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The Order 1886 | Impressions Thread of not shooting the messenger.
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Mass self deception in order to be excited, pay attention.
Even as someone very much looking forward to the game, this may not want to be the expectation you have going in, graphics aside.
Although if you get a TLoU bundle and haven't played that before you should be fine.
ryanthelion123
Neo Member
Can you explain why my post made you laugh. I gave a reasonable opinion. Game is short and the gameplay is nowhere near satisfying.
plasmawave
Banned
WordsintheWater
Member
Well his post after that one seems to indicate that, unless I'm reading into it the wrong way
ryanthelion123
Neo Member
Lol so far responses have been one word response or gifs. No actual substance. I guess you can argue about the gameplay even though I think it looks very basic. But the game is short. The developers say its impossible for someone to beat it in that time, yet we saw someone do it...
And they use a comparison of MW2 ( a game mainly known for its multiplayer)
The Destiny "flop"? While many people were very vocal about there dislike of Destiny, I'd say its current 5 months in the top 10 software sales category makes the word "flop"....well, inaccurate.
Ricerocket
Member
Destiny flopped? People were deceiving themselves when they could play the beta?
WordsintheWater
Member
You watched the game being played, did not play it yourself therefore you really don't know if the gameplay is satisfying or not
deltacanuckian
Member
The bolded text is why you are getting the responses you're getting. You haven't even played the game, you're in no position to pass judgement on whether or not the gameplay is satisfying. Neither am I, but I'm not saying anything about the game either way. Trying to claim the game isn't "satisfying" while judging it off of a YouTube video is... silly, to say the least.
ryanthelion123
Neo Member
Ok, I like this, good discussion. I agree with that I haven't played the game but nothing from this game made me say oh wow to myself. I agree that statement stands on hollow ground right but my impression is that the gameplay is weak.
As for Destiny, I think we can say it underperformed critically which is what I mainly look at in a game. Also my perspective of this game is probably skewed, since all my friends hated it.
As for Destiny, I think we can say it underperformed critically which is what I mainly look at in a game. Also my perspective of this game is probably skewed, since all my friends hated it.
Nightengale
Member
The interview was conducted last week.
The playthrough happened on a... Saturday/Sunday.
The developer were addressing the 3 hour rumours, not the 5-and-half.
thursday 8am est
wont change anything. people watching on youtube are acting like they actually played the game.
Karak
Member
I honestly thought it was a joke post. Getting hard to tell in here.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Wow, Alice Coulthard is the most British looking pretty lady ever.
I'm sure her performance is fantastic and I look forward to seeing it, but I looked her up and I was like "That is the most British looking woman ever." I think it's the eyes. She has lovely eyes.
I'm sure her performance is fantastic and I look forward to seeing it, but I looked her up and I was like "That is the most British looking woman ever." I think it's the eyes. She has lovely eyes.
lol if you think the OT is actually gonna be like this, come on now
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Steve West needs to grow a mustache though :
His mustache-less visage is ruining the illusion!
His mustache-less visage is ruining the illusion!
M.W.
Member
That's when the shit show will commence. That thread will be golden.
Nightengale
Member
Edit : Forget about it.
gamechanger87
Member
Any thoughts around Sony breaking the review/street date embargo? At this point, leaving the game to the NG and Reddit masses will not have a positive impact on sales. The game has been out in review copy form since Friday, and adding a week to it will only add fuel to the fire.
Hell, the gaming websites are picking up on the 5.5hr stories because its all they can run.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-order-1886-leaks-to-youtube-in-full-playthroug/1100-6425327/
For RAD's sake, I'm worried that Sony will be wayyyy to concerned about reviewers to let reviewers break embargo. They have handled this game so oddly since previews that everything they hold back becomes more fuel for the fire. The aggressive way they are attempting to remove walkthroughs isn't working out for their benefit. They cant change the game. If reviewers are going to trash it, they should let it happen. If reviewers are going to take a more sane approach to it then let them.
This game has been handled with white gloves from the beginning and the recycling of the same demo for 8 months did it no favors. The game is already out in the retail channel. Let the reviews run and the stores sell the game. The only way you counter the tide is to let the game speak for itself.
GHG
Gold Member
I'm looking forward to it far more than I should.
So many lives will be lost.
Meanwhile I wont give a shit about the scores and play the game the next day to form my own opinion.
No, Percival is Lazarevic.
i wont be there until i finish the game
GHG
Gold Member
You act like review scores and forum opinions actually have a large impact on sales in the mass market.
They don't.
loaf of bread
Member
Ryse has a 60 metacritic. The Order will easily get more than that. Even with all this shit going around it will probably get between 75 and 85. 70 at the lowest.
It won't.
There's a joke about game length in there some where
DarthWalden
Banned
It won't, ryse was at like 60 but that would be absolutely hilarious.
gamechanger87
Member
Agreed.
illmatic22
Banned
A good number of GAFers would actually love that.
But It's not happening. 70-75 metacritc score. Take it to the bank.
Ryse, as mediocre as it is, at least had some online to content - if 1886 really is a one-play through visual orgy, then there is a possibility that the games score similarily.
Uh...some of those names are pretty big. Charlie Cutter and Yuri Lowenthal alone are amazing.
Nope can't say I recognize the name. Might recognize the voice if I heard it.
Sadly considering RYSE deserves much better.
NexusGamer
Member
Comparisons to Ryse are interesting. I can definitely see some reviews skewing towards low 70s, if not less
I still kind of want to play Ryse. It seems like it could be fun for a playthrough. Not many brawlers like that these days.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Man, it is nutty how emotionally invested some people are in the success/failure of this game.
Like, there are legitimate human emotions here.
Like, there are legitimate human emotions here.
If you can get it for a good price, you'll get a fun game with still some of the best visuals on next-gen consoles.
Fun multiplayer and a not bad length of singleplayer, cutscenes are godly too.
Nightengale
Member
Ryse and Knack deserved better scores.
No they did not. They were shallow games that rightly got scored appropriately. Atleast Knack has an excuse of being a pick and play kids game. Ryse on the other hand was pathetic.
I unfortunately don't own any platforms capable of playing it right now.
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
This game is pretty much CGI level graphics already.
I just played it on the 65" plasma at my girlfriend's and it's almost on par with one of those Assassin's Creed/The Witcher 3 trailers.
No joke. These visuals, miniscule loading times, frame rate that goes well above 30 and never dips below.
The rest of the console dev community needs to step the fuck up. RAD just elevated the shit out of the game.
I just played it on the 65" plasma at my girlfriend's and it's almost on par with one of those Assassin's Creed/The Witcher 3 trailers.
No joke. These visuals, miniscule loading times, frame rate that goes well above 30 and never dips below.
The rest of the console dev community needs to step the fuck up. RAD just elevated the shit out of the game.
Definitely agree with that, it's amazing the hate that both games received(especially RYSE) when a lot of that hate was bogus.
For instance:
1) Most enemies are just the same characters repeated.
You mean like every other game nowadays? I never heard this level of hate toward Assassin's Creed which does exactly the same thing.
2) QTEs are forced and accomplish nothing.
QTEs are completely optional except for one or two parts in the game where it is done masterfully. QTEs are also used in a way that you can choose what you'll receive on the fly for completing them successfully(health, gold, valor & etc.).
3) 900p
Still one of the best looking next-gen games on both systems.
4) Multiplayer
Unlocks, levels, moving stages, multiple opponent types and skills... oh and fun.
Have you played and beaten RYSE?
I'm really looking forward to finally seeing this game in person. I've enjoyed my PS4 for it's multiplatform performance but I really want to see what this thing can do.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Is it wrong to be so hard right now. Can't wait to see what devs are gonna be doing at the tail end of this generation,