Sounds that way to me too. Excellent.
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GTA V PS4/XONE Downgrade - Version 1.00 Vs 1.08 Comparison [edit: BUG]
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Sounds that way to me too. Excellent.
Seems like a valid complaint to me when his games are being downgraded. Glad to see this is a bug, though.
But laptop CPU's......
An unintentional downgrade is also known as a graphical bug. It sucks, but it's not a malicious, deceptive "bait and switch" like some people are making it out to be.
LordOcidax
Member
Looks like a patch is released (PS4). Downloading now.
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Yes. Wonder if they were able to really flick the effects back on that easy. Can't see the patch notes yet.
Yeah. It grinds my gears how people are very quick to jump to conclusions on this. We know that the "non-swaying trees" was a bug, and it was fixed.
Now this happens and we have a bunch of PC gamers instantly claiming consoles are "trash", and that the game was obviously downgraded because their hardwares are weak, and the usual "glad I waited for the PC version".
GAF can descend to Youtube-quality comments sometimes....
LordOcidax
Member
I take a few screenshots to compare.
It's already been covered in the thread. The patch seems to fix vehicle deformation but stuff like parallax mapping is still missing. It's just a coincidence that a new patch hit this morning, it's just not possible that they would have already been able to patch stuff related to graphics issues that are just getting attention today.
I think thats every patch to date combined.
ReDelicious
Member
Let us know if they fixed the vehicle deformation please. This bothers me way more than the other stuff. I'd check myself but will be unable to do so for a while.
Edit: Nevermind seen others confirm.
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Missed that, thanks
LordOcidax
Member
Ohh. Ok. Thanx.
ConradCervantes
Banned
Goddammit, Rockstar. Staring at the train tracks in first person was my favorite thing to do in GTA V.
Daffy Duck
Member
I've read the way patches work on ps4 is to show all the updates available as the total Gb to download, if you are up to date you only DL the latest small amount of whatever size that patch is.
So as an example in this case the 4.75gb is all the updates but only 750mb of that maybe the patch you need, so you DL 750mb
DannyDanger
Member
all the other stuff i wouldnt of cared
but reducing the car damage kind of sucks (Edit : wait i'm hearing this is fixed ? now i really dont give a damn about the "downgrade")
Either way its no big deal to me
Only downgrade that really turned me off completely to a game so far has been watch dogs
but reducing the car damage kind of sucks (Edit : wait i'm hearing this is fixed ? now i really dont give a damn about the "downgrade")
Either way its no big deal to me
Only downgrade that really turned me off completely to a game so far has been watch dogs
keltickennedy
Member
The game is freaking massive. Sometimes adding some new features or changing the littlest of things and cause something else to become disrupted.
Also, they must of not tested "staring at train tracks" before releasing the update.
Yeah, I'm not seeing evidence of a AF change but its a blurry YT video.
I compared a few sections side by side where he runs back and forth and just can't see it. The video then jumps to a zoomed in still shot comparison but it just looks closer. I compared the beach and aside from the missing POM the AF looks the same.
Anyway, seems more like some bugs. I expect POM to return
It's exactly the same, I don't see a reduction in AF.
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And if you somehow manage to spot a difference, it's because the 1.08 shot is further back than the 1.00 shot.
ginger ninja
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kinda off topic and I don't even play games that much these days, but this game has terrible pop-in on the ps4 version. Whats up with that.
keltickennedy
Member
All open world games will have some sort of pop-in. Yes, so does GTA V but I don't think it is terrible nor distracting.
Driving a car through the hills really demonstrated the pop-in problem. Grass literally grows right in front of the car as you drive.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
It's totally the console's fault that the game was changed.
Apoleptica
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Yeah, mine too. I also love staring at hedges and rocks in the game. How could Rockstar screw up this badly? Never would have expected such a thing from such a renowned video game developer.
bananafactory
Banned
Correct. The last patch I downloaded for GTA started at like 4.45 GB out of 4.65 or something right off to bat
Weird to single out the PS4 version. And it's vastly better in the current gen then it was on last gen, where objects would appear literally inches in front of your car at times, stopping you dead in your tracks, or entire buildings and pieces of the roadway would occasionally have trouble loading in when traveling at high speed.
Have you ever worked in game development?
Indeed. They have also not tested "staring at beach side" "staring at cobblestones" and "staring at ground" in general. Also, parallax occlusion mapping is better appreciated in motion due to its view dependent processing, captures and "imitates" depth not possible with normal mapping, which may look fine in a set angle but falls "flat" on its face when you move around.
You were doing fine explaining, until the last sentence.
Puppet Shadow
Member
I've been holding out for the PC version and I'm going to need a freaking guide to get through all these new side quests.
[edit: upon further reading, i might not have all the info i thought i did! Go easy on me 
also i think it's worth bearing in mind that GTAV is a port which we know is severely limited by what it was like on the last-gen versions. The near distance pop in and low HD draw distance. I dont think we can nit pick too much!]
Significantly?
Im on a phone so don't have access to videos or gifs, but from the pics and writing i can see, this sounds like a very insignificant graphical down step for a decent performance hitch.
Most of the player's time in GTA is spent driving at high speed or looking at things in the near distance (eg objective markers or enemies). To see this issue - afaict - one has to stand still and look at nearby objects closely.
More casual players certainly wont notice details like this, and surely even core players have to stand still and look closely. (Also this graphical downgrade sounds so minor that the art in the game must be 99.9% sustained.)
However, it's really dishonest and bad practice that Rstar didn't say they did this. Is it seriously not in the patch notes?! If they made it a setting, that would be ideal. Still, i'm not too fussed - a gameplay improvement is worth it for an altered detail.
also i think it's worth bearing in mind that GTAV is a port which we know is severely limited by what it was like on the last-gen versions. The near distance pop in and low HD draw distance. I dont think we can nit pick too much!]Significantly?
Im on a phone so don't have access to videos or gifs, but from the pics and writing i can see, this sounds like a very insignificant graphical down step for a decent performance hitch.
Most of the player's time in GTA is spent driving at high speed or looking at things in the near distance (eg objective markers or enemies). To see this issue - afaict - one has to stand still and look at nearby objects closely.
More casual players certainly wont notice details like this, and surely even core players have to stand still and look closely. (Also this graphical downgrade sounds so minor that the art in the game must be 99.9% sustained.)
However, it's really dishonest and bad practice that Rstar didn't say they did this. Is it seriously not in the patch notes?! If they made it a setting, that would be ideal. Still, i'm not too fussed - a gameplay improvement is worth it for an altered detail.
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Did anybody else's game settings get reset to default with this latest update?
keltickennedy
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You were doing fine until you took the last part seriously. That part is better appreciated as a joke. I apologize though, in the future I will try to make my jokes have more depth and be sure to not just imitate it. Rockstar said that they are aware of the issue and are looking into it.
Here is the post...
https://support.rockstargames.com/h...-for-Xbox-One-and-PS4-after-Title-Update-1-08
You can look at it clearly from any angle, it isn't view dependent.
bananafactory
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Haven't checked this one but I remember my settings got reset with the Heist update. Had to re-enable some options like subtitles
5 GB is the total size of all updates to date, not the most recent.
Dash Kappei
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Is there a way to download and apply patch 1.07 offline? Goddamn now I'm regretting not buying the game before :/
keltickennedy
Member
Guess I'll get to test out how the new PS4 firmware is working with the auto game updates when I get home.
TheAdmiester
Member
You're in single player, it sometimes worked offline anyway.
Don't worry, they are going to fix it
but OP says video is in single player?
I will also test in online mode to see if any different
Tainted
Member
All my settings in SP were reset to defaults after the heist update...plus Trevor's customisations (Clothes, beard, haircut) was also reset
Hope this is not a recurring theme after every update now :/
I know you were joking but it made it look like the issue is restricted to a small portion of the game and non-trivial as if something that can only be noticed while staring otherwise aimlessly.
When I said view-dependent, I meant the parallax occlusion effect takes your viewing position into account and creates the depth effect with respect to your view, whereas a simple normal map doesn't (aside from speculars being affected by your view point but that's not enough), I emphasized that to underline the importance of parallax occlusion mapping and that you don't have to stay / stare to appreciate its contribution to the scene.
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ok, here is multiplayer
test method: got out of house, grab first passing by car, go full speed, hit one immovable column.
engine bay deformed reasonably well. just like in single player
The thread has already come to the consensus that 1.09 contained a fix for the deformation, but the rest of the graphical issues in single player remain unfixed.
keltickennedy
Member
When I said "view-dependent" it was me playing with your words. As in you simply looking at the post on your computer monitor being able to read it at whatever angle. Again, I tried a joke with a little more "depth".... PUN INTENDED.
I am fully aware of what you actually talking about as 3D and game design is what I do for a living.