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What Does Sony Have For The Holidays?
- Thread starter EatMyFace
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When official Playstation accounts are tweeting images like this one, it seems pretty likely.
Then why have Halo in there?
I kid of course but you can't discount a September release for the holiday bundles.
When official Playstation accounts are tweeting images like this one, it seems pretty likely.
Jesus, didn't notice that. Good evidence for Battlefront marketing, fo' sho'.
Yea but Microsoft falls right back over in the next 9-10 months, don't you think there's a problem with that?
Also worldwide Microsoft never actually catches up lol.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
3rd party titles will take care of PS4, don't you worry.
ArkkAngel007
Member
If you're comparing it directly with Microsoft, then it's in a console war frame. Not saying you're some sort of platform warrior, just that's the pit the question sits in.
Easily could have left out the Microsoft stuff to still demonstrate that the Holiday 2015 lineup from Sony is a huge question mark, with some of the long noted titles either arriving earlier (Recently Bloodborne and The Order 1886, with Until Dawn in Summer) or having little indication of being in the picture (No Man's Sky).
And MGS5 will put a PS4 on a lot of people's Christmas list.
All they need is one solid exclusive to at least partially counter halo 5 which will hopefully be announced at E3.
But it seems like a pretty solid rhythm is starting of xbone taking the holiday season by a little bit with huge amounts of effort and ps4 taking the rest of the year by a lot with little effort.
Hopefully Microsoft is about to finally learn that development studios are far more important than IP.
Uhm....September is in the holiday season more than December (it's after Black Friday)
But it seems like a pretty solid rhythm is starting of xbone taking the holiday season by a little bit with huge amounts of effort and ps4 taking the rest of the year by a lot with little effort.
Hopefully Microsoft is about to finally learn that development studios are far more important than IP.
Uhm....September is in the holiday season more than December (it's after Black Friday)
Wait so why mention Halo
Aceofspades
Banned
Sony has bloodborne, timeless game 
SnowFlakeCake
Member
It's a shit strategy because the XB1 caught up with the PS4 in NA last winter, if only there was a mythical land far far away where Playstation kills it every year during the holiday season, possibly where the is used.
Lionel Richie
Member
Soon...
In all seriousness though, this kind of thread makes no sense before E3.
No doom and gloom here.
Is that real?When official Playstation accounts are tweeting images like this one, it seems pretty likely.
Take a look at November NPD http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-12-12-npd
You see Destiny in that Top 10? That was a huge September release and it didn't even chart in November.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
They need more than just marketing deals this Holiday season.
They have to have some exclusives.
Even if they aren't as big as Halo.
They have to have some exclusives.
Even if they aren't as big as Halo.
If you're really worried about Sony you should follow sales threads. Its looking like the "pre season" lead this year will be par/greater than last year. IMO you should think about what will happen if with all these exclusives/offers Xbox comes out with this holiday, they don't erase the sales deficit then the gap will just continue expanding.
Depends on their strategy really. They might be focusing less on market share and more on units sold and margin for all we know.
Spider_Jerusalem
Member
E3 will bring more holiday games on both sides. Sony might push Until Dawn from summer to fall, too.
They really don't. Drop the console price and bundle some games during the holidays and they are pretty set.
When official Playstation accounts are tweeting images like this one, it seems pretty likely.
Also their Instagram account
https://instagram.com/p/1jP-wAlZDC/
https://instagram.com/p/1jVVd8FZKj/
ArkkAngel007
Member
When is the next GT expected?
Anyway, people put way too much faith in exclusives. Look at what COD did for the Xbox last gen. Hell, look at this gen with where the strength of third parties has been for the majority of it. People just want to go where they'll get the best, or what they are told is the best, experience. Exclusives do have a strong factor, but aren't the final word. Forza 5 and Dead Rising 3 didn't carry the Xbox One as well as that argument would have let us believe if they did.
Anyway, people put way too much faith in exclusives. Look at what COD did for the Xbox last gen. Hell, look at this gen with where the strength of third parties has been for the majority of it. People just want to go where they'll get the best, or what they are told is the best, experience. Exclusives do have a strong factor, but aren't the final word. Forza 5 and Dead Rising 3 didn't carry the Xbox One as well as that argument would have let us believe if they did.
Sangetsu-II
Member
Possible Sony Holiday Contenders:
- Alienation
- The Tomorrow Children
- The Last Guardian
- Rime
- Dragon Quest Heroes
- Persona 5
- Unannounced game
- Alienation
- The Tomorrow Children
- The Last Guardian
- Rime
- Dragon Quest Heroes
- Persona 5
- Unannounced game
StrongBlackVine
Banned
No the lead was not completely erased. More like half. And that was only in the US. Worldwide the lead grew over the holidays.
Better question is what will Microsoft do if last year's strategy doesn't work this time.
Caffeine
Member
2016
That's a lot of proof right there. I think its pretty safe to say Sony probably has the Battlefront marketing.
I'm talking about the US here where Sony can easily lose their lead.
Halo 5 releases October 27th. It's practically a holiday game.
XB1 is extremely relevant to my thread and I don't see why I can't compare it to PS4 without this being a console war thread.
Soon...
In all seriousness though, this kind of thread makes no sense before E3.
I absolutely do not believe that TLG is going to be at this E3, but it IS on the way, and I think that when it is reannounced it will be done surprisingly close to the release date.
funkystudent
Member
Depends how optimistic you want to be.
Holiday 2016 at the earliest if its the same gap as between GT5 and 6.
Holiday 2017 if you are realistic at tack on a year because of the next gen shift.
Or 2018 and beyond because its Polyphony Digital.
Actually I wouldn't be shocked if they have a Morpheus game. Like a 120fps VR enhanced port of GT6. Means PD can keep using the same assets for another generation and we all know how much they love doing that.
bananafactory
Banned
Knack 2: Knack in Black
Announced at E3, December 2015 release
Announced at E3, December 2015 release
wapplew
Member
Since we knew Sony put a lot of games in the summer yesterday, its save to assume they have something in the sleeve or else they just push those game to fill the holiday gap.
Maybe Sony strategy are letting 3rd party shine in the holiday and they fill empty pre-season themselves so that gamer got new games to play all year.
Maybe Sony strategy are letting 3rd party shine in the holiday and they fill empty pre-season themselves so that gamer got new games to play all year.
ShooterMcGavin
Member
3rd party titles. Give me Fallout 4 and you can keep all the exclusives.
No, unless it's a Prologue.
Maybe they'll do that, didn't GT5 Prologue sell really well?
EmptySpace
Banned
incredibly slow? out of 6 gt games, only 1 game took a long time to develop.
Megatron
Member
Apart from Microsoft winning their only two npd months since December 2013....
It did over 5 million copies. I'd be in for a GT7 Prologue.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
That was because of. the insane deals, not the games. The exclusives didn't sell that much.
But it didn't really effect much in the big picture. This year could be different though, MS could slash prices even more. Not WW of course.
ArkkAngel007
Member
Oh yeah, there's a possibility of marketing exclusivity on The Division.
And while as likely as between a Bethesda game coming out this year to seeing The Last Guardian by TGS this year, there's also Kingdom Hearts 3 out there in the wings.
Have never touched a GT title, but I thought I saw something about them saying no prologue this time.
And while as likely as between a Bethesda game coming out this year to seeing The Last Guardian by TGS this year, there's also Kingdom Hearts 3 out there in the wings.
Have never touched a GT title, but I thought I saw something about them saying no prologue this time.
They don't really need exclusives to be honest especially if they have Battlefront marketing.
I thought Microsoft already had it?
I thought Microsoft already had it?
So last holiday:
Sony had it's lead cut from ~1000K to ~500K over November/December (US numbers obviously).
This was achieved by its main competitor retailing at anything up to an effective $175 value discount (price cut + store vouchers), whereas Sony didn't drop unit price, they bundled software.
March NPD has - according to a creamy sweet gentleman - seen PS4 outsell the combined total of WiiU and Xbone. The gap at February was up to ~680K, so it could now be up to anything between 700-800K.
In Q1CY, and without a price drop.
TLR - in 3 months of what isn't a 'peak sales' period, PS4 has made back up to 60% of the market lead it lost in 2 months over the peak sale holiday period against an aggressively discounting competitor. There are another 6 months of 'preseason' including the release of Batman and MGSV which PS4 is lead platform for co-marketing on.
Yup, no having any pre-E3 announced big exclusives and possible co-marketing/lead platform deal with one of the biggest IPs around is going to lead to a bumpy rest of the year for Sony.
Sony had it's lead cut from ~1000K to ~500K over November/December (US numbers obviously).
This was achieved by its main competitor retailing at anything up to an effective $175 value discount (price cut + store vouchers), whereas Sony didn't drop unit price, they bundled software.
March NPD has - according to a creamy sweet gentleman - seen PS4 outsell the combined total of WiiU and Xbone. The gap at February was up to ~680K, so it could now be up to anything between 700-800K.
In Q1CY, and without a price drop.
TL
R - in 3 months of what isn't a 'peak sales' period, PS4 has made back up to 60% of the market lead it lost in 2 months over the peak sale holiday period against an aggressively discounting competitor. There are another 6 months of 'preseason' including the release of Batman and MGSV which PS4 is lead platform for co-marketing on. Yup, no having any pre-E3 announced big exclusives and possible co-marketing/lead platform deal with one of the biggest IPs around is going to lead to a bumpy rest of the year for Sony.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
After everything Microsoft threw at Sony during the 2014 holiday, only to barely beat them, you really have to wonder what Microsoft will have to do this coming holiday?
Sony's going to have more than just a remaster this time.
Sony's going to have more than just a remaster this time.