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Rumor:Ubisoft showed Unity,Victory,AC VII locations back in 2013, Japan after London?

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akidnamededdy

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brianmcdoogle said:
Barely. I'm talking multiple centuries. We can't have a game set in 1800 and then go back to a game set in 1600, or earlier than the first game. Story problems aside (lol) I just don't think customers would want it.
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Like Ubi's gonna put an expiration date on the franchise by mandating that no games shall go back in time more than X number of years. They'll do whatever they need to keep selling this game every year.
 
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Mifec

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The settings are not the problem in AC games, the boring/easy/tedious gameplay and badly written chars are, Unity looked great but that's all it had going for it honestly.

I could care less what the setting is if the gameplay isn't fixed.
 
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CrazyDude

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Mivey said:
Oh, right. Well then, I find the "pure" feudal society far more outlandish, therefore, interesting. Especially when you consider that Japan was (pretty much) isolated from the rest of the world. For 200 years.

Also they would just rip-off The Last Samurai, if they went with the meji period, wouldn't they?
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Who says the main character can't be Japanese?
 
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takoyaki

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(Pre-/Post-)Meiji would make a lot of sense. It would mean lots of guns, the classic AC "clash of cultures" and some recognizable historical figures like Sakamoto Ryouma or the Shinsengumi.

If Japan really is the next setting for AC, I'd expect the game to be pretty similar to Ryu ga Gotoku Ishin in setting and story.

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Einhander

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That would be pretty god damn awesome. Let's do it, Ubi. This'll be the west's revenge against Japan for not localizing Yakuza Kenzan & Ishin!

I've treated Assassin's Creed installments like they were Call of Duty games, whereas, I feel obligated to play every new AC. I'm currently playing AC Unity and AC Liberation, and I haven't played AC Rogue yet. I've beaten AC1-4, AC Brotherhood, and AC Revelations.
 
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Stereogatari

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The 2D AC China game looks interesting to me. I've never been able to get into the main games, so I'd prefer if Japan is used for another one of those 2D style games. Assuming the 2D game turns out to be good.
 
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oti

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Seeing how Ubi assassinated the modern day plot (see what I did there, I'm fun at parties) Ubi should feel free to go back in time. That's why Ancient Greece will be next.

Hail Zeus!
 
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JumpJeff84

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Random fun fact about the Victory leak to Kotaku: I have a buddy who works for Ubi Montreal and he was telling me that they caught the employee who leaked the info and assets about the London game. They were pissed. Sent out an email to the whole company .
And due to the fact that the dude had signed all sortsa NDA stuff as an employee, he was criminally charged as well as fired. They don't play around.

Just thought it was interesting, seeing as how some people were spreading the rumor that Ubi's top brass intentionally leaked the Victory stuff to take attention off of Unity's problems.
 
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Bricky

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While the obvious first reaction to this would be 'That is Assassin's Creed Chronicles: China' I doubt they'd feature some small spin-off game on a piece of concept art that is clearly only listing main entries otherwise.

I'm not someone to easily believe theories like this on the internet, but it honestly sounds legit. Besides, it's not like Ubisoft has been very secretive about their AC settings anyway. They've hinted at possible future settings in subtle ways before.

Whoompthereitis said:
Random fun fact about the Victory leak to Kotaku: I have a buddy who works for Ubi Montreal and he was telling me that they caught the employee who leaked the info and assets about the London game. They were pissed. Sent out an email to the whole company .
And due to the fact that the dude had signed all sortsa NDA stuff as an employee, he was criminally charged as well as fired. They don't play around.

Just thought it was interesting, seeing as how some people were spreading the rumor that Ubi's top brass intentionally leaked the Victory stuff to take attention off of Unity's problems.
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That's not a very fun fact, now is it. :(

Makes sense they were pissed though, way too early for a reveal. Personally wouldn't want to risk my job over leaking an AC game of all things.
 
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Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Whoompthereitis said:
Random fun fact about the Victory leak to Kotaku: I have a buddy who works for Ubi Montreal and he was telling me that they caught the employee who leaked the info and assets about the London game. They were pissed. Sent out an email to the whole company .
And due to the fact that the dude had signed all sortsa NDA stuff as an employee, he was criminally charged as well as fired. They don't play around.

Just thought it was interesting, seeing as how some people were spreading the rumor that Ubi's top brass intentionally leaked the Victory stuff to take attention off of Unity's problems.
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Reminds me of what happened to the guy who leaked the WD beta.

bananafactory said:
Did they ever give an explanation as to why characters in Unity didn't have French accents?

Or was it some bullshit like "The Animus doesn't simulate voices in French"
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http://blog.ubi.com/assassins-creed-unity-accents/

“The idea is that the Animus is translating everything into the language you’re playing in,” Amancio explains. “That’s why, since you’re an Anglophone, you’re hearing all the dialogue and cinematics in English. It would really make no sense for there to be a French accent because that would mean that this French character is trying to address you in accented English. Everyone in the game is not trying to speak English for your benefit.”

But that raises the question: Why a British accent? The answer is simple. When trying to figure out what accent would be best-suited to the time period and the location, the development team took a tip from Hollywood. British accents, they determined, just have more of a period feel than an American accent would. It gives the distinct feeling of being set in the past in a foreign place.
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Puppet Shadow

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bananafactory said:
Did they ever give an explanation as to why characters in Unity didn't have French accents?

Or was it some bullshit like "The Animus doesn't simulate voices in French"
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I'm pretty sure I read that they focus tested people, and people didn't like French accents. I'll see if I can hunt down a link.
 
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Hawkeye 131

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Solid find but honestly after the clumsy launch of Unity I can't be bothered with the series anymore. AC3 had a pretty terrible launch too and pretty much killed any remaining interest in the universe I had left. I didn't expect much from Black Flag but to my surprise it was a really nice change of pace. The gameplay and typical "tail the enemy" mission design were pretty stale however, the story, characters and scenery were all leaps and bounds better than AC3.

As for Unity, it looked sort of like a return to form in a way. One giant open world city with tons of options to plan and execute your assassinations. Thankfully I didn't pre-order it and was patient enough for the reviews and first impressions. I just don't get how Ubisoft continually fucks up their launches, they've been making virtually the same game for the past 7 years. Sure Unity looks really good but what does any of that matter when the game barely runs and is riddled with bugs, glitches and micro-transactions ? It's nothing new though, in fact it's what's come to be expected from Ubisoft nowadays. The same old worn out game design, the most boring generic dudebro protagonists, the big maps plastered and bursting at the seams with icons, pointless collectables and radio towers to unlock more of the overcrowded forgetable map. Far Cry, AssCreed, Watch_Dogs it's all the same. Japan would be cool but even with what's been leaked and shown about Victory just confirms my suspicions that they're perfectly content with releasing the same game every year just like CoD. Assassin's Creed will die sooner or later and then they'll finally be forced to come up with some then new that that can milk for the next decade. Makes you wonder what all those developers could have come up with over the years if they weren't forced to work on Assassin's Creed games over and over and over again.
 
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bananafactory

Banned
“The idea is that the Animus is translating everything into the language you’re playing in,” Amancio explains. “That’s why, since you’re an Anglophone, you’re hearing all the dialogue and cinematics in English. It would really make no sense for there to be a French accent because that would mean that this French character is trying to address you in accented English. Everyone in the game is not trying to speak English for your benefit.”

But that raises the question: Why a British accent? The answer is simple. When trying to figure out what accent would be best-suited to the time period and the location, the development team took a tip from Hollywood. British accents, they determined, just have more of a period feel than an American accent would. It gives the distinct feeling of being set in the past in a foreign place.
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Lol. So bullshit then. Cool.

So we're going to get Japanese people speaking to us in British accents in that game? That's going to be super weird to hear/see.
 
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Elios83

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Victory will be a really interesting and important challenge for Ubisoft, it should be the first one not made by the main team in Montreal and after all the mistakes they did with Unity (I'm looking forward to read their official comments on the game performance during their upcoming fiscal results) they will need to earn their credit back but there's certainly a sense that the series is headed to its sharp decline phase anyway because the milking can't go on forever.
Will the new team have enough time to implement the lessons learned from Unity in their new game?
About future settings...after victorian London, feudal Japan and ancient Egypt are the most interesting left for me, so this is a good news.
 
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sasliquid

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I know its a common opinion but I would love Japanese setting with Unity level graphics....

As long as it didn't need a bunch of patches....

and the take out all the microtransaction stuff....

but who am I kidding I'd still likely buy it (but not new)
 
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ViciousDS

Banned
After unity.....I'm done till Japan or somewhere in eastern part of the world.....I have no interest in victory at all. I want something unique without a ton of people with guns.
 
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Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
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vareon

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Interesting find. Obviously plan might change but it looks like they planned something on Japan back then.

Not sure what to do now, though! I need two years a cycle to not get burnt out on AC, but if Japan is set after victorian London, both settings I like...
 
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bananafactory

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Crossing Eden said:
I doubt they'll go so far as to give Asian people british accents. Especially after they gave Shao Jun an accent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1geVEDN0IQ#t=224

which I'm expecting her to retain in Chronicles.
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But according to the explanation above, it makes no sense for a character to address you in accented English because they aren't doing it for your benefit.

It would really make no sense for there to be a French accent because that would mean that this French character is trying to address you in accented English. Everyone in the game is not trying to speak English for your benefit.
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So if they go and give them Japanese accents in this one then they literally just made that up.
 
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ZhugeEX

Banned
I have to admit I've been hating the modern setting recently.

If they go back to sengoku era Japan I'll be happy.
 
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Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
bananafactory said:
But according to the explanation above, it makes no sense for a character to address you in accented English because they aren't doing it for your benefit.



So if they go and give them Japanese accents in this one then they literally just made that up.
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True. I'm just not expecting them to make Asians speak with a british accent, as that would be very strange outside of a European setting. Or maybe they would go with the AC1 approach, and give the characters no accent at all like Altair. Remains to be seen, and remember that the same teams don't necessarily always make the same decisions.
 
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Sodding_Gamer

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Crossing Eden I bet this discovery almost made you implode into a new universe!

Being such a huge fan it must of been an amazing moment haha. It looks like a legit bit of teasing and I'm happy with London and Japan for sure. Can't remember the last open world game to be set in London!
 
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bananafactory

Banned
Crossing Eden said:
True. I'm just not expecting them to make Asians speak with a british accent, as that would be very strange outside of a European setting. Or maybe they would go with the AC1 approach, and give the characters no accent at all like Altair. Remains to be seen, and remember that the same teams don't necessarily always make the same decisions.
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Yeah I fully expect them to have a Japanese accent as well. I was just a bit disappointed at the voicing in Unity, Paris was so beautifully realized that I was a bit let down it didnt "feel" more French in terms of the dialogue. It's particularly baffling given how many French/French-Canadians worked on that game.
 
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Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Sodding_Gamer said:
Crossing Eden I bet this discovery almost made you implode into a new universe!

Being such a huge fan it must of been an amazing moment haha. It looks like a legit bit of teasing and I'm happy with London and Japan for sure. Can't remember the last open world game to be set in London!
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Admittedly I was expecting 2016 to be Egypt. Especially after seeing this.
http://vimeo.com/113999499
My excitement from AC titles comes much more from actually seeing them in action in a demo rather than with a leak with screenshots or concept art. The one exception being Victorian London because that was my most requested setting. Very giddy when I first laid eyes on Unity during e3.
tumblr_n6x26uRvW91s1o4ako2_500.gif

Not to mention that this may have been foreshadowing Chronicles if that building is in fact from China instead of Japan.

bananafactory said:
Yeah I fully expect them to have a Japanese accent as well. I was just a bit disappointed at the voicing in Unity, Paris was so beautifully realized that I was a bit let down it didnt "feel" more French in terms of the dialogue.
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I would've been disappointed if the actors weren't very good. Words like "arse" were strange though.
 
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Shift Breaker

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bananafactory said:
If Rogue was anything like Black Flag you played the better game.

Unity was quite disappointing.
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It was, just much smaller. I personally took that as a positive. Still large and stupidly full of items but the fact that it was broken down into three areas rather than "THE SEA" really helped things. It wasn't even like Revelations where the new stuff it added was pointless overall, the grenade launcher was actually a good addition plus you got the rope dart at a point where it wasn't after you've had all your fun with the game.

Crossing Eden said:
You may have passed on the one that had the biggest changes to the formula. Rogue was very much AC4.5.
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I guess it did change the formula of AC, but I was a little burnt out with the Ubisoft formula recently. Getting Watch Dogs at launch did no favours, nor did my play with The Crew's beta. Even Rayman Legends didn't help, with all the good that it had if I wanted to unlock all the stuff in the game I had to grind the challenges and collect loads of lums and I found that to be the opposite of fun so I left it.
 
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Yoday

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I can't wait to see what they are able to do in Japan with this new engine. Even Victory should be something truly special now that they have gotten the growing pains out of the way with Unity. Every AC on a new engine has it's issues, but every game after the first on a new engine turns out pretty damn amazing. I really hope this new engine of theirs is future proof enough that they don't have to do another mid cycle refresh of the tech, that really messed things up with AC3.
 
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keltickennedy

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Personally I can't see Japan being right after London. Why? Because they would have to make all new assets and couldn't really recycle anything. The move to London isn't because that's where the story is heading, it's because that is the cheapest place to create. Bringing over all those Paris assets and only having to slightly tweak them and create the key London structures from scatch. I think we will have at least two more AC games with a European theme till we see anything completely new for the setting.
 
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Bizzquik

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John Harker said:
Assassin's Creed Chronicles: China
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My first thought as well.

I wonder if a full-on Eastern-set AC game was proceeding, and then was canceled - with its assets used instead for a meager DLC offering in Unity. Or, more optimistically, will the DLC lead into a future installment in an interesting way....? (Probably not, as we already know that the AC in 2015 takes place on the other side of the world - London....so it would most likely be totally unrelated.)
 
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