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[freakzilla149]

It really is. I find it a really difficult to comprehend how people can have an hour long conversation on the topic of whether god exists or not, it's an open and shut case.

Whether it's the nature and the abilities of gods or the ridiculous claims, promises and demands of religions, it all screams bullshit. It's like the worlds dumbest snake oil salesman. It's so blatantly not true.

The question "is god real?" should not be asked any more, it's been settled a long time ago. Unless, God himself decides to join the debate, there's nothing left to say at this point which could ever make a case for his/her existence.

I guess I understand there my be some very good reasons in our evolutionary and cultural history for the existence of religion and that some may even find it useful to cope with the harshness of the world. It's still just so... obviously false.

EDIT: I had originally included a set of arguments on why religion is false & lack evidence in God(s) but removed it because it would be repeating other people, I'd hoped to focus on my very poorly stated position that it is very obvious that religions are false, we don't actually need hour long debates.

To illustrate my point, a simple set of questions that no religious person can adequately address:

This is a terrible argument regardless of the OP's post.
Given the parameters of what would be needed for a Christian God to exist, namely, evidence of his freeing of Israelite slaves, a great deluge wiping out all but 8 of humanity, literal fire and sulfur raining from the heavens, I feel very confidently that since all three (And these are simply three I have chosen) have been disproven by historians and scientists, such a God could not exist.

Also there is the point that by practicing your belief, you are ignoring the 1000s of other possible deities.

Now, ignoring Christianity, if we go into other interpretations of God (Giving the ability to an illiterate man to write spontaneously, turning humans into animals) it's not too hard to come to the same conclusion.

Of course there is always the simple "Who created God" or Epicurus able and willing quote but I digress.

Regarding the OP, I feel he was a bit needlessly antagonistic, but I find people repeating that foolish "Fedora" tripe even more annoying.

 

[Furio53]

and the response would be, it's a belief.

 

[elrechazado]

It's obvious because it's so obvious. You have a future on the debate team Johnny.

 

[Ishida]

The question "is god real?" should not be asked any more, it's been settled a long time ago. .

It has?

 

[Log4Girlz]

If you're a skeptic, yes.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

You feeling euphoric, OP?

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

 

[Exr]

Wow I never thought about it like that thanks for enlightening me

 

[RustyNails]

"X is wrong. Discuss"

 

[Sch1sm]

Nice to have faith in something when all else fails, OP.

 

[FZZ]

lmao

 

[SwiftDeath]

That's a very compelling argument you have there. You should write a book.

 

[Manu]

This is the most fedoratastic thread I've seen in GAF.

 

[Octavia]

Old white man in a robe 'don't touch yourself down there' god? Yeah, I'm gonna have to say nah.

Some kind of 'god(s)' that transcends our understanding (and wording of the definition), maybe even exiting outside of existence itself? Who knows. I don't.

 

[Log4Girlz]

This is the most fedoratastic thread I've seen in GAF.

I think it's fedorable.

 

[CrazyDogg77]

OP even if that's what you believe you can't say something is obvious just because it's obvious. It's circular reasoning; the type of thing you're trying to debunk by debating religion; no?

 

[Necromanti]

People tend to extrapolate our lack of knowledge and the possibility of a higher power existing as being evidence for the existence of their deity of choice. It's understandable.

 

[Blargonaut]

Do you even faith

 

[Escape Goat]

If you look at the parallels between competing religions and even religions that predate chtistianity you see many recurring themes. The flood for example. The literal or figurative consuming of the body of god. Or figure who is of a god but descends into hell to retrieve something. Joseph Campbell paints a nice theory on the hero in literature and religion.

 

[dekline]

blew the fuck out my mind, op.

 

[RadioJoNES64]

The validity of religion & God(s) is so self evident

 

[odiin]

Ah yes, what i wouldn't give to be 15, rebellious, and know everything there is to know about the world again. Let me guess, your parents just like totally understand you?

 

[Ryaaan14]

If god isn't real then explain SEC McGriddles

 

[Surface of Me]

Pics of OP:

 

[Vyroxis]

A long rambling rant just to admit being a fedora

.

 

[Dryk]

People tend to extrapolate our lack of knowledge and the possibility of a higher power existing as being evidence for the existence of their deity of choice.

I want the one true religion to have been wiped out by adherents of a surviving religion just because of how awkward that would make the rapture.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Ah yes, what i wouldn't give to be 15, rebellious, and know everything there is to know about the world again. Let me guess, your parents just like totally understand you?

You're just upset no one worships you anymore

 

[CountAntonius]

 

[Infinite Stars]

Wow, such great logic. It's been proven he's not real but you have no proof?

 

[JordanN]

Edit: Ha, title change.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Unless, God himself decides to join the debate, there's nothing left to say at this point which could ever make a case for his/her existence.

His email address hasn't been approved yet.

 

[SteveWinwood]

self evident

more like

self shredident

 

[Floridian]

Is Jaden Smith real?

 

[RustyNails]

Is Jaden Smith real?

He made the thread. Of course he's real!

 

[TheJLC]

His email address hasn't been approved yet.

He got banned actually, made the exact opposite of this thread.

 

[Hatchtag]

if god's not real explain how megaman got into smash

 

[Spineker]

You've come in about 10 years too early, OP. Bring this up again after that length of time and you might get a different response.

 

[v1lla21]

In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.

 

[DECK'ARD]

Well, that's religion told.

freakzilla149 ushers in a brave new world.

 

[dekline]

self evident

more like

self shredident

God comes in Fives

 

[Escape Goat]

if god's not real explain how megaman got into smash

Gods not real. But the devil is.

 

[Floridian]

He made the thread. Of course he's real!

How can he be real when this thread's not real?

 

[injurai]

I for one figured out pretty early on what it took to truly know something to be true, and it takes a good deal actually. As a result it took a number of years of building knowledge, rational thinking tools, and hearing arguments to actual stake a claim on the atheist side. I was ambivalent and agnostic for a long time.

Honestly I think it's pretty self-evident that we spend most of our early life working on assumption and believe that adults around us understand more deeply and with conviction. It's the process that enables learning and eventually bootstraps our ability to think rationally. OP seems to completely disregard this, and he lacks empathy to the human condition. Be an educator not a proselytizer.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

I rather like the flipside, instead of looking at the falsehood...if god(s) do exist then prove it. You know a scientific approach

It's why I prefer science over religion. The onus should be on believers to prove gods exist not for the skeptics to prove it's false.

I recall as a young kid in Sunday school literally being told to stop asking questions or pointing out things that were false/illogical. Yep it ended right there for me.

 

[EulaCapra]

He looks like Jesus and Zeus put together.

 

[Sch1sm]

He made the thread. Of course he's real!

But he didn't even say, "If God Can't Be Seen With Our Eyes And We Only See Our Reflection, Aren't We Just As Nonexistent?"

 

[curlyfriski]

In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.

Oh God.

 

[Deified Data]

Shit OP, I think you might be the first person to arrive at such a conclusion. Must have been your razor wit and keen observational skills. Have you considered sharing your findings with the scientific community?

 

[Doogington]

I suppose the real question isn't if god exists, it's if believing in him is a net positive for humanity.

 

[Fink]

You can't know he doesn't exist any more than someone can know he does exist