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Code Name: S.T.E.A.M | Review Thread
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publicpwnerer
Member
I tried the demo. Funnily enough, the aesthetic initially put me off...but its gorgeous and stylish on the actual 3DS. The grid real-time movement is great, but the game seemingly lacks depth. I suppose I crave more open strategy (levels are too cramped), akin to advanced wars, or some rpg / stats / items like Fire Emblem.
Toronto Sun 4.5/5
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/11/code-name-steam-review-game-a-breath-of-fresh-air
Shacknews 8/10
http://www.shacknews.com/article/88534/code-name-steam-review-full-steam-ahead
Reviews seem mixed overall
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/11/code-name-steam-review-game-a-breath-of-fresh-air
Shacknews 8/10
http://www.shacknews.com/article/88534/code-name-steam-review-full-steam-ahead
Reviews seem mixed overall
I think we're passed mixed and into "generally positive"
C.Olimar788
Member
The impression I got was that it has a bit of a steep curve in the beginning, which lines up with my personal experience with the demo, where I managed to die on one mission because I couldn't figure out how to get past the enemy's overwatch.
A Link to the Past
Banned
I was too :v I'm just saying that I think RH should count as a new IP on the DS, in so far as it was the first game in the series that could have received universal acclaim.
Deified Data
Banned
A lot of the issues people are taking with the game's characters could just as easily be applied to Valkyria Chronicles or FE: Awakening.
The only issues I see mentioned that actually bother me are no map and unskippable enemy turns.
The only issues I see mentioned that actually bother me are no map and unskippable enemy turns.
A Link to the Past
Banned
With fairness to Awakening, can John Henry and Henry Fleming get married? Would Fleming be named Henry Henry?
StarStabbedMoon
Member
So is Gamestop trying to be the hardass of the review scores world now that Eurogamer got rid of scores?
A Link to the Past
Banned
From the sounds of the review, Walker simply had nothing about it that he liked. That's fair.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Wait turn based is now something bad?
D'oh, you're right. You mentioned last and I completely spaced that aspect of it.
Orniletter
Banned
That Gamespot review is pretty weird.
Most of his combat/ gameplay complaints sound like he tried to work agaist the mechanics or exploit them and is frustrated that the game didn't let him .
...and the other half of the review is him ....kinda.... complaining that Codename Steam isn't like other games he likes.
(aside from some valid sounding stuff)
Eh, whatever.
Most of his combat/ gameplay complaints sound like he tried to work agaist the mechanics or exploit them and is frustrated that the game didn't let him .
...and the other half of the review is him ....kinda.... complaining that Codename Steam isn't like other games he likes.
(aside from some valid sounding stuff)
Eh, whatever.
James Scott
Banned
No, but the "waiting for the enemy's turn" bit is.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Saint Gregory
Member
It's all a matter of tastes and right GS doesn't seem to have many reviewers, if any, that enjoy Nintendo's games. There's nothing really crazy about that.
Based on playing the demo I"m really surprised that no option to FF through the enemy turn was included in the final game. There are times where you couldn't even see the enemy so you're just sitting there watching your character idling.
Incitemaybe
Member
Hmm, looks like I'll probably get this eventually, I have been enjoying the demo and none of the bad reviews touched on anything that mattered to me.
TC McQueen
Member
It can be, depending on the execution. It doesn't help that a lot of games with turn based combat stick to pre-2000s UIs, mechanics, and camera dynamism (or lack thereof), plus Japanese games with turn based battles tend to have super long battles, sometimes going over an hour per battle. Those sorts of things can make turn based games feel a lot less exciting and engrossing than real time games.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
Well, Gamestop hated so I'm pretty sure I'll love it.
But it's going to bomb here too.
Because not sending them review copies would be kinda scummy?
This quote from the NWR Review has me worried
I like taking my time with strategy games and being meticulous. I noticed in the demo that one of the levels kept endlessly spawning enemies behind me and it super stressed me out, forcing me to play a style that I wasn't comfortable with. If the rest of the game insists on doing the same, then I dunno what to think about this game anymore
I like taking my time with strategy games and being meticulous. I noticed in the demo that one of the levels kept endlessly spawning enemies behind me and it super stressed me out, forcing me to play a style that I wasn't comfortable with. If the rest of the game insists on doing the same, then I dunno what to think about this game anymore
If you take too many turns the game will spawn reinforcements. This isn't a game that requires you to take 10-15 turns to complete a stage. Playing that slow isn't beneficial. Collect the cogs, if you choose to, and make your way to the goal. Don't try to kill all enemies. Just complete the mission.
chrominance
Member
Oh no, I can't cancel outright because the order also has Story of Seasons in it and I still want that. Also the whole order has a discount on it and I'm in Canada do even without that discount it's cheaper because prices have gone up and basically bleh buying video games in Canada is kind of crappy right now.
Anyways, worst case scenario is I can't return the game and I'm out $25 for a game I don't like, sucks but not the end of the world. I knew the risks when I placed my order.
WrenchNinja
Member
Because they are a major review site. They gave Majora's Mask 3D a 9.
Sometimes a reviewer will not like a game much. It happens.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
If I apply the Kid Icarus rule to this, it'll probably be fantastic.
That's going to trip some people up I think. Playing the mission not the map. We're playing from the point of view we are for a reason.
It's not a lukewarm response. Majority of the reviews are positive and a few are average. There is only one bad score and like so many gamespot reviews of Nintendo games it's questionable too.
Yeah, his complaints seem weird:
So for this complaint, he's complaining that his character can miss because he can't setup his shot correctly and mistimes his shot. This possibility is fairly unique to CNS because of the semi-realtime element and need to actually aim at your target. I guess he's upset that it doesn't have traditional lock-on aiming of other TBS games.
I guess I'll have to play it for myself to confirm, but I find this extremely hard to believe that this isn't user error. When using an AOE healing effect with one of your characters, the targeted characters clearly highlight prior to executing the ability.
That's true for the most part so it's something you need to consider when approaching enemies. I guess this bothers him because he likes to play aggressively?
Again, this is a purposeful design decision. You need to take care with your decisions because you don't always know what's ahead. You can scout ahead with your characters and move them back to restore their steam so you don't waste their turn.
The review just reads like the guy was expecting the game to play more like Xcom and less like... well... Codename: S.T.E.A.M.
Dénouement
Banned
Tried the demo, and was just completely turned off by the art style and just the whole theme/direction of the game. The gameplay didn't win me over either.
Not surprised by the reviews though. Was expecting mostly mixed with a lean towards the positive end.
Not surprised by the reviews though. Was expecting mostly mixed with a lean towards the positive end.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
But here's where this is a dumb move: If i can't see what's happening anyway why not offer me an option to either skip past the enemy's turn or speed through it? Or actually provide a map that displays the changes so i have something to look at and plan for?
Having you wait so long and then scout out what has happened doesn't seem smart, it seems exhausting.
Orniletter
Banned
Very good points, I agree with everything you said.
For starters, you can see *some* enemy movement (so long as your characters can see it). I agree that you should have an option to fast-forward the enemy movement although I would advise against skipping it altogether as you may see part of the enemy's move but then they may move out of sight by the end of their move.
I guess I'm so used to playing TBS games/Civ games/board games that the wait doesn't seem bad to me.
hurricanes
Member
FEA got almost universially acclaim review and I hate it. So I am not sure... Can anyone tell me how the "long enemy turns" compare to PoR's enemy turn?
30-40 seconds. You can download the demo but I'm going to tell you right now. You (specifically) are probably going to hate it.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
Expectations are different on a portable platform, though. People want to pick up and play, not wait around because of a bad design decision. the hope would be that they fix this in an update but i don't know how nintendo has been handling updates these days.
DragonGirl
Member
What a lot of people seem to be missing in their complaints about waiting for the enemy's turn is the overwatch mechanic. You can attack enemies that move in line of sight and bait them into firing range (so long as you have enough leftover steam). This is pretty important to your tactical planning. Basically, you can't skip the enemy turn because auto attacking them when they move is kinda a big deal.
Cizeta-Moroder
Banned
Divisive as expected. Sooo... safe to buy if I liked the demo?
Agreed. I found it useful some of the time, but at least give us an option to speed past the impossible to see aliens. Its just the courtesy of an option that would make the difference
Davey Cakes
Member
I was expecting consistent 7's for this. Never came off as a game that everyone will love or hate.
I didn't expect any 4/10's but whatever.
Code Name: S.T.E.A.M has never really interested me but from the sounds of it, people who enjoy the genre and don't mind the "cons" should be good to go.
I didn't expect any 4/10's but whatever.
Code Name: S.T.E.A.M has never really interested me but from the sounds of it, people who enjoy the genre and don't mind the "cons" should be good to go.
MushroomSamba
Member
Conflicting feelings:
PRO:
- SRPG is one of my favorite gaming genres.
- IS is my fave developer in said genre.
- loved Valkyria Chronicles' gameplay and was hoping to see more SRPGs adopt that style.
CON:
- Art design looks ugly, blotchy, and in some cases, bland.
- Potentially awesome steampunk atmosphere looks poorly executed.
...will probably check it out regardless. Probably will wait for a price drop...I've got enough stuff on the backlog. The middling reviews don't exactly make me interested in buying now either.
PRO:
- SRPG is one of my favorite gaming genres.
- IS is my fave developer in said genre.
- loved Valkyria Chronicles' gameplay and was hoping to see more SRPGs adopt that style.
CON:
- Art design looks ugly, blotchy, and in some cases, bland.
- Potentially awesome steampunk atmosphere looks poorly executed.
...will probably check it out regardless. Probably will wait for a price drop...I've got enough stuff on the backlog. The middling reviews don't exactly make me interested in buying now either.
The general consensus is "Yes". I, for instance, already own the game because my Amazon pre-order came in today for whatever reason. (I bet they did it because they completely screwed up my MM3D order last time.)