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Angry Joe The Order 1886 Review.
- Thread starter Crossing Eden
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John Bender
Banned
The engine
Seems consistent with what other reviewers think.
Yet you come into a Thread about AngryJoe ?
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Except you feel that way anyway because the normal lycans encounters are all exactly the same, crapped space, two or three lycans, everytime. As well as the
two elder lycan boss fights.
The fact that we spend 95% of the combat fighting humans despite this being the premise, AND
the fact that there is absolutely zero variety in the lycan encounters despite there being so few
Yes, it's like one of those self-torture things. Like when you hate people who take selfies, but find yourself looking at the pictures just so you can get mad. Gotta fuel the hate.
You must not be the sharpest pen in the drawer then, coming in a thread that has "angry joe" in the title e: or just masochist, i suppose
Good review, from all the stuff I've watched and read, sounds like this is how I'd feel about it too
mickcenary
Member
Hmm. Seems like a completely fair review. For people who aren't enamored with the seemingly niche title that TO1886 is, it sure does come across as a borderline shitty game.
Regardless of whether you categorise its critical reception as "whipping boy" status or not, the reviews on the whole seem completely just.
Regardless of whether you categorise its critical reception as "whipping boy" status or not, the reviews on the whole seem completely just.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
O.O ....Wow, I wish other people who did the same were this honest about it.
This was a lot better than his Evolve review.
Also, I really like his long review format. Gives me something to watch. Joe is entertaining.
It's super pretty, and the shooting feels good (once you turn the fuck awful aim assist off). If they find the world interesting, I can understand how some people could really like it.
Also, I really like his long review format. Gives me something to watch. Joe is entertaining.
It's super pretty, and the shooting feels good (once you turn the fuck awful aim assist off). If they find the world interesting, I can understand how some people could really like it.
I'm on the bus right now so I can't watch, but alright I guess. 4/10 is when my mind wanders to shit like Sonic 06.
That's a messed up scale then, since Sonic 06 should be a 1/10.
Yeah this game went from D1 (when they first announced it) to maybe later down the line (when they showed the mundane gameplay) to rental/used right before the reviews came out... to don't even bother, after seeing a couple of streams and video reviews.
Kind of sad, since the setting is cool, but at least we got Bloodborne, scratching that itch.
Also AC victory, if by any chance it turns out to be good, you never know (lol).
Kind of sad, since the setting is cool, but at least we got Bloodborne, scratching that itch.
Also AC victory, if by any chance it turns out to be good, you never know (lol).
Can Crusher
Banned
Ryse is every bit as shit as The Order. The sp is repetitive boring trash. "Fun story", "replay value" lol.
Yeah at least it had MP for the twelve dozen people who cared.
But I've played indie games worse than Sonic 06. That game at least had an ending. And functioned, kind of.
Pretty sure this will be part of his Most Disappointing Games Of 2015 list.
Check my reply above
No point trying to hide it.
More to the point...i really enjoyed The Order 1886, and i think most of the negative reviews are a bit harsh. The ending was also fine, imo. Now let's have a sequel!
Have a guess?
Yep. Games that barely function on a technical level is where I'd assign a 1/10 and sonic 06 is barely functional for sure.
How come they couldn't even do something at least on par with the first Gears of Wars gameplay wise in 2015 ? The AI of enemies (Lycans, WTF ?) and partners were hilarious, and many QTEs made NO sense at all, seriously.
We can argue about the film grain or black bar, but beside that the review is pretty fair and honestly embarrassing for the developper.
We can argue about the film grain or black bar, but beside that the review is pretty fair and honestly embarrassing for the developper.
That's how I see this game. Great graphics and atmosphere, with a good story that gets ruined by the short game play and crazy amount of QTE's and cutscenes. It's a average game that has something going for it. I just hope they sort out the flaws if they make another one.
Gen.Grievous
Member
There is a review thread for this stuff. Don't see why his review deserves it's own thread.
He does not pull any punches though, got to give him credit for that.
He does not pull any punches though, got to give him credit for that.
I think its locked
thesolidshark
Member
This is almost as good as his Destiny review; really informative and entertaining. Didn't watch any full YT playthroughs, but some of the big negative points in the Order really come to light with Joe's analysis. That lycan AI pattern...man. His score seems justified. The main thing I agree with the reviews, including Joe's, is the recommendation of renting or buying at reduced price.
What? It had an ass load of glitches and bugs. Its the reason I never finished it, that and the game sucked away so why bother. Sonic '06 is a 1/10 game.
Gen.Grievous
Member
Well I guess that's not a suprise.
You didn't enjoy it? The combat was fine. It had good difficulty too and it has its hype moments.
Early on Ryse multiplayer was very popular. Almost everyone I came across would play it for a bit to wind down. The update including some great score challenges too, which were actually kinda difficult haha.
I wish I could review The Order myself. I'd point out AI patterns a bunch.
Honestly if the game would be like 2/10 if it didn't look pretty, 4/10 is generous.
The fact that you can't get rid of cutscenes, and what it seems to be is no unlockable difficulty, means that replay value is tarnished. Unless you want to experience the same cutscenes over and over.
Game length never bothers me really. I like short games. I try not to factor in price when it comes to my opinion for games, but it really looks like there if nothing here that they wanted to make fun though gameplay at all.
I'm tempted to rent this game because I'm intrigued though. Actually yeah, I'll do that.
I also have to say I actually enjoyed the stealth section but then I probably also played it differently from how most others played it. I didn't use the crossbow at all and always snuck up to the guards and finished them off with the melee stealth kill.
This whole attitude that every game has to reinvent the wheel is also very annoying. I don't give a shit whether a game is innovative or not so long as it's enjoyable. I mean, I don't think the Uncharted series has a single innovative bone in its body (from a design-perspective. It obviously does from a technical perspective) and it's still awesome. That being said, while I am defending The Order here, I by no means think that the game is perfect. I do think that it has quite a few flaws and that there's a lot of room for improvement but I did enjoy the overall game and think that, ultimately, the good outweighs the bad.
EDIT: Oh and I listened to all the audio logs and enjoyed them. Just as I enjoyed reading all the newspaper articles. Some of them may not have had direct connections to the plot but all of them were well-written (apart from the occasional typo) and interesting.
I never said I liked how they handled the lycan encounters. I said that adding even more of them, like he's suggesting here, would've been a really fucking horrible idea.
This whole attitude that every game has to reinvent the wheel is also very annoying. I don't give a shit whether a game is innovative or not so long as it's enjoyable. I mean, I don't think the Uncharted series has a single innovative bone in its body (from a design-perspective. It obviously does from a technical perspective) and it's still awesome. That being said, while I am defending The Order here, I by no means think that the game is perfect. I do think that it has quite a few flaws and that there's a lot of room for improvement but I did enjoy the overall game and think that, ultimately, the good outweighs the bad.
EDIT: Oh and I listened to all the audio logs and enjoyed them. Just as I enjoyed reading all the newspaper articles. Some of them may not have had direct connections to the plot but all of them were well-written (apart from the occasional typo
) and interesting.I never said I liked how they handled the lycan encounters. I said that adding even more of them, like he's suggesting here, would've been a really fucking horrible idea.
Majukun
Member
Too much resources and times devolved to graphics
Having an ending and being functional should not get a 4/10. That is, like, bog standard requirement. And 06 would barely classify as functional to begin with.
This looks even worse than the reviews described. I can't say it's soulless because the art team put in a ton of fucking effort. That said, some of the programmers and more importantly the creative director and lead programmer had no fucking clue how to make an interesting game within the limited constraints of pushing graphics this hard.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
It's not even an attitude that every game has to reinvent the wheel. However, when a game has a premise that could it's extremely disappointing to see it squandered with the most by the numbers possible gameplay. My standards for games, especially next gen only new IPs are much higher than they were in 2007 when the first Uncharted came out. Also, making the player fight rebels in a game where the premise is "Knights of the round table during the industrial revolution fighting lycans using weapons made by nikola tesla" is also a really horrible idea. It's an incredibly odd design decision that the lycans have one AI tactic. These are supposed to be the enemies that terrorized humanity for centuries. They should've been a shit ton more intelligent and menacing.
Yeah, seems like they tried something similar to the stalkers from Dead Space but did the whole thing in bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf-gA8tLM1A
died at dickbutt
(credit to TheDutchSlayer)
fuckin dead
No he couldn't. Certain things needed to be shown off for an extended sequence. If you want short reviews that obscure how great or terrible a product is watch every other review out there that is 8 minutes max.
I've only played about 3/4ths of the game the weekend before last, and I assumed that the Lycan stuff would be stacked towards the end of the game given how much was made of that angle in preview coverage, but hearing that you just fight the exact same encounter again and that Lycans are never a significant enemy type...
Yikes. Disappointing.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
How did the idea of a final boss being a carbon copy of an earlier encounter and is also a QTE-fest passed quality control?
Diablohead
Member
this part made me loldied at dickbutt
(credit to TheDutchSlayer)
Fine then, AC Unity. Same shit.
Point is anything below a 5/10 is when you get into shit that just doesn't function like it should. The Order's really just average at worst, though I personally found it to be exceptional.
Lol, that's not how quality control works.
Haunted
Member
dat lamp tho
It doesn't make any sense to evaluate Joe's score by your personal scale or the scale of other outlets. 4/10 seems to be below average on Joe's scale and the review text does reflect that. He never implies that the game is broken or anything, even if that's what you personally seem to associate with a 4/10.