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Bloomberg Rumor: New Rock Band Coming For Next-Gen Consoles

If DLC can be pushed forward (at least "on console family" but optimally across all consoles) I would gladly pay a "re-license" fee to make that happen.

oh and make it compatible with any and all USB microphones. It is the only thing I retained from PS3, and I would only be interested in buying a guitar...
 

SFenton

Member
Nobody wants to buy their instruments again.

You say most players bailed to 360. Uh no, sales say otherwise.

Look at total instrument sales, not just rb branded ones. Wii was the undisputed music game champion. Harmonix was blind to that last time, which is why their game was always a distant second. Are they really going to make the same mistake again?

No. They just bailed. Period.
The Wii audience collapsed in 2009. There just happened to be more players on 360 afterwards.
 
Who cares if a bunch of people bought it on Wii?

Yeah, who cares that millions of people are sitting on the required hardware! Who cares that they have no interest in buying MORE plastic instruments so they can plug it into a new console! Lets ignore them completely!

Its the same kind of thinking that tanked Harmonix when they didnt port to the Wii and saw GH run away with millions and millions of sales.
 

Fox Mulder

Member
Interested to see how it turns out.

I figured another would come quickly as they don't have much else, having to kickstart stuff and MS bailing on Kinect.
 
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Finalizer

Member
Trying to think up some new features here...

Twitch & streaming in general should be catered to. The speedrunning community has already demonstrated there's plenty of people willing to whittle away hours watching someone else repeatedly play the same thing over and over again in hopes of personally witnessing that one slightly better run out of a hundred.

But seriously though, I think there's a lot of potential there.
 
Again, most of those players bailed even before Rock Band 3 came out. Wii U base is extremely low. Next to no one is playing Rock Band on Wii.

Why put the money into developing an engine (or outsourcing, as they've always done for Wii) and licensing when the game simply won't sell?

Hell, besides Skylanders/Infinity, what high-profile games even come out for Wii anymore (let alone Wii U)?

I know that I am the exception and absolutely flying in the face of logic here, but I still play Guitar Hero (4/5) and Rock Band (1/2) with my girlfriend on PS2

It's the only console she has, but I can't believe we're the only ones
 
Is there anybody that really wants this to happen? The genre went down for a reason. I don't even think the generation that liked these games wants them back. Do they?
 

SFenton

Member
I want another DJ hero

You and me both.

Yeah, who cares that millions of people are sitting on the required hardware! Who cares that they have no interest in buying MORE plastic instruments so they can plug it into a new console! Lets ignore them completely!

Its the same kind of thinking that tanked Harmonix when they didnt port to the Wii and saw GH run away with millions and millions of sales.

Again, millions of people who have the hardware that just up and stopped buying the games six or seven iterations before they died.
Harmonix tanked compared to Guitar Hero? Must be the reason GH5 trumped Beatles in sales, and GH6 was a runaway success and obliterated RB3, yeah? Surely those games outsold Rock Band because Wii!
 

Koh

Member
If it comes out, it should just be a dlc platform. The game should be free or come with X amount of free downloads rather than preselected tracks included with the game. Crazy that im even requesting this!

Anything they can do to enable existing instruments and dlc purchases will make it that much easier to adopt.
 
Is there anybody that really wants this to happen? The genre went down for a reason. I don't even think the generation that liked these games wants them back. Do they?

You must be right. We should PM a mod to shut down this thread (and the other RB-related threads that pop up every other day) since absolutely no one is interested.

How fucking delusional does someone have to be to ask a question like that? Even if it's a popular opinion, it's still illogical and inherently wrong
 
Is there anybody that really wants this to happen? The genre went down for a reason. I don't even think the generation that liked these games wants them back. Do they?

Huh. Now that I read this thread again, you're right. Not a single person has expressed even a passing interest. Someone alert the developers QUICK before they commit to anything!
 

SFenton

Member
I know that I am the exception and absolutely flying in the face of logic here, but I still play Guitar Hero (4/5) and Rock Band (1/2) with my girlfriend on PS2

It's the only console she has, but I can't believe we're the only ones

STORY TIME

2005: Guitar Hero comes out. Brother attempts to play. Does not strum, because LOL WHO STRUMS GUITARS. Blast. Forget about it.
2006: Guitar Hero II for PS2. Play it a few times at demo kiosks, never buy it.
2007: ROCK BAND. WOW. I NEED IT. Parents buy brother and I the PS2 version, because the Wii version didn't exist yet.
EARLY 2008: Rock Band Wii announced. No details on how it's a carbon copy of the PS2 game plus five songs.
MID 2008: I receive Action Replay for PS2.
MID 2008: I desire Rock Band Wii.
MID 2008: I open my PS2, draw on the lens with a blue sharpie, blame the Action Replay.
MID 2008: Convince my parents to let me buy Rock Band Wii.
LATE 2008: PS2 is broken and must go in trash, doesn't read discs. Huh. Wonder why.

tl;dr I feel ya PS2bro, you weren't the only one

eviscerate me if you dare, i totally miss my PS2 now that I know there were games beside Crash Nitro Kart for it
 
Yeah, who cares that millions of people are sitting on the required hardware! Who cares that they have no interest in buying MORE plastic instruments so they can plug it into a new console! Lets ignore them completely!

Its the same kind of thinking that tanked Harmonix when they didnt port to the Wii and saw GH run away with millions and millions of sales.
You're missing the point. The point is that as a business decision, it doesn't matter what the sales were like on the previous platform if only a small fraction of those customers bought the next platform that you would actually be releasing on.
 
STORY TIME

2005: Guitar Hero comes out. Brother attempts to play. Does not strum, because LOL WHO STRUMS GUITARS. Blast. Forget about it.
2006: Guitar Hero II for PS2. Play it a few times at demo kiosks, never buy it.
2007: ROCK BAND. WOW. I NEED IT. Parents buy brother and I the PS2 version, because the Wii version didn't exist yet.
EARLY 2008: Rock Band Wii announced. No details on how it's a carbon copy of the PS2 game plus five songs.
MID 2008: I receive Action Replay for PS2.
MID 2008: I desire Rock Band Wii.
MID 2008: I open my PS2, draw on the lens with a blue sharpie, blame the Action Replay.
MID 2008: Convince my parents to let me buy Rock Band Wii.
LATE 2008: PS2 is broken and must go in trash, doesn't read discs. Huh. Wonder why.

tl;dr I feel ya PS2bro, you weren't the only one

eviscerate me if you dare, i totally miss my PS2 now that I know there were games beside Crash Nitro Kart for it

This story just made me feel badly for your parents.
I guess that's not really fair to say, since I don't know if they bought you the PS2 or not, but man
 

SFenton

Member
This story just made me feel badly for your parents.
I guess that's not really fair to say, since I don't know if they bought you the PS2 or not, but man

I've bought every console I own, I'd be dead if I destroyed a console my dad had :) They didn't really understand how the PS2 entries wouldn't really amount to much compared to the other consoles and told me I couldn't ever get RB on another console as it "was fine on PS2", but I had the foresight to know the situation would improve on Wii. Ended up scoring a PS2 a few years later to make up for lost time, though I definitely don't regret what I did- getting involved in customs projects absolutely got me on the road to computer science and I wouldn't trade that for anything.

Sorry for the read :p
 
I've bought every console I own, I'd be dead if I destroyed a console my dad had :) They didn't really understand how the PS2 entries wouldn't really amount to much compared to the other consoles and told me I couldn't ever get RB on another console as it "was fine on PS2", but I had the foresight to know the situation would improve on Wii. Ended up scoring a PS2 a few years later to make up for lost time, though I definitely don't regret what I did- getting involved in customs projects absolutely got me on the road to computer science and I wouldn't trade that for anything.

Sorry for the read :p

No apologies necessary! I get it-- just snap judgement on my end. As I read I just pictured some bad little kid messing things up on purpose for their own gain, with parents who felt they had to placate them... I usually like to stop and think before I leave comments, and buying most of my own gaming stuff growing up should have stayed my hand there. Working with teenagers with behavioral problems kind of puts me in a certain mindset, I guess.
 
Grain of salt, as always, and I'd be stunned if the game didn't hit 360/PS3 as well.
Sorry, Wii/Wii U guys, but I honestly don't think this will hit those consoles.

Similar games like Just Dance sells more on Wii U than on PS4 + XOne combined. And Guitar Hero and Rock Band sold very well on Wii. I doubt that there will be no Wii U version if this game ever happen.
 

SFenton

Member
Similar games like Just Dance sells more on Wii U than on PS4 + XOne combined. And Guitar Hero and Rock Band sold very well on Wii. I doubt that there will be no Wii U version if this game ever happen.

Err, do you have sales data to back that up? Because I find that extraordinarily unlikely, given that the more social experience is with the cameras on PS4/X1.

I just threw out all my plastic crap. I don't think I care. :\

looks like peripheral games are as dead to you as the last guardian amirite
 

FyreWulff

Member
Wii U has an advantage in that all the Wii instruments will work directly.

So does the PS4, at least with an addition driver to support dongles.

360 is the strange case where wired instruments are achieveable with a USB driver, but the wireless ones are SOL without a special dongle specifically to sync the 360 wireless protocol to the One.
 
Wii U has an advantage in that all the Wii instruments will work directly.

So does the PS4, at least with an addition driver to support dongles.

360 is the strange case where wired instruments are achieveable with a USB driver, but the wireless ones are SOL without a special dongle specifically to sync the 360 wireless protocol to the One.

More than that is you can still play the Wii version and it's DLC on the Wii U in Wii mode.
 
There have been rumors of the past few years that Activision are looking into reviving Guitar Hero as well. Late last year there was a report of them recording a live audience, which people think means that the old crowd will be replaced with a live audience. I'm curious as to how retailers will react to this. Weren't they stuck with a bunch of huge boxes for the instruments when this genre fell off?
 

MrMephistoX

Member
Only way I could see it catching on is if they somehow allowed custom soundtracks through a partnership with spotify or something; I'd buy it if all the DLC ported over though just because I have a kid now and eventually kids so it will be a blast.
 
There have been rumors of the past few years that Activision are looking into reviving Guitar Hero as well. Late last year there was a report of them recording a live audience, which people think means that the old crowd will be replaced with a live audience. I'm curious as to how retailers will react to this. Weren't they stuck with a bunch of huge boxes for the instruments when this genre fell off?
Personally I don't want Activision anywhere near the revival, they were going to shit up Guitar Hero 7 pretty badly apparently: http://theherofeed.com/5728/screenshot-from-scrapped-guitar-hero-7-surfaces-on-twitter/
 

seady

Member
I don't like Harmonix's name being aligned with the genre's market oversaturation.

Activision released 10 games between Guitar Hero: On Tour Aerosmith’s June 22, 2008 release and the launch of Guitar Hero: Van Halen on December 22, 2009 alone. That's about one game every other month.

Rock Band sold like, what, 8 non-mobile games between November 2007 and August 2012?

While I hated Activision and EA for saturating the market with these music games, I couldn't help but feel if they hadn't milk Guitar Hero / Rock Band, the genre would still be going downhill anyway.

At least now we think back we still remember the music genre had an era where it was so popular it saturated the market. It left a mark in our memories.

Had Activision or EA not done so (saturate the market), the music genre would probably still stuck in the little niche corner.
 

Imbarkus

As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
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Pink Floyd: Rock Band

No other band has the imagery (Flying Pigs!), the themes, the library, even whole songs with full animations (Marching Hammers!) ready to get the deluxe treatment. We need the dark flip side to The Beatles: Rock Band.

They just put out an album, too. Believe.
 
Personally I don't want Activision anywhere near the revival, they were going to shit up Guitar Hero 7 pretty badly apparently: http://theherofeed.com/5728/screenshot-from-scrapped-guitar-hero-7-surfaces-on-twitter/

The new one is rumored to be developed by Freestyle Games. They've only made three games, the two DJ Hero titles and Sing Party. SP came out in 2012 and we haven't heard of them since. So their history lines up pretty neatly to be making something like a GH reboot. Since they canned GH7, that may have been them realizing that the microtransaction focus was a bad idea.
 
Is there anybody that really wants this to happen? The genre went down for a reason. I don't even think the generation that liked these games wants them back. Do they?

I think there is a hardcore niche audience that would be interested, the problem is reconciling hardcore niche audience with game that requires the mass production of various plastic instruments. I don't see how those two things potentially go together.
 
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