$100k is a little money to you?Why would you do it for such little money? Is there goal to be the next YouTube celebrity? Doesn't seem worth it to me. Also, are they paying taxes on it? Because if not the irs will fuck them.
Yea but if that streamer lived in low cost of living state he'd easily "beat" that 24 he old hireDude, check my other posts. With my student loans it's been tough where I live. I'm in a Chicago suburb where there are guys driving cars that cost $100K. Some parts of the country, money doesn't go very far.
The bolded is absurd. No skills?
1. Running his own website
2. Running social media sites
3. Running a youtube channel
4. Comfortable talking with sponsors
5. Knowledge and experience dealing with streaming hardware & software
6. Proof of years long work dedicated to making a living for himself
7. Ability to talk in front of a camera comfortably
8. Experience dealing with a fan base
These are all skills that could net you a job outside of streaming himself, and doing this all on your own shows an ability to be self motivated. Seriously how in the world can you even begin to say this guy or people like him would walk away from these things with nothing. As if they are 30+ year old HS grads with nothing to there name.
Lirik has 10k subscribers. If that subscriber payout is the same for him as it is this guy, then he makes 20k/month on subscribers alone.
Dude, check my other posts. With my student loans it's been tough where I live. I'm in a Chicago suburb where there are guys driving cars that cost $100K. Some parts of the country, money doesn't go very far.
Paypal now reports everything.elaborate if you can because I'm ignorant, I know some people who were sneaker heads and made hella bank like this but I never remember anything about taxes lol
That's the point. If it really requires that much work and the chances of having a long term career are that low then it's time to abandon ship and get on with your life. Playing video games for a life long career is not a smart idea.
Yes, I know you will mention some guy on twitch or some guy who just won some big competive game thing, but those are the far and few between.
I really worry about the guy who is early in his life and has a choice of having a career or doing twitch for a living and then 5-10 years pass and they have zero skills to show for it. Even the big youtube stars probably don't earn enough to substain a life if they don't save smart now.
Gaming is a hobby not a career.
This isn't entertainment. This is a guy playing video games and commenting about it.
I would have to make concessions to get by on $70k. $100k isn't the "you are wealthy" number it used to be in the 90s.
Lirik has 10k subscribers. If that subscriber payout is the same for him as it is this guy, then he makes 20k/month on subscribers alone.
Holy shit, 10k?!
Are you shitting me?A single person making $100,000 is in the top 5% of Americans. It's wealthy. Yes, maybe you're living in a high cost area, but that's what a salary higher than 95% of Americans gets you.
Are you shitting me?
A single person making $100,000 is in the top 5% of Americans. It's wealthy. Yes, maybe you're living in a high cost area, but that's what a salary higher than 95% of Americans gets you.
That seems kinda unfair...and he says the split with Twitch is $3/$2
Do you have any links to back this up or are these tales from your ass?It's all public information, based on tax returns. Yes the vast vast majority of Americans make far less than $100k.
Whut?
Care to post a source or citation for that number?
That back of the envelope math.
You must be on the north side burbs, heh.
Do you have any links to back this up or are these tales from your ass?
Do you have any links to back this up or are these tales from your ass?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ousehold_Income_in_the_United_States_2012.png
it's more like top 25% make 100k+, if i'm reading that correctly.
You are, but that is household income. In other words, two people in a household make over $100k. I was talking about personal income.
The median household income in the USA is something like $50k. I'm not sure people, especially college educated and relatively affluent people, understand how little money most Americans make.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_income_in_the_United_States#Income_distribution
Look at the last row. $100,000 or more puts you above 93.39% of Americans.
U.S. real (inflation adjusted) median household income was $51,939 in 2013 versus $51,759 in 2012, essentially unchanged. However, it has trended down since 2007, falling 8% from the pre-recession peak of $56,436. It remains below the 1999 record of $56,895. Household income is affected by a variety of factors, such as population aging and household composition
Per month
1k ad revenue
5k subscriber revenue
1.5-6k donations
It aint chump change for playing videogames.
Holy shit, 10k?!
Personal income equals household income now?
Umm... no? I never said they were the same either. I think I was pretty clear in that I was talking about personal income.
At this stage if you are a new streamer you have no chance. Big streamers already suck up majority of viewers.
That seems kinda unfair...
Lirik has 10k subscribers. If that subscriber payout is the same for him as it is this guy, then he makes 20k/month on subscribers alone.
Yeah that's shit money. Be lucky to clear $70k
Yeah. People bitch about streamers, but these people earn more money than 3-4 of us combined monthly. It's a combination of kids that pay them and the momentary change in the entertainment business. People that never learned these things can easily entertain people on the internet. It's easy as setting up OBS, creating a twitch account and to start streaming. Of course... there are many other things in the background that have to be handled by the big streamers, but you get the gist.
It's the reason why I am streaming too, although I have a normal job. I build up a community, but I am also pushing other sites (I also got a very big hookah review site on youtube: ShishaForU 12.000 subs etc.) so that I can profit from this gold mine right now.
People that just hate give us more money so I don't mind all the hate against entertainer.
People who think a single person making $70k a year is barely getting by either have expensive tastes or live in high cost of living areas because a person making $70k a year is going to live pretty well in most places in the US.
For playing video games from the comfort of your home, tho?
No commutes. No buying business attire. Not relying on the health of a company or economy as much as a regular worker?
And he learning tons of transferable skills, much more than a normal employee in a cube farm.
Selling and marketing alone are high in demand skills.
Also he seems to love what he's doing. Not many people can say that.
And? Even after that they are still making more money than the average american who has those very same things to pay which includes other self-employed.There are a lot of things to take into account - taxes, health insurance, etc. I doubt the 70k goes straight into their pocket.
Wow! Why do so many people watch him? I watched his stream briefly for Killing Floor 2 and it didn't seem like anything special or particularly interesting to me.
People who think a single person making $70k a year is barely getting by either have expensive tastes or live in high cost of living areas because a person making $70k a year is going to live pretty well in most places in the US. Hell a massive percent of Americans WISH they made $70k a year not to mention its $70k a year doing something they enjoy at that!
I sort of wonder how big the middle class of Twitch streamers is. Like, how many people are making $60-80k with donations and everything vs those that make half a million or very little at all.
Hope a lot of these people are saving since most of their income comes from tips which can always change with the wind. Going to be interesting to see where Twitch is 5-10 yrs. I could see it going away or getting bigger.
For playing video games from the comfort of your home, tho?
No commutes. No buying business attire. Not relying on the health of a company or economy as much as a regular worker?
And he learning tons of transferable skills, much more than a normal employee in a cube farm.
Selling and marketing alone are high in demand skills.
Also he seems to love what he's doing. Not many people can say that.
...but once you have a few degrees and a couple professional certifications there are better options to transition into your mid-endgame career.