does not mean "group of people who want to sit around and drink wine coolers and talk about Brady's hair implants."

:jnc

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

He never really had a stable or good offensive line while he was in Pittsburgh. And he never had a great qb in Arizona.

He doesn't give a fuck about sacks which we can argue about whether that is right or wrong but he clearly finds ways to score points in less than ideal situations.

Arians has only had a top 10 offense in points once in his career - 2007.

I would have taken either of them over Eric fucking Ebron. Fuller will be fine, first year CBs always struggle; his initial success had a lot of luck involved. He'll be fine next year.

Donald likely wouldn't have gotten nearly as much playing time here as he's gotten with the Rams but he would have been a good pick. We're going to lose Suh or Fairley, possibly both.

I feel vindicated for shitting on him being a top 10 pick during the draft.

 

[bionic77]

Arians has only had a top 10 offense in points once in his career - 2007.




I feel vindicated for shitting on him being a top 10 pick during the draft.

The talent on our team was clearly on the defense.

Like I said he made the best of what was available.

And say what you want but his formula worked (at least with that defense).

I can't judge him harshly about the stats on offense until I see what he does when gets all the pieces (RB, QB, o-line, TE, receivers).

 

[MechDX]

We are all Patriot fans.

You're right1 I should put on my Pats avatar.

It's Gatas fault Dutch

 

[Furyous]

I'd even take Tebow over Cutler at the QB spot right now in Denver. Tebow was a passionate competitor where Jay was what they described him as in the article I posted.

LOL No, Broncos fans would not take Tebow over Cutler and WE BOTH KNOW IT. You might take Tebow over Culter but Demaryius and the rest of the team wouldn't support that decision. Jay is the embodiment of fiery. He curses out offensive linemen on the field. He sticks his hand in their chest to prove a point. Jay is so focused on football that his press conferences scream "fuck off and let me go watch game film". Jay Cutler is needs you guys to lay off him.

Spoiler

I'm joking with all this but you brought up Tim Tebow. Are you trying to get us all stuck by lightning talking about the chosen one? You could've said Bubby Brister and I'd believe you somewhat but Tebow? Nah, can't let that one slide, LOL.

 

[TheFatOne]

LOL No, Broncos fans would not take Tebow over Cutler and WE BOTH KNOW IT. You might take Tebow over Culter but Demaryius and the rest of the team wouldn't support that decision. Jay is the embodiment of fiery. He curses out offensive linemen on the field. He sticks his hand in their chest to prove a point. Jay is so focused on football that his press conferences scream "fuck off and let me go watch game film". Jay Cutler is needs you guys to lay off him.

Spoiler

I'm joking with all this but you brought up Tim Tebow. Are you trying to get us all stuck by lightning talking about the chosen one? You could've said Bubby Brister and I'd believe you somewhat but Tebow? Nah, can't let that one slide, LOL.

I'm with godslay on this one. Jay is and has always been a dog. I'll take tebow over cutler every time. Cutler has always been a dog shit qb who benefits from a purely offensive NFL.

 

[BigAT]

I was real worried before the draft started that the Giants were going to take Ebron if he was available. Thankfully the Lions were kind enough to take that possibility out of play.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

I just realized something:

The curse of the Terrible Towel is real.

The talent on our team was clearly on the defense.

Like I said he made the best of what was available.

And say what you want but his formula worked (at least with that defense).

I can't judge him harshly about the stats on offense until I see what he does when gets all the pieces (RB, QB, o-line, TE, receivers).

Bruh, 2007 was 7 years ago.

Since that year Arians has gone to 2 Super Bowls, the Colts with Andrew Luck and became a head coach. The book on him has been written.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

If you have an iOS device pick up Crossy Road. It's a free game that's basically an "endless Frogger." Unlike most mobile games it isn't infested with pay2win mechanics and the general design is quite polished. It's a great time waster!

My high score is 321 so far. Come at me, bros.

 

[Mrbob]

Wow according to PFF Donald is the best rated 4-3 DT. Everyone thought the Bears would take him and the Rams snatched him up one pick before us. Since week 5 Fuller has been one of the worst rated CBs. Fuck.

Fuller has been playing hurt and has Mel tucker as dc. Not exactly the best combo.

 

[yankeehater]

You know a first round TE is bad when the few fluff pieces on him in local press basically boil down to "hey, he's getting better at blocking." In December. I think Ebron will eventually be "good" - it's too early to call anyone a bust right now - but he is clearly not Jimmy Graham, and probably not Gronk. And since he's neither of those guys, why the fuck was he a top ten pick.

I'll defend him on a couple fronts I guess: he hasn't dropped passes, and he'd probably have 100 more yards if he had a better QB; Ebron is often wide open in the middle of the field, often beats his coverage...and almost never gets thrown the ball. Easy yards that good QBs take all day.

Marcus Smith is a bust for sure.

 

[djplaeskool]

:jnc

Trestman and Cutler will both be on the chopping block

 

[Mrbob]

I almost rented this out of sheer morbid curiosity but decided on Edge of Tomorrow which was actually a pretty fun movie.

Edge of tomorrow is great. Way more fun than that movie should have been. One of my favorite movies of the year. Plus...Emily Blunt mmmmm.

 

[Respect]

Fun facts (Yearly Averages):

Comp %, Yards, Avg/Att, TD, Int, Rating

Jay Cutler: 61.7%, 3739, 7.2, 25, 18, 85.3

Spoiler

Brett Favre

: 62.0%, 3806, 7.1, 27, 18, 86.0

I know we live in pass happy/friendly league now, and I am by no means a Cutler supporter...just thought it was interesting.

 

[yankeehater]

So if Jpout had only played 20 years ago and won a SB he would be looked upon favorably.

 

[HoosTrax]

Cutler getting benched for Clausen...lol.

Have to say though, watching that MNF game -- I don't think I've ever seen an NFL QB looks so listless and uninspired in his body language. Where do the Bears get their leadership from, considering Urlacher is long gone and the QB is usually the one seen rallying the troops before the game.

 

[MechDX]

Keenum likely to start over Lewis on Sunday. Hope he tears up the Ravens defense and after the game walks up to Kubiak and says " Fuck you and Schaub!"

But if he does win all that Keenum is the future shit will start again. Just fucked either way

 

[ShaneB]

This is me with every game now.

Well I'm 99% there since Madden is all I play really.

I realized this two years ago

You're a wise man. It's not the game I hate, I'm just a terribly sore loser in franchise when the games mean something. I need to stick to just random games here and there. Ah well.

My last day at work until Jan 6th. I'm phoning this crap in and praying this day goes by fast. Excited to be flying home tomorrow afternoon.

 

[brentech]

This week, we turn to the top candidates for Defensive Player of the Year:

1. J.J. Watt, Texans defensive end: This is the easiest slot to rank all season. Watt is threatening to become the first defensive player to win the MVP award since Lawrence Taylor in 1986. He consistently stuffs the boxscore like no defensive lineman we have ever seen, including transcendent Hall of Famers Reggie White and Bruce Smith. Keep in mind: boxscores are as unfriendly to 3-4 defensive ends as any position on defense, failing to register stops in the run game, batted passes and quarterback hurries -- three areas in which Watt impacts the game like no other player.

"What J.J. is doing is remarkable and he should be considered for MVP. Not defensive MVP, but MVP. He's had that kind of year," Smith testified this week. "If (the Texans) were performing well offensively, it would be hands down for me that he should win both MVP and defensive MVP."

2. Justin Houston, Chiefs linebacker: Tied for the NFL lead with 17 sacks, Houston is averaging more than one per game going back to the start of the 2013 season. Watt is the only player with more total sacks, hits and hurries than Houston's 77 this season. He carries Kansas City's defense in the same way that Jamaal Charles shoulders the offense.


3. Von Miller, Broncos linebacker: Miller is viewed by casual NFL fans as a pure pass rusher. That's a mistake. Although he harasses quarterbacks as often as any linebacker in the league, he's also one of the rare edge rushers to consistently shut down the run game. Miller is one of the main reasons the Broncos' run defense is sporting one of the 10 best run defense metrics of the past 25 years, per Football Outsiders.

4. Richard Sherman, Seahawks cornerback: NFL Media's research department tells us that Sherman has the lowest opposing passer rating among cornerbacks (minimum 200 targets) over the past 20 years, narrowly edging the latter half of Hall of Famer Deion Sanders' career. According to Pro Football Focus, Sherman's rating has peaked at a Blutarsky-esque 0.0 over the past five weeks, coinciding with the Legion of Boom's rise to the top of the NFL's defensive rankings.

5 and 6. DeAndre Levy / Ndamukong Suh, Lions linebacker / defensive tackle: It's impossible to choose between Levy and Suh as the most valuable on Detroit's defense that leads the NFL in points allowed. For that matter, breakout star Ziggy Ansah and the safety tandem of Glover Quin and James Ihedigbo deserve recognition of their own. Levy has been perhaps the most complete linebacker in the league, going sideline-to-sideline tracking down the run, covering tight ends and scatbacks and making plays behind the line of scrimmage. Often the best player on the field, Suh is about to surpass Watt as the highest-paid defensive player.


7. Darrelle Revis, Patriots cornerback: The Patriots rank second only to the Rams in Football Outsiders' metrics over the past six weeks, due in large part to Revis' excellence. Even if he's not quite the comprehensive shutdown force he was with the Jets, Revis has been the best player on a surprisingly strong New England defense.

8. Gerald McCoy, Buccaneers defensive tackle: McCoy would be higher on the list if not for the fact that he's going to end up missing three games and parts of two others due to injury. When he's on the field, McCoy ranks with Watt as the most disruptive interior pass rushers in the league.

9. Calais Campbell, Cardinals defensive end: Campbell was left off last year's Pro Bowl roster as well as the offseason's Top 100 Players of 2014 list despite being of the league's best players a year ago. He has been just as impressive this season, leading a front seven that has remained ferocious despite the considerable losses of Daryl Washington, Karlos Dansby and Darnell Dockett.

10. Fletcher Cox, Eagles defensive end: We noted on a recent edition of the Around The NFL Podcast that Cox has been one of the three or four most dominant defensive players in the league over the past month. He and Watt have been the NFL's most complete defensive lineman in the second half of the season.

Honorable mention: Elvis Dumervil, Mario Williams, Marcell Dareus, Luke Kuechly, Earl Thomas, Michael Bennett, Bobby Wagner, Antoine Bethea

.

 

[MechDX]

Chiefs ever resign Houston? Will he be a FA or will they franchise him ?


Edit: RT @SportsCenter: Crazy Stat of Day: Jay Cutler is making $22.5 million this year, more than Wilson, Luck, Rodgers, Newton, Sanchez COMBINED

Lol Bears

 

[jbug617]

You're right1 I should put on my Pats avatar.

It's Gatas fault Dutch

You better not.

 

[MechDX]

You better not.

Then get Gata under control

 

[shadyspace]

Edit: RT @SportsCenter: Crazy Stat of Day: Jay Cutler is making $22.5 million this year, more than Wilson, Luck, Rodgers, Newton, Sanchez COMBINED

Lol Bears

How the fuck did this happen?

 

[ShaneB]

Chiefs ever resign Houston? Will he be a FA or will they franchise him ?

Haven't resigned yet =( Given the year he is having, I know the price is now going up and up.

 

[BigAT]

How the fuck did this happen?

It's what happens when you give a quarterback an extension in a year that he wasn't even the best QB on your own roster.

I'm not saying McCown hasn't stunk it up with the Bucs or that the Bears should have extended him instead, but the fact that McCown had a better season under center than Cutler should have been a sign.

 

[ActStriker]

Then get Gata under control

When is he meeting up with his cousin again?

 

[Striker]

Chiefs ever resign Houston? Will he be a FA or will they franchise him ?


Edit: RT @SportsCenter: Crazy Stat of Day: Jay Cutler is making $22.5 million this year, more than Wilson, Luck, Rodgers, Newton, Sanchez COMBINED

Lol Bears

Houston's a FA, and is gonna get paid.

 

[Zeke]

So dunkin donuts has pretty damn good breakfast. Got sausage egg and chesse croissant and coffee, pure heaven.

 

[xnipx]

Chiefs ever resign Houston? Will he be a FA or will they franchise him ?


Edit: RT @SportsCenter: Crazy Stat of Day: Jay Cutler is making $22.5 million this year, more than Wilson, Luck, Rodgers, Newton, Sanchez COMBINED

Lol Bears

Why are cam and Sanchez in that sentence? Lol

 

[dionysus]

Chiefs ever resign Houston? Will he be a FA or will they franchise him ?


Edit: RT @SportsCenter: Crazy Stat of Day: Jay Cutler is making $22.5 million this year, more than Wilson, Luck, Rodgers, Newton, Sanchez COMBINED

Lol Bears

This is not true.

Rodgers and Cam alone make more. Rodgers at 17.5 and Cam at approximately 7. At least that is their cap hit. Contracts can be structured such that the actual money paid that year varies. What is important is the cap hit.

Edit. That is what they are doing, comparing contracts with big signing bonuses to Cutlers which has no signing bonus.

Edit2. And Cutlers cap hit this year is only 18.5 which basically matches his salary.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

Told yall brahs the Jimmy Clausen era is starting again. Thought he had a chance to unsure came though. Jay will suffice.

 

[djplaeskool]

Edit: RT @SportsCenter: Crazy Stat of Day: Jay Cutler is making $22.5 million this year, more than Wilson, Luck, Rodgers, Newton, Sanchez COMBINED

Lol Bears

...Wow...

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Just a reminder that the defense isn't being benched